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1st Test: Australia v Sri Lanka at Hobart Dec 14-18, 2012

Earl

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You know what the common sense thing to do is before claiming someone is the next superstar of the game and will score 10,000 ples runs?

Sit back and let him prove himself. You set yourself up for so much shit BM you deserve all the crap you get
 

jargan83

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I'd like to see Phil Hughes do the job and score runs for Australia and he has obviously been working on his game but as other posters have highlighted Ponting was going alright in Shield Cricket this season an was exposed badly against a quality bowling attack.

The biggest fear would be Phil Hughes killing it against a bunny Sri Lankan bowling attack and being exposed against a quality attack that Australia will probably come up against in England, if not in India

Personally I think Khawaja will be the long term option at 3 and Phil Hughes will eventually open again.

Bunniesman I can see why you cop so much shit on this forum
 

BunniesMan

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Here we go, the people biased for Khawaja and against Hughes are already making excuses. So either he fails and he sucks or he makes runs and it doesn't count.

People in this camp continuously make excuses against Hughes and for Khawaja.

Hughes failed too much at test level. Nevermind that Khawaja has a lower average and has never hit a century.

Hughes isn't doing enough at first class level. Nevermind that again, Khawaja has scores less at a lower average.

Hughes has done better than Khawaja EVERY step of the way. Khawaja has his own technical issues to deal with. But that doesn't matter. Khawaja is better, despite there not being any sort of statistical proof to back that up.
 

Horrie Is God

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Here we go, the people biased for Khawaja and against Hughes are already making excuses. So either he fails and he sucks or he makes runs and it doesn't count.

People in this camp continuously make excuses against Hughes and for Khawaja.

Hughes failed too much at test level. Nevermind that Khawaja has a lower average and has never hit a century.

Hughes isn't doing enough at first class level. Nevermind that again, Khawaja has scores less at a lower average.

Hughes has done better than Khawaja EVERY step of the way. Khawaja has his own technical issues to deal with. But that doesn't matter. Khawaja is better, despite there not being any sort of statistical proof to back that up.

You do realise that you are the only one who has mentioned Khawaja over the last few pages??..

Don't you??
 

Didgi

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Not in the context of any Hughes v Khawaja debate... the poster merely said he'd expect both to eventually have a place in the side.

If I said personally I think Doolan will be the long term option at 4 and Phil Hughes will eventually open again, would you go off about Doolan's averages and Hughes being so superior to him?
 

Horrie Is God

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Khawaja was mentioned in the post immediately precedeing my last one.

Yet you are the only one who mentioned him before that..

My point was about whether Hughes would fall back into familiar habits on his return to the test side..As was the debate we were having..

Think clearly before you post..

Also never let anger cloud your judgement..Or be afraid to admit you were wrong..

The intelligent man thinks he knows nothing..The fool thinks he knows everything..

We all hope Hughes doesn't fail again,as we all want to team to do well..
 

Hallatia

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if BM thought clearly, he wouldn't post, he would realise that he has embarrassed himself enough already and that he should get a life and a job and enter the real world for a while before he comes back and posts again
 

Red&BlackBear

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The thing is Khawaja almost single handedly saved Australia in a test match in South Africa a few years ago. Might have been the one where Cummins hit the winning runs. This season he has batted more often on green tops for good scores, his century against Tasmania in Hobart a month back was all class on a very difficult deck. Hughes has scored more runs, on more roads, against more depleted state sides i.e. vs. Victoria. If anything it proves one thing, anyone can cash in against weaker opposition on roads and lead the run scoring. Now to be consistent on all types of decks against various oppositions that is the key.

Hughes has talent, heaps of it but has tendencies to get trapped on the same manner and lose confidence quickly when pressure starts being applied. So does Khawaja but no where near the capacity that Hughes has.

And just to verify you talk out of your ass, what are Khawaja's technique problems? Because last time I checked both Mark Taylor, Ian and Greg Chappel, Bill Lawry, Alan Border, Mark Waugh and Matthew Hayden have all praised Khawaja's batting technique. All call it the best in the country. What would they know? Youve obviously played tests and scored over 5000runs... it's his fielding that was the problem. Something easier fixed then a batting technique change. He wouldn't have been made captain of the chairman's side if his fielding was below par still.

But please mate go on and wrote a thesis of how Khawaja has technique problems.

BTW I hope Hughes makes a 100 this coming test. Both deserve to be in the team. The Hughes' and Warner's to cash in against poor bowling on good batting decks and the Khawaja's and Clarke's to save our butts when the top order fails against good bowling on green tops.
 
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lockyno1

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I do feel the main issue with Khawaja is the fact he is unable to rotate the strike, and it has been the issue since day 1. He is a great talent but he needs to rotate the strike more. In test cricket you don't get bad balls every over to spank to the boundary.

Hughes for all his faults and boy he does, has this ability. It is probably why he was chosen over Khawaja (and the fact that Ussie is rubbish in the field helped)
 

Mr Angry

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Khawaja has a great future in the test side.

Am unsure why people doubt it.

If I was captain and selector

Hughes
Warner
Clarke
Khawaja
Watson
Hussey
Wade
Lefty
Spinner
Righty
Tall Seamer

With hopefully a young opener coming through so Warner can drop to 5 and bowl more leggies, when Mr Cricket pulls stumps.

I agree with those on the Clarke to three bandwagon.

Lead from the front.
 

madunit

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I do feel the main issue with Khawaja is the fact he is unable to rotate the strike, and it has been the issue since day 1. He is a great talent but he needs to rotate the strike more. In test cricket you don't get bad balls every over to spank to the boundary.
you do if you play against Australia
 

AlwaysGreen

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Not that he hasn't been proficient but Khawaja needs to score runs and runs and runs, go all Godfather on their arse and 'make em an offer they can't refuse'.

There is a spot open in the batting order. The top 3 is not settled and if either of Phillip J Fry, Mister Ed or Davey struggle then Uzi will get his chance.

Or Mitch will bat at 3.
 

Earl

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I do feel the main issue with Khawaja is the fact he is unable to rotate the strike, and it has been the issue since day 1. He is a great talent but he needs to rotate the strike more. In test cricket you don't get bad balls every over to spank to the boundary.

Hughes for all his faults and boy he does, has this ability. It is probably why he was chosen over Khawaja (and the fact that Ussie is rubbish in the field helped)

Khawaja tends to hit alot of quality shots straight to the feilders. He needs to work his placment as much as he does on turning over the strike.

Just over an hour till kick off. Lets hope the rain stays away long enough to get a start on time
 

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