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Bryce Cartwright gone

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Players leaving or being forced out, whatever reason, it is going to have a long term effect on the club. Its not how we perform in the next 10 years, its the supporter base for the future. In the last 5/6 years my children's favourite player has gone from, Gordon to Lewis, Lewis to Jennings, Jennings to Soward Soward to Segeyaro, Segeyaro to Moylan now Moylan to Cleary... How are kids supposed to build a trusting relationship with the club when the club are a bunch of deceitful, unloyal pricks.. How can they build a lifetime bond with a club if they dont have heros in the club?? I try and push my kids to support Penrith but honestly it doesnt even seem worth it the way things are going.

For the first time in years i havent bought a membership, i dont feel like wasting 5-600 dollars on an organisation that i have no faith will keep the same playing group together or maybe even one day sign a top quality player, all the angst isnt just the Cartwright release its the 10-15 guys prior.

The tactics/coach are pathetic, retention is disgusting, game day is boring, seriously what is there to look forward to.....

Very well said. Its another poor look from the club to lose another player a month out from the start of the season. He may have a very good reason for a change of scenery but I just don't buy it anymore.

No player is bigger than the club but you need long term players to give the club an identity.
I grew up watching and adoring Royce and Brandy as my favourite players and when they moved on I followed the next long term players in Carter, Girds, Gower and Wesser.
Apart from Manosur I no longer have a favourite group of players.I want too but as soon as I like a player he gets moved on.I dread our re-signings now with any contract greater than 2 years.
This place lately is turning into a halfway house where we develop our juniors for other clubs. Never mind the old line of 'we can't keep them all' We can't even keep the ones we want to keep. There is always issues.
I could go on and on but its all been said before.
To lose one or two players could be seen as unlucky but to lose the many we have lost the past few years thats a disturbing pattern bordering on incompetence.
 

hindy111

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If Panthers finish top 5 where do you rate Hook?
There are 15 other NRL coaches all trying to win games.
 

Kilkenny

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If Panthers finish top 5 where do you rate Hook?

Time will tell where we finish in 2018.

I didn't understand why we extended his contract rather than wait and see how we performed in 2018 but it has been suggested to me Hook had a clause in his original contract which allowed for an upgrade/extension if he got the team into the top 8 in his first two seasons.

If we finish top 5 this season you would have to think he has done incredibly well overall in his three years.
 

mxlegend99

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If Panthers finish top 5 where do you rate Hook?
There are 15 other NRL coaches all trying to win games.
He's average unless theres a big improvement. The roster we had the past 2 years was capable of so much more. We saw in maybe 3 or 4 games what we were capable of.

He needs to get us playing to our potential regularly. Winning the majority of the games against the teams 7th and below. And winning ATLEAST half our games against the top 6 teams. This is important... even one win against a top 4 team would be improvement. But it could be a fluke. We need to be a legitimate threat to those teams or else were no threat at all.
 

BxTom

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Goes both ways, if they just resigned and presumably for more money, why would the club be so quick to want to get rid if them.

When does a period of months trying to get Moylan to stay become "...the club be so quick to want to get rid if them"?

Tom
 

Panther Pete

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When does a period of months trying to get Moylan to stay become "...the club be so quick to want to get rid if them"?

Tom
Do you know if it was months trying to get Moylan to stay or months trying to arrange a swap with Maloney?
 

hindy111

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He's average unless theres a big improvement. The roster we had the past 2 years was capable of so much more. We saw in maybe 3 or 4 games what we were capable of.

He needs to get us playing to our potential regularly. Winning the majority of the games against the teams 7th and below. And winning ATLEAST half our games against the top 6 teams. This is important... even one win against a top 4 team would be improvement. But it could be a fluke. We need to be a legitimate threat to those teams or else were no threat at all.

Warriors had a great Roster, Raiders also. Neither made finals. And SK still has a job.
 

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https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/02/09...-left-penrith-panthers-for-gold-coast-titans/

Cartwright explains why he left Penrith for the Titans

Gold Coast Titans new signing Bryce Cartwright admits not only did he have to leave the Penrith Panthers to achieve his potential as a footballer, he would be happy never to wear the No.6 jersey again.

Shortly before fronting a big media contingent after his first training session at Parkwood on Friday morning, the 23-year-old slotted straight into a roving-style lock position during a field session and did not hide the fact that’s where he’d like his future to be.

He admitted the deal “happened quickly” last week and he had spoken with new Titans coach Garth Brennan as far back as October about a change of scenery and linking with his teenage mentor was the “driving factor” of his shock defection from the Panthers where the family name is iconic.

But getting out of the Sydney "bubble" as a young father after a year to forget in 2017 due to injury and off-field issues, and getting more minutes as a run-on forward after appearing to be relegated to an all-sorts utility player at Penrith, combined to become an irresistible enticement ... of course, along with a rich four-year deal.

“Garth and I have always kept in touch and I spoke to him in October and he mentioned it [a switch] to me and didn’t think too much about it,” Cartwright said.

“But as time went on, I thought it about it more and thought it was a great opportunity to improve as a player and get out of my comfort zone. Come up here for a fresh start with my family.

“As a player and a person I think I can really improve here. It was getting closer to the start of the season and I thought if I’m staying here I won’t get as much time on the field [as he wanted].

"If I was to improve as a player this [Gold Coast] was the best place to do it. But I am going to have to work hard to break into the team here.

“I was playing in the halves [at Penrith] and that is somewhere I don’t want to play, I feel I am better suited in the forward or on the edge.

“I prefer lock, especially with the way Brenno plays. He likes to give his lock a free rein and not restrict him to an edge; pretty much floating around the field. I trained there today and will probably have a run in the [edge] back row as well.
The biggest thing about Garth that I love is that he is really passionate about his players and his footy and is the type of coach you want to play for, and fight for, and I can’t speak highly enough of him. I played my best footy under him.”

Cartwright, who played almost every minute of Penrith’s 26 games in 2016 before struggling to make an impact in his 14 appearances at five-eighth or from the bench (eight games) last season, dismissed suggestions he had any issues with Panthers coach Anthony Griffin.

“I had a great relationship with Hook. He is a straight-up guy and really honest … he gave me a ring when all this happened and wished me the best,” he said.

And after Penrith boss Phil Gould was initially “upset” when he approached him to discuss a release, he was “fine with it”.

“He thought it was good for me to get out of Sydney and have a fresh start, he was also upset too," Cartwright said.

is the family support, Cartwright declares, that has led to him arriving at the Titans in what Brennan claims in a “good space”.

“It has been really tough but I have a good support system around me,” Cartwright said.

“I have the best mum and dad, great younger brother, and beautiful partner (Shanelle Peeti) and a son (Koa) born five weeks ago. They kept me calm; it was a tough 12 months but, in a way, it was a good experience knowing I have people around me who care about me.”

Bryce’s father David Cartwright and brothers Cliff, John (a Test forward) and Michael all played first grade for the Panthers while his grandfather Merv was the club’s first secretary and the driving force behind their admission into the top league in 1967.

Never liked playing half and wants to develop as a lock. Something a lot of fans wanted to see. He will be doing that st Titans for sure.
 

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