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09 :: R19 Sat :: Panthers 27 Raiders 14 @ CUA

Round 19 :: Panthers v Raiders


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pantherz9103

First Grade
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I agree that we were the better side. But the Raiders should have still been able to beat us with ease. They played like absolute sh*t.
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I think you are giving the raiders too much credit saying they should be able to beat us with ease. They are sh*t away from home and David Furner makes them even worse in that department than Neil Henry. Not to mention we are finally producing a decent home record.

6 home wins so far this season. Much better than the abysmal home records of 2007 and 2008. Teams with more pride in their performance typically win home games more often than not and that's certainly one good thing to come out this season.
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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While they have a shocking away record, they should have still been able to account for a side that was missing 6 of its full strength players and had several players carrying injuries that were holding them back.

The only players who actually showed up were those who had been promoted from the Toyota Cup this season. Josh Dugan was by far their best player, with Croker and Vidot looking decent also. Terry Campese was the form player of the season in 2008, and last night he was basically just a passenger. Had he played to even half of his potential it would have been a very different game last night.

We certainly played better then i expected. But we still had a lot of flaws that any side in the top 8 or fighting for a spot should have been able to exploit.
 

skeepe

Immortal
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What a f**king joke. I hope Russell Smith has booked himself into a very good optometrist, because he's clearly blind.

Three monumental f**k-ups from the video ref have cost the Raiders the match, ably assisted by the two stooges in pink on the field.

Puletua's try is no try any day of the week. He has had his momentum stopped with no opportunity to get the ball away. That is the very definition of held. Benefit of the doubt? f**k me!

There was a clear obstruction from Cooper. Whether Herbert would have got there or not simply doesn't come into it, the fact of the matter is that he was denied the opportunity. Clear obstruction, no try and penalty. Try? f**k me!

Josh Dugan never knocked on. He went past the ball which made it look like a knock on, but it clearly wasn't. You look at where his field position when he touches the ball, the immediate movement is backward of that point. Clearly a try, at worst benefit of the doubt (particularly given the farcical usage of this option early in the match). No try? f**k me!

Then there's the ridiculously unwarranted penalties. Campese, square at marker, tackles the dummy half - penalty Penrith for Raiders inside the 10? What? The players penalised didn't get anywhere near to getting involved! Josh Miller has the ball clearly stripped, dunderhead Sutton rules knock-on, Josh rightfully blows up and is penalised for backchat. What? There was far worse said than "bullsh*t" after every decision, yet now you decide to penalise it?

f**king pathetic. This is all because we have the most incompetent fool in the history of the game as referee's boss. Robert Finch is completely to blame for the sorry state of officiating today, which is far far worse than it has ever been. As the man in charge of such incompetence, Robert Finch must do the honorable thing and resign immediately. Get someone who knows what they're doing in there, someone that the Raiders didn't sack, and who knows? We might actually have a game refereed without such blatantly wrong decisions one day.

End result if the refereeing decisions had not been blatantly incorrect: Raiders 18 Panthers 15. Yet another game lost solely due to disgusting refereeing. That takes the count up to 6 this season.

Loved Vidot celebrating his second try of the night with a big f**k you to the officials.
 

skeepe

Immortal
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And this time he's 100% right.

Cheers mate. Raiders fans only need to think back to a game where Russell Smith was the head referee... Jason Smith got belted around the head and couldn't get up, Russell Smith penalised him for refusing to get up... to realise that we never get a fair go with that clown.
 

Sleep

Juniors
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I wasn't saying Skeepe was wrong. His descriptions had me laughing though. Keep up the good work.
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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He was definitely wrong about the scoreline. One of those decisions changes and the game itself changes entirely. ie. if Frank Puletua had not been awarded the try, we would have played the ball on and probably scored the next tackle. Josh Dugan was the only player in the side who can tackle.
 
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LOL @ Robert Finch in the papers today saying that the video ref didnt hear the whistle or hear puletua being called held.....are you f**kin kidding me? LMFAO what a joke.
 

pantherz9103

First Grade
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We deserved the win regardless of the controversial decisions. I disagree that we would've lost had the decisions been different, not that it matters, lol.
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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Yep. The better side won. Most Raiders fans haven't had any problem admitting that, but i can't imagine skeepe ever admitting it. His team could lose by 50+ and he would still blame the referee.

Unfortunately i can't ever see the referee and video referee improving to the point of no mistakes... or even getting close. Panthers are usually on the wrong end of decisions so it was great for that to not be the case, but i would rather have the referee be spot on every week then be ripped off 90% of the time and then get the odd game where we get the rub of the green.

We would have atleast 2 extra wins if that were the case, and i don't believe any of our wins have been thanks to a referee/video referee this year. We've had one or two games where they helped, but we were still the better side.
 
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I still can't fathom how Robert Finch can justify that Puletua try..if that was in the field of play dugan would have been penalised for holding on too long, thats how far gone the momentum was...what a f**king genius, no wonder the standard of officiating is sh*t with this baboon in charge.
 

bileduct

Coach
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Finch is full of sh*t.

If the decision is as clear cut as he seems to think it is, then why the f**k was the try given benefit of the doubt?

If I were to take his explanation that Puletua was still struggling to ground the ball, and that the referee can not adjudicate on held up decisions, then I see absolutely no reason why there is any doubt in the video referee's mind. Puletua CLEARLY grounded the ball... It just took him about 5 seconds to do so. Not a problem according to Finch!

So why the f**k was the try given benefit of the doubt? What doubt?!

Furthermore, and this is the part that infuriates me most, Finch would like us to conveniantly forget that the video referee has the ability to refer the decision back to the ground referee. These types of decisions have been referred to the on field referee in the past who has denied tries on the basis that the player was held up in goal.

Based on Finch's explanation, I guess we can take the held up rule out of the rule book.

This is a bullsh*t explanation to cover for a bullsh*t decision that further highlights the gross incompetency of these f**ks.
 

bileduct

Coach
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Yep. The better side won.
Sorry, but with three bullsh*t decisions determining the difference between both teams in the first half, and the Raiders winning the second half, I'm not sure that's as clear cut as you say.

Call me bitter all you want, but if I was ever asked to point out one single game where the referees had a direct impact on the result, saturday night's Raiders vs. Panthers game will be first in mind, every. single. time.

Note that I did not say that the Raiders would have won the game had these decisions been reversed. But for one half of football they were certainly denied the opportunity to have a say in the outcome.
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
Staff member
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Yep, Penrith led 18-0 and weren't the better side :lol:

You've lost it bud.

Now, try a response without calling me an avalanche of naughty words :)
 

bileduct

Coach
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Yep, Penrith led 18-0 and weren't the better side :lol:

You've lost it bud.

Now, try a response without calling me an avalanche of naughty words :)
Read what I wrote, dickhead.

Go drink some mercury or something you f**king oxygen thief.
 

mxlegend99

Referee
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LMFAO. Panthers were clearly the better side if you take scoreline out of it altogether.

Statistics where Panthers were better:
Errors
Panthers - 9
Raiders - 16 (i'm sure the referee is responsible for this though)

Line Dropouts
Panthers - 1
Raiders - 7

Metres Gained
Panthers - 1353m
Raiders - 959m

Goals Kicker
Panthers - 5/5
Raiders - 1/3

Missed Tackles
Panthers - 24
Raiders - 26

Linebreaks
Panthers - 5
Raiders - 4

Offloads
Panthers - 16
Raiders - 11

40/20s
Panthers - 1
Raiders - 0

Try Assists
Panthers - 4
Raiders - 2

Statistics where Raiders were better:
Penalties
Panthers - 4
Raiders - 7

Panthers were easily the better side and the video referee merely made winning easier then it would have been. It's not the video referees fault that the Raiders kept dropping the ball and butchering all their opportunities. 2 of the Raiders disallowed tries were because of Raiders who just can't catch... and while you could have gotten BOTD, there was still an error by a Raider in the try regardless. According to rleague.com, these are the top 5 players for errors:

Josh Dugan - 5 errors
Daniel Vidot - 3 errors
Terry Campese - 2 errors
Josh Miller - 2 errors
Marc Herbert - 2 errors
 

Timmah

LeagueUnlimited News Editor
Staff member
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:lol:

That's not a statistic, that's a bitter wankers opinion.
 
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