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'10 | R1 | Mon | Tigers 26-22 Sea Eagles | SFS

Result: Tigers v Sea Eagles


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mxlegend99

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Preview from NRL.com

Wests Tigers v Sea Eagles
SFS
Monday 7pm

The season’s opening Monday night fixture should be a beauty between two Sydney clubs desperate to get off to a flier.

The Wests Tigers camp has been brimming with confidence after way too many lean years in a row and with Lote Tuquri comes another strike weapon to add to their impressive attacking arsenal. They now boast a halves pairing with added potential – something missing since the departure of Scott Prince – plus Robbie Farah is an established superstar at hooker.

They also have some added aggression in the pack, thanks to Jason Cayless’ arrival, and as such another year without a finals appearance would be unacceptable.

Manly, on the other hand, finished 2009 in sad circumstances. A personal tragedy to a team-mate forced problems with their finals preparations and then upsets pushed them out the back door.

They have bubbled along nicely in the pre-season, back under the radar somewhat, where Des Hasler loves them to be. Most of the Sydney focus has been on the Eels, Rabbitohs, Dragons, Tigers and even Roosters.

The big question mark for the side comes at halfback… can Kieran Foran replace Matt Orford without too many hassles? Or will it take time for the Sea Eagles to take flight?

With one of the best back rows in the NRL they have plenty of talent to be successful. Tony Williams is going to play centre, while Brett Stewart is hoping to let football do the talking for a while.

The Wests Tigers started the trials with a 28-4 win over North Queensland, then they fell 28-10 to the Roosters in the Foundation Cup before touching up the Sharks 36-12 in Gosford.

Manly lost 42-12 to the Rabbitohs at Redfern before beating Cronulla and fighting out a 16-all draw against the Warriors.

Tim Sheens has Tuquri named on the wing, Tim Moltzen at fullback and Liam Fulton is back starting for the Tigers in the second row after some time in England.

Watch out Wests Tigers: The Stewart brothers are primed to shake off the uncertainty and annoyance of off-field distraction with great on-field play.

Brett at his best is one of the NRL’s best fullbacks with pace to burn and an uncanny knack of finding the try line.

Glenn has blossomed into one of the best workhorse second row forwards. He tackles himself to a standstill and still has time to chime in as an attacking ball runner.

You can be sure both men will be heavily involved in Manly’s game plan and the Tigers will have to contain them to survive.

Watch out Sea Eagles: Even if they try to downplay it, we all know the Wests Tigers are predominantly an attacking team. The Sea Eagles have to be aware the Tigers won’t discriminate when it comes to launching attacking plays. They will have set moves from penalties and scrums, they will get creative in their opponent’s quarter, but they will also have a crack from long range.

In 2009, the Wests Tigers led the NRL with 134 line-breaks over the regular season, with 14 of those coming from dummy-half and another nine from kick returns. Manly must kick-chase with purpose and they cannot for even a second take their eyes off Robbie Farah.

Where it will be won: Robert Lui and Kieran Foran are both young halfbacks with plenty to prove and the youngster who gets on top of the other in this battle could help propel his side to victory.

Foran played nine NRL games in 2009 and managed six line-breaks and six tries – pretty decent for a rookie. He showed off pace and tenacity, something the Manly faithful already love about him.

Lui played just three NRL games in 2009 but showed enough potential to have people excited for his and the Tigers’ future. He managed two line-breaks in his three games and threw in a try assist. While Benji Marshall and Robbie Farah will direct most of the play for the Tigers, Lui’s impact can’t be underestimated. He has the confidence to overcall his senior team-mates and has the football nous to know when to do so. So while the performances of Jamie Lyon and Marshall are pivotal, it is the two youngsters and their contributions that will be all-important.

The History: Played 13; Wests Tigers 5, Sea Eagles 8. Manly have won five of the past six games between the two clubs – although the last clash went the way of the Wests Tigers, 19-18. That is the only previous clash between the two clubs at the SFS, so the Tigers hold the advantage at the venue.

Conclusion: This really does shape up as a great finish to the opening round, as both teams have legitimate claims to favouritism.

The Wests Tigers have the attack to blow away Manly if they get a roll on but the Manly side has proven match-winners and premiership-winning footballers (yes, yes, the Tigers have a few of those also…) who aren’t poor in attack themselves.

One gets the feeling the tries scored in this match will be exciting. Don’t be afraid to tip either way on this one.

Match officials: Referees – Jared Maxwell & Gavin Badger; Sideline Officials – Gavin Reynolds & Paul Holland; Video Ref – Chris Ward.

Televised: Fox Sports 2 – Live 7pm.
 

The 18th Man

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My tips is: Wests Tigers

This will be a cracker! As with the Bunnies vs. Roosters game, I tip here with no confidence and go Wests Tigers purely on the back of the Benji Marshall and Robbie Farrah factor for the Wests Tigers. These two guys are as good as any in turning a game on its head and I think they can be the difference here.

I am also a little hesitant, initially early anyway, in the Manly side. Matt Orford was for so long the centre piece of their attack and whilst I don’t doubt the potential or ability of young Keiran Foran, I still see the Manly side taking a little time to adjust without their former playmaker.
 

eagles4eva

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The funny thing is that most people bagged the crap out of Ox, now he is gone people are banging on that we can't win with out him!!!

Manly by 12
 

Lambretta

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(tongue in cheek review from someone that didnt bag Ox out)

Tigers v Manly
Last season this was Monday Night Football of the round, but back then Manly had more than just a half decent forward pack. What works in favour of this tie is that the Tigers are still a work in progress. One team that will never be complete with Jamie Lyon as a play maker, up against a team that is being tinkererd with and will continue to be tinkerered with by their coach until injuries mean he cant persist with people that are rubbish at the expense of talent. If Lote Tuqiri plays, Sheens is mental. Lote is the lotto play. You'd only do it if you needed a million dollar payout there and then. Oh and the odds of it working are about as good. The utter unreadyness of both sides means this will fail to live up to last years classic, but it'll be close and we'll all get to laugh at Manly's expense. Tigers by 6.
 
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Manly needs an organiser. I don't think Foran can provide that and they'll lack structure without Orford.

The Tigers will struggle with Lui at halfback, I sincerly think Moltzen is the go. Luckily having Farah & Benji, 2 of the best at their respective positions, I think we'll be able to overcome the problem of Lui's inexperience and inneffectiveness.

I'm tipping us by a try or less, it'll be close but I think we'll just get up.
 

Lambretta

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Manly needs an organiser. I don't think Foran can provide that and they'll lack structure without Orford.

The Tigers will struggle with Lui at halfback, I sincerly think Moltzen is the go. Luckily having Farah & Benji, 2 of the best at their respective positions, I think we'll be able to overcome the problem of Lui's inexperience and inneffectiveness.

I'm tipping us by a try or less, it'll be close but I think we'll just get up.

It's funny. I know loads of Tigers fans (the forums at inthemix are full of ya) and they all universally disagree with Tim Sheens. Whatever choice he makes is lambasted as being complete bollocks and by and large I have to agree with them.

So how come Sheens is referred to as "respected" by the media when it seems he's anything but by the fans :lol:

I reckon you should give Lui a chance and then if he is complete pants you can put Arana Tuamata in when his leg is better. That kid is magic.
 

Vic Mackey

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blake lazarus (BRET halfback) has been pulled out of the state cup team that was going to play this afternoon

RLW reported he was on standby for Benji

read into that what you will...
 
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Thanks for this Vic...interesting. Favouritism I feel goes back to Manly if Benji is missing.

Lui is his natural postion of 5/8 where he will go well
got a feeling sheens will go with lazarus on the bench with moltzen to half(we went 6-0 with him there last year) and Tuqiri to fullback and fitzy on th wing
1.Tuqiri 2.Fitzhenry 3.Lawrence 4.Ayshford 5.Ryan 6.Lui 7.Moltzen its still better or = to manly ,though fitzhenry is a weak link lol
 
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It's funny. I know loads of Tigers fans (the forums at inthemix are full of ya) and they all universally disagree with Tim Sheens. Whatever choice he makes is lambasted as being complete bollocks and by and large I have to agree with them.

So how come Sheens is referred to as "respected" by the media when it seems he's anything but by the fans :lol:

I reckon you should give Lui a chance and then if he is complete pants you can put Arana Tuamata in when his leg is better. That kid is magic.

The media can't actively go out and bag someone really. They pretty much have to respect him, consdering he's won an amazing 3 premierships, 2 with an invincible side at Canberra and 1 at the Tigers with arguably the greatest attacking team of all time. He also boasts an incredibly 36% win rate, rivalled by very few active coaches.


That's besides point, I think Sheens is quite arrogant. He sticks to his plan no matter how stupid or hopeless and isn't willing to change when it's wrong. That's one of the reasons why he gets a lot of hate.
 

Beachy Eagle

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Foran has played at international level for NZ, and people are wondering if he is up to this?
The eagles big problem will be Tony Williams in the centres, Lawrence could make a mess of him.
I think it wll be closer than some suggest, either eagles or tigers by 2. Obviously i will lean towards th eagles.
 

Beachy Eagle

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1) Stewart (NSW/AUST) 2) Williams (NSW/AUST) 3) Farrah 4) Matai (NZ) 5 Robertson (SCOTLAND) 6) Lyon (NSW/AUST) 7) Foran (NZ)
Given time to clck again I believe the Eagles backline will be fine!

And i believe s all over -
Originally Posted by joel caine number 1 fan
1.Tuqiri 2.Fitzhenry 3.Lawrence 4.Ayshford 5.Ryan 6.Lui 7.Moltzen its still better or = to manly
 

MacDougall

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blake lazarus (BRET halfback) has been pulled out of the state cup team that was going to play this afternoon

RLW reported he was on standby for Benji

read into that what you will...

Well it seems Darren Nicholls was the one that didn't play, Lazarus certainly did.
 

TimmyB

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1) Stewart (NSW/AUST) 2) Williams (NSW/AUST) 3) Farrah 4) Matai (NZ) 5 Robertson (SCOTLAND) 6) Lyon (NSW/AUST) 7) Foran (NZ)
Given time to clck again I believe the Eagles backline will be fine!

And i believe s all over -
Originally Posted by joel caine number 1 fan
1.Tuqiri 2.Fitzhenry 3.Lawrence 4.Ayshford 5.Ryan 6.Lui 7.Moltzen its still better or = to manly
Isn't Williams playing in the centres? Or are you talking full strength?

In which case, I'd take

1. Moltzen 2. Tuqiri 3. Lawrence 4. Ayshford 5. Tuiaki 6. Marshall 7. Lui
 

typicalfan

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Foran has played at international level for NZ, and people are wondering if he is up to this?
The eagles big problem will be Tony Williams in the centres, Lawrence could make a mess of him.
I think it wll be closer than some suggest, either eagles or tigers by 2. Obviously i will lean towards th eagles.

I would say leading a team to a grand final win at halfback is more difficult than snaring a rep team spot. I wouldn't be alone in that thought either.
 

GB!

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Isn't Williams playing in the centres? Or are you talking full strength?

In which case, I'd take

1. Moltzen 2. Tuqiri 3. Lawrence 4. Ayshford 5. Tuiaki 6. Marshall 7. Lui

yes and he's an international too! (tonga)

i also love how lote hasn't even played a game yet but heaps of tigers fans already have him as a starting winger ahead of ryan who i think was one of your best last year.
 

gronkathon

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Well it seems Darren Nicholls was the one that didn't play, Lazarus certainly did.

Nicholls was used as a bench hooker so he Lazarus and Taumata all played saturday. Apprantly both NRL halves made it through last training a o.k. Would not be suprised to see Lazarus and Taumata warming up with the side though
 

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