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'13 | Origin II | Wed 26 Jun | QLD 26-6 NSW | Suncorp

Origin II: QLD v NSW


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lol not sure if srs. how many years has merrit been playing in the wing? do you think all of a sudden he felt like leaving his position to come in one of the most import game in his career. he would of been hooked

He should have been hooked. You can't be that naive. You would have lost count of the amount of posts that predicted he would do just that before this game. Go back and have a read.
 

NrlCoach

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Jamie Lyon? Seriously?

Every time he's played origin he's been sh#thouse and that's why he retired from rep footy. I just don't get all this Lyon di#k riding. Slow and mentally weak in the big games, hence the retirement.
Great club player. avarage rep player :crazy: never understood the hype regarding lyon and rep footy
 

BranVan3000

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Not sure what you're referring to here. The wing wasn't covered because the NSW winger left that position and came in field to hold hands with the blokes that were defending there and then left a gaping hole between himself and the sideline for Boyd to walk through.

The first try on that side where Merritt was forced to come in because there was a three to one overlap by the time the ball had gotten to Lewis, the NSW defence simply wasn't sliding. Merritt also shut down a few plays where that was happening, it shouldn't just be the winger moving up placing pressure, why were the rest of the team sitting on their heels? In game one they shut everything down by constantly moving up

The try after half time Merritt came to shut down Inglis which was a poor mis-read, Thurston got the ball to Boyd - but Morris and Dugan were there at the line to stop Boyd. Boyd never should have gotten over if the cover was there - which apparently was the plan. But Dugan got pushed back like five meters
 

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On Boyd's 2nd try, Morris was marking up on Inglis when Merritt came flying in from the wing, leaving Boyd with an easy passage to the line.
His defensive decisions were woeful, he cannot be picked for game 3.
 
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Boyd had two players covering him regardless of if Merritt shot up, why on Earth did he bump off Dugan so easily?

Was there anybody watching live who thought that Queensland were going to score in that situation?

When Merritt rushed up I thought for a split second "Oh shit, they've scored"..... Then I saw Dugan in good position and Pearce coming across and thought "Phew, no way he's getting through"

My thoughts weren't that coherent but you get my point. I can't believe Dugan got sat down like he did.

The Thaiday try looked fair enough, but when I saw the replay I was scratching my head as to what the f**k Dugan was doing.

He seems to half sit down/fall backwards when someone runs into him. I don't know whether he was thinking to hold the ball up and use his body as a shield or what but it was weak f**king tackling
 

Dave_

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I'd cry tears of joy if Mullo was ever picked again.

But he won't. No matter how well he plays, he'll be over looked due to his debut which just a complete disgrace.

Exactly. One poor game at the age of 18 or 19 and he gets the spear yet Pearce has 10 or 11 straight DUD performances but he continues to be rewarded with selection and never comes under scrutiny from the media.

The players and fans know the truth. Sh#ttest player in the comp.
 

Pete Cash

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The weird thing is he used to commonly make those plays. I don't know if its just concern for his body or whatever but he certainly doesn't defend like he used to
 

natheel

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You dumb merkin.

When Woods went off NSW had carried the ball twice.

So what Gallen still managed to make decent metres in those first exchanges.

Woods made 38 metres from 7 carries
Gallen made 134 from 13
Fifita 97 from 10
 

Noname36

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I'd cry tears of joy if Mullo was ever picked again.

But he won't. No matter how well he plays, he'll be over looked due to his debut which just a complete disgrace.

You know what I find absolutely hilarious? At the time of Mullo's debut we were all criticising him because of how he went missing in the second half, but now looking back on the halves that have made their debuts since then, his performance was probably one of the better ones. And he did it as a 19 year old playing out of position with Anasta next to him. I don't think back in 2007 we realised yet just how dominant that Qld team were and how none of our players were going to match them.

Hindsight is a funny thing.
 
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The weird thing is he used to commonly make those plays. I don't know if its just concern for his body or whatever but he certainly doesn't defend like he used to

Dugan? I remember him smashing the f**k out of a rampaging Dave Taylor front on. It's on Youtube somewhere I can't be bothered opening up a tab to find it.

It's weird, I've never had him down as a soft tackler, I know he gets called soft but when I've seen him he's put in the effort if nothing else. Not sure what he was doing, I can only assume he was trying to sort of half-fall with the Queenslander players and use his body to keep the ball from the ground, it wasn't working whatever it was
 

Swarzey

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You know what I find absolutely hilarious? At the time of Mullo's debut we were all criticising him because of how he went missing in the second half, but now looking back on the halves that have made their debuts since then, his performance was probably one of the better ones. And he did it as a 19 year old playing out of position with Anasta next to him. I don't think back in 2007 we realised yet just how dominant that Qld team were and how none of our players were going to match them.

Hindsight is a funny thing.

His debut was better than half of the performances Pearce has ever played :lol: The game itself didn't ruin him, the criticism afterwards.

Like I said in the Pearce and Maloney thread, NSW needs to experiment and if that means giving blokes like Mullo and Carney another shot, then they need to bite the bullet and take the risk. They just need to get Pearce out of there.
 

Shorty

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His debut was better than half of the performances Pearce has ever played :lol: The game itself didn't ruin him, the criticism afterwards.

Like I said in the Pearce and Maloney thread, NSW needs to experiment and if that means giving blokes like Mullo and Carney another shot, then they need to bite the bullet and take the risk. They just need to get Pearce out of there.

They should have stuck with Mullen, who knows what would have happened if they persevered.
 

BranVan3000

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On Boyd's 2nd try, Morris was marking up on Inglis when Merritt came flying in from the wing, leaving Boyd with an easy passage to the line.
His defensive decisions were woeful, he cannot be picked for game 3.

Actually, if Merritt didn't come in then Morris was covering Thurston, Slater and Inglis on his own

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The NSW defence was just not sliding, imagine the gap if Merritt was staying out on his wing
 

Swarzey

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They should have stuck with Mullen, who knows what would have happened if they persevered.

We can only imagine. He developed an incredible running game in 08/09 and even this year has broken the defense a number of times to get us in good field position. If he was to play with a halfback that can structure the team, I'd really love to see what would happen on the grand stage.
 

Someone

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merritt should have pushed up on boyd, morris would have slowed down/or tackled inglis with sliding defence getting to him.

Its too late by the time it gets out to boyd.
 

TimmyB

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So what Gallen still managed to make decent metres in those first exchanges.

Woods made 38 metres from 7 carries
Gallen made 134 from 13
Fifita 97 from 10

Actually, 38 metres from 5 carries.
And Fifita was 97 from 12, so pretty similar per metre carries.
Gallen did not make decent metres in those first exchanges. NSW had the ball for about 9 tackles. Gallen stayed on when Woods went off. Fifita came on when NSW had the ball.
Woods defense in the middle of the park in the first 15 minutes was fantastic. That's basically all he could do.
 

BranVan3000

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merritt should have pushed up on boyd, morris would have slowed down/or tackled inglis with sliding defence getting to him.

Its too late by the time it gets out to boyd.

Thurston would have passed a short ball to Billy in that case, the center and wing were outnumbered every time Queensland moved it wide

The real problem was nobody pressuring Thurston, everybody for NSW was waiting for him to make a move before defending
 

Someone

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Thurston would have passed a short ball to Billy in that case, the center and wing were outnumbered every time Queensland moved it wide

The real problem was nobody pressuring Thurston, everybody for NSW was waiting for him to make a move before defending

yes, thats where the rushing needs to happen, early. slow down the playmakers and it gives time for our ever so lazy slide defence to move across.

we were atrocious tonight. the score could have easily been 40-6
 

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