15 OR 16 TEAM COMP

[KFC]

I believe would should have more teams. However I think that the addition of any team will cause quite a deal of trouble. I mean if you were a Balmain, Wests, St George, Illawarra or bears fan how would you feel? Those teams were literally forced into joint ventures because there was only ever gonna be 14 teams. It's a PR nightmare and it will take extremely strong leadership from the NRL to get this one right.

 

[Hazy]

A - rugby union wont take the 'ANZAC' test, they're playing S12 so they can fit in with the Northern unions for tours and such, and the nature of the S12 (12 teams, three countries) wont allow a 'set' game each and every year.

B - Moving the ANZAC test to Melbourne would never work, they (we) have the Essendon Collngwood game. Not much point having a league game at Telstra Dome when everyone else is either at the 'G, at home or at the pub watching the Dons and the Pies.

 

[The Observer]

Wasn't that to put a scare into the clubs?

Appears to be working. Hawthorns sounding out Launceston and the Kangaroos have been nomads forever...

Could you tell me what happened to Brisbane Bears and Fitzroy Lions in 1996?

 

[Pantherjim.]

make 6 Sydney teams merge into 3

admit the GC, CC and Wellington

play true home and away = 22 rounds

season shortened

the CEO that actually has the balls to do this will be historically the greatest when we are all old and grey

Oink !

Based on your suggestion, I'm gathering that you don't support any of these 6 Sydney Teams?? :roll:

Considering the vast majority of people in this country who follow League support these 6 Sydney based teams how in the hell do you intend to sell this idea to them i.e. That it would be a good idea if their long-standing club were to merge with another club, despite their success and financial viability??? That It would be a good idea for their club to not only lose their identity, but history and culture?? :lol:

I know many a Penrith, Canterbury, Souths, Manly, Parramatta and Sydney City Supporter would rather follow AFL, take up fishing or twiddle their thumbs all footy season than watch their club merge and play as a joint-venture. And I'm one of the VAAAAAST MAJORITY of those supporters.

You want to kill off Rugby League totally, you're going about it the right way!


Pantherjim.

 

[Crusader]

Playing each team once isn't a good idea Hazy imo, there's too much inconsistency.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

If there is a 16 team competition in the next few years:

*22 rounds including split rounds during the Origin period
*Top 8 Final series, ARL 1995-96 format
*Two tests during the year either ANZAC Test and after Origin, or after Origin and after Grand Final. Or have three tests played during the year.
*I agree with Generalissimo Stalin, the Tri Series should be played in all three countries during the year.
*City/country with all players available
*Friday night football 'Live'
*Test matches "Live" and well promoted
*local derbies played at least twice a year.
*Sunday alvo Grand Final at 3pm or even 4pm.
*Grand Final played in September
*Golden Point in State Of Origin and Finals games only. Bring back the draws

 

[The Wombat]

make 6 Sydney teams merge into 3

admit the GC, CC and Wellington

play true home and away = 22 rounds

season shortened

the CEO that actually has the balls to do this will be historically the greatest when we are all old and grey

Oink !

This MUST be a joke, right?

Look at the Wests Tigers crowds... They have lost half the fans of both balmain and Wests Magpies because people want to follow a traditional club. They are not going to support merged teams that have no roots in community. If they did they would support, they wiould support basketball or some other new game.

What else are you suggesting... Parra and Penrith merge?? Easts and Souths?? Crounlla and Saints?? Canterbury and ....? It'll never work.

Actually there was a CEO who had the "balls" to do all that you suggested. His name was John Ribot and look where he ended up... A game that has just about been ripped apart for the sake of TV rights. Yes, lets go through that again....

18 teams, the current 15 plus the 3 that want in.

 

[The Engineers Room]

We need eventually to be able to have much more sides and have a Divisional style Championship. Split each of the two divisions in two groups and have the groups from opposite divisions play the other.

20 Teams

Division 1
10 Sydney Based Including Central Coast
Division 2
10 Non Sydney Based.

Play the teams in your own Division twice (home and away).
18 Games
Split the teams
Division 1 Group 1 play Division 2 group 1.
5 Games

So there is 23 Rounds . Top 2 from each division and next best four from either comp make the eight. We get 11 Home games a year, 20 Teams, 1 neutral venue game each team and still only 23 rounds.

 

[The Engineers Room]

Oh and the groups switch who they play each year. That means that for an example.

One year Manly would Play Newcastle once. The next year they might play brisbane once.

But the whole bias issue is not valid as to make the eight you would have to win about 60% of your games.

 

[DIEHARD]

If there is a 16 team competition in the next few years:

*22 rounds including split rounds during the Origin period
*Top 8 Final series, ARL 1995-96 format
*Two tests during the year either ANZAC Test and after Origin, or after Origin and after Grand Final. Or have three tests played during the year.
*I agree with Generalissimo Stalin, the Tri Series should be played in all three countries during the year.
*City/country with all players available
*Friday night football 'Live'
*Test matches "Live" and well promoted
*local derbies played at least twice a year.
*Sunday alvo Grand Final at 3pm or even 4pm.
*Grand Final played in September
*Golden Point in State Of Origin and Finals games only. Bring back the draws

I agree with all of this, esspecially the need for derbies to be played twice by having rivals in the same group. Especially when the Gold Coast come in, they need to play the Broncos twice and maybe even the Cowboys.

I like the golden point for normal matches though. Keeping the Anzac test is a must, it could grow into a fantastic tradition.

Over all, great vision PARRA FAN!

 

[Front-Rower]

Good idea Dvdhntr but is there really enough talent going around to fulfil 20 teams? I mean look at the current 15 teams and apart from the top 4 or 5 the rest don't have a real lot of talent in reserve.

Espeically teams like Souths and Wests Tigers and to some degree Saints who got hammered by Manly after missing 3 or 4 top players.

 

[The Engineers Room]

True but if it takes off the player pool and talent pool will increase. Just recently a Melbourne boy was named as the next big thing. This is encouraging.

But it is a gamble.

 

[The Wombat]

Good idea Dvdhntr but is there really enough talent going around to fulfil 20 teams? I mean look at the current 15 teams and apart from the top 4 or 5 the rest don't have a real lot of talent in reserve.

Espeically teams like Souths and Wests Tigers and to some degree Saints who got hammered by Manly after missing 3 or 4 top players.

there were enough players to fill 22 teams during stupid league

 

[EdBurton]

Good idea Dvdhntr but is there really enough talent going around to fulfil 20 teams? I mean look at the current 15 teams and apart from the top 4 or 5 the rest don't have a real lot of talent in reserve.

Espeically teams like Souths and Wests Tigers and to some degree Saints who got hammered by Manly after missing 3 or 4 top players.

there were enough players to fill 22 teams during stupid league

No there wasn't and that's the point. Sure, there were 22 teams of players that were playing first grade, but there were NOT 22 teams of fisrt graders.

 

[Surandy]

20 teams? That would mean more games played per round right? Where would the NRL get enough first grade refs from? At the moment they have.......umm, do they have one?

#-o

 

[iggy plop]

A - rugby union wont take the 'ANZAC' test, they're playing S12 so they can fit in with the Northern unions for tours and such, and the nature of the S12 (12 teams, three countries) wont allow a 'set' game each and every year.

B - Moving the ANZAC test to Melbourne would never work, they (we) have the Essendon Collngwood game. Not much point having a league game at Telstra Dome when everyone else is either at the 'G, at home or at the pub watching the Dons and the Pies.

Well the easy way around that would be to play it on a Friday night like they did this year. Then it wouldn't have to clash with Coll vs Ess. As long as it's played on the weekend surrounding ANZAC Day.

 

[Pigskin]

make 6 Sydney teams merge into 3

admit the GC, CC and Wellington

play true home and away = 22 rounds

season shortened

the CEO that actually has the balls to do this will be historically the greatest when we are all old and grey

Oink !

This MUST be a joke, right?

Look at the Wests Tigers crowds... They have lost half the fans of both balmain and Wests Magpies because people want to follow a traditional club. They are not going to support merged teams that have no roots in community. If they did they would support, they wiould support basketball or some other new game.

What else are you suggesting... Parra and Penrith merge?? Easts and Souths?? Crounlla and Saints?? Canterbury and ....? It'll never work.

Actually there was a CEO who had the "balls" to do all that you suggested. His name was John Ribot and look where he ended up... A game that has just about been ripped apart for the sake of TV rights. Yes, lets go through that again....

18 teams, the current 15 plus the 3 that want in.

ok you and pantherjim just sit tight in Sydney with your multitude of teams, some of which have no hope of moving out of the cellar in the near future and prohibit the game from going forward

or as you say

admit 3 more teams, all of which will go straight past said above teams with no hope of moving out of the cellar ..... further stretching the playing talent which isn't large enough to make 15 quality teams ..... but lets stretch it to 18 shall we - yeah great idea

and John Ribot ended up a multi millionaire and highly successful businessman .... not that I am pro Ribot but thats a stupid statement to say look where he ended up

Option 2 then since you can't see sense

admit the 3 teams you speak of, abolish the salary cap temporarily, let teams fold and we'll probly still get down to 14 teams, whereas my previous suggestion would have kept all alive and took the comp down to 12

9 teams in Sydney is just bad business sense

we need a CEO with balls to fix it

Oink !

 

[Pigskin]

20 teams was a farcical standard of play

we don't have the depth for 18 .... we don't even have the depth for 15 currently

12 is perfect or 14 teams max is what is required, you figure it out then

the only way we are ever gonna see all teams starting a season with genuine hope and every teams supporters able to go the footy on the weekend with a chance of seeing their side win is have less teams

Oink !

 

[EdBurton]

make 6 Sydney teams merge into 3

admit the GC, CC and Wellington

play true home and away = 22 rounds

season shortened

the CEO that actually has the balls to do this will be historically the greatest when we are all old and grey

Oink !

This MUST be a joke, right?

Look at the Wests Tigers crowds... They have lost half the fans of both balmain and Wests Magpies because people want to follow a traditional club. They are not going to support merged teams that have no roots in community. If they did they would support, they wiould support basketball or some other new game.

What else are you suggesting... Parra and Penrith merge?? Easts and Souths?? Crounlla and Saints?? Canterbury and ....? It'll never work.

Actually there was a CEO who had the "balls" to do all that you suggested. His name was John Ribot and look where he ended up... A game that has just about been ripped apart for the sake of TV rights. Yes, lets go through that again....

18 teams, the current 15 plus the 3 that want in.

ok you and pantherjim just sit tight in Sydney with your multitude of teams, some of which have no hope of moving out of the cellar in the near future and prohibit the game from going forward

or as you say

admit 3 more teams, all of which will go straight past said above teams with no hope of moving out of the cellar ..... further stretching the playing talent which isn't large enough to make 15 quality teams ..... but lets stretch it to 18 shall we - yeah great idea

and John Ribot ended up a multi millionaire and highly successful businessman .... not that I am pro Ribot but thats a stupid statement to say look where he ended up

Option 2 then since you can't see sense

admit the 3 teams you speak of, abolish the salary cap temporarily, let teams fold and we'll probly still get down to 14 teams, whereas my previous suggestion would have kept all alive and took the comp down to 12

9 teams in Sydney is just bad business sense

we need a CEO with balls to fix it

Oink !

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ribot run the Melbourne Storm?
Who ran at a loss of millions every year?

 

[PARRA_FAN]

If there is a 16 team competition in the next few years:

*22 rounds including split rounds during the Origin period
*Top 8 Final series, ARL 1995-96 format
*Two tests during the year either ANZAC Test and after Origin, or after Origin and after Grand Final. Or have three tests played during the year.
*I agree with Generalissimo Stalin, the Tri Series should be played in all three countries during the year.
*City/country with all players available
*Friday night football 'Live'
*Test matches "Live" and well promoted
*local derbies played at least twice a year.
*Sunday alvo Grand Final at 3pm or even 4pm.
*Grand Final played in September
*Golden Point in State Of Origin and Finals games only. Bring back the draws

I agree with all of this, esspecially the need for derbies to be played twice by having rivals in the same group. Especially when the Gold Coast come in, they need to play the Broncos twice and maybe even the Cowboys.

I like the golden point for normal matches though. Keeping the Anzac test is a must, it could grow into a fantastic tradition.

Over all, great vision PARRA FAN!

This format goes back to 1994 and before, the good old days. AHHHH.

Local derbies should be played twice a year here's some of them:

Dragons Vs Sharks
Roosters Vs Souths
Brisbane Vs Cowboys
Parramatta Vs Penrith
Bulldogs Vs Wests Tigers