18th club, whose next?

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Honestly, the Pacifika idea reminds me of that ‘a camel is a horse designed by committee’ idiom.

We want a PNG team. That’s based in Australia because PNG is unsafe and no one wants to live there. But it also has to represent the other Pacific Islands. Oh… and it also has to be based in Queensland as we want another Queensland team. Plus let’s Chuck in the Bears brand too.

Synergy.

We'll relocate the Roosters to Port Moresby to honour the contributions of Adrian Lam and his son.


Port Moresby Roosters.

That'll solve the Roosters' problem with juniors!

No need for the tax payer to fund it. Nick Politis has deep pockets.

 

[Colk]

A Pasifika team enters and I'm watching SL and the NFL.

Oh well have fun

 

[Iamback]

Two problems I see there are
1: Sydney is already oversaturated with teams
2: Brisbane only have two currently, but they also have established QRL clubs who’d expect to be next in line for admission in QLD.
Auckland is the other possibility, having the best transport links to Fiji/Tonga/Samoa and the largest P.I. population, but it isn’t convenient to PNG and would heavily cannibalise the Warriors.

Sydney can’t have a F/T team but have a training base allows the young guys good schooling, Jobs for family. That will help those in the 17-18 year old age group

 

[Wb1234]

A Sydney base is bad optics

if they go with the bears it means five home grounds

 

[Iamback]

A Sydney base is bad optics

if they go with the bears it means five home grounds

Where else can sustain the 2nd tier/Junior development?

Any QCup side is going to back themselves to get into the comp

 

[Wb1234]

Where else can sustain the 2nd tier/Junior development?

Any QCup side is going to back themselves to get into the comp

Cairns is it imo for better or worse

Brisbane wants the jets they don’t need this fifo side but the mayor of cairns does

 

[Colk]

Cairns is it imo for better or worse

Brisbane wants the jets they don’t need this fifo side but the mayor of cairns does

I’m interested to know the genesis of the Cairns aspect. Like surely if it were based in Sydney or Brisbane, the government wouldn’t go nope we can’t fund it anymore.

 

[Wb1234]

I’m interested to know the genesis of the Cairns aspect. Like surely if it were based in Sydney or Brisbane, the government wouldn’t go nope we can’t fund it anymore.

Mayor of cairns has been talking about linking with png for years

Eg

Papua New Guinea NRL bid draws support from Cairns mayor, who wants a combined team - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

 

[Perth Red]

How much money did they put in?
When is the new stadium being built?
They're covering travel?

O they aren't actually doing anything?
Talking? That's not like government to just talk, must be legit.

Yeh they’re just pssing money away engaging a consultancy firm to choose a bid to back for the fun of it lol

 

[Perth Red]

Of North England or the AFL?
Can't be the NRL, you're 4000km away from any NRL.

For any sane person on this board, you’ve shared your opinion, you can f**k off now and let the grown ups talk. Maybe you and pippen can get a room to troll on together?

 

[Wb1234]

For any sane person on this board, you’ve shared your opinion, you can f**k off now and let the grown ups talk. Maybe you and pippen can get a room to troll on together?

Hangover is a bitch huh ?

 

[Perth Red]

Can’t compare cash grant to fund a club to a vague promise of upgrading a stadium then Charging them a high rent to play in it

Which was my original point

Link to what the WA govt is or isn’t offering? Or just more fabricated bs from you?

 

[Perth Red]

Hangover is a bitch huh ?

I’m on the hair of the dog after last nights celebrations lol

 

[Perth Red]

I’m interested to know the genesis of the Cairns aspect. Like surely if it were based in Sydney or Brisbane, the government wouldn’t go nope we can’t fund it anymore.

The only person who has mentioned it is the mayor of cairns lol. The PNG bid team has been deafeningly silent on the idea!

 

[Wb1234]

The only person who has mentioned it is the mayor of cairns lol. The PNG bid team has been deafeningly silent on the idea!

Png will do whatever the nrl tell them to do

Link to what the WA govt is or isn’t offering? Or just more fabricated bs from you?

Common sense is something you seem to lack

it’s already been discussed that a makeover on that tired ground and potentially a coe is all they will do

doesn’t compare to a minimum of 250 million cold hard Australian dollars being pumped into a team though does it

the funny thing you all haven’t realised is the govt hasn’t even agreed to pay that amount it’s what the arlc is seeking to make the bid happen

 

[LimeRick]

Union fans = attainable.

AFL fans = Unattainable.

I would've thought it was almost the exact opposite.

Most AFL fans don't dislike NRL, they just don't really know about it. Adelaide and Perth can be big bubbles, but they get parochial about a team, so once they have a team they'll get behind it.

Whereas union has historically attempted to quash league around the work. Socially, there's a bigger perceived divide between union and league. I would've considered the leap from union to league bigger than the leap from AFL to league.

AFL fans are at least as attainable as union fans. Add the population and Perth coming in before Christchurch or Wellington is a no-brainer.

 

[MugaB]

I would've thought it was almost the exact opposite.

Most AFL fans don't dislike NRL, they just don't really know about it. Adelaide and Perth can be big bubbles, but they get parochial about a team, so once they have a team they'll get behind it.

Whereas union has historically attempted to quash league around the work. Socially, there's a bigger perceived divide between union and league. I would've considered the leap from union to league bigger than the leap from AFL to league.

AFL fans are at least as attainable as union fans. Add the population and Perth coming in before Christchurch or Wellington is a no-brainer.

Population means nothing if the team that they were getting behind is totally not competetive, it will dive due to the lack of player talent on which they can garner, which might be ok, but not off the juniors that hold it up beneath, that will get whipped as their past pirates team were getting whipped also compared to the nsw junior teams they played... the real issue is they currently aren't going to cut it at the elite 1st grade level, they lack the coaching that gets them higher to rival. where as the digitel comp in png are full of players that could rival the qcup sides... hence why the arlc want to foster that over starting from scratch in WA or SA

 

[Brian potter]

James Marape needs to do the NRL a solid by taking the Chinese yuan allowing Beijing to build a deep water port for the People’s Liberation Army navy’s south sea fleet.

Take the decision out of their hands.

 

[jim_57]

Population means nothing if the team that they were getting behind is totally not competetive, it will dive due to the lack of player talent on which they can garner, which might be ok, but not off the juniors that hold it up beneath, that will get whipped as their past pirates team were getting whipped also compared to the nsw junior teams they played... the real issue is they currently aren't going to cut it at the elite 1st grade level, they lack the coaching that gets them higher to rival. where as the digitel comp in png are full of players that could rival the qcup sides... hence why the arlc want to foster that over starting from scratch in WA or SA

This isn’t a regional representative comp or international game where players have to play for where they live or who they are eligible for. As you’ve seen first hand Burton & Crichton we’re gone as soon as the right offer came along and the Panthers couldn’t match it.

Developing players will have little to no impact on the strength of the first grade team, professional sport has gone way past that. Perth will get a grant, have sponsors and create revenue same as any other club then they’ll use that to buy their squad same as any other club.

Mind you with an NRL club in place it would be a lot easier than it is currently to sign, develop and keep talent from both Rugby codes over there.

 

[Ideas Man Stephen]

A few things I know:

1. A Perth team will lead to maybe 5 locally produced NRL players in the next 25 years.

2. A Perth team does not need to produce local players to be successful. See Storm and Roosters.

3. Setting up a Pacifica team, only to base it out of Aus or NZ to help with recruitment kind of defeats the purpose.

4. There will never be an NRL team based out of any of PNG, Fiji, Tonga or Samoa.

5. A locally based, fully pro, relatively cheap to operate (compared to one NRL club) Pacific league including Hunters, Silktails, Warriors U/19s + 3 or 5 more teams drastically improves player pathway for talented players and coaches, monumentally improves the NRL’s footprint and ownership of the Pacific and will far better deliver against required outcomes and interests of government funding required to help it be successful.

6. The Bears need to find one cause and own it, not jump from interest with Perth, then country NSW, then the Pacific which demonstrates a lack of vision, faith and commitment. If I were them, I would be looking to own the development of the sport in the Central Coast and create an irrefutable case to have the Central Coast Bears enter the NRL. Even if that means waiting 20yrs.