18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

Zero fta slots

So no link, just your opinion then.
Sunday afternoon? And ptv pays most of the deal

 

[Wb1234]

So same as what’s been suggested for perth then lol
I can see nine perth home games on ptv at 6pm and 3 on fta in the fta Sunday afternoon slot. same split as cowboys.
ptv is getting as many viewers as fta these days so there should really be no concerns about impact on corporate $ as cowboys are showing,

tbh fta if it stays with nine isn’t going to be where the big money increase comes from, that will be ptv.
Ch9 showed last deal they don’t value expansion anywhere so unless the 9th game ends up being bought by fta we won’t see much uplift from them regardless of location of team.

Perth offer no unique time slots

 

[Perth Red]

Perth offer no unique time slots

Not sure what you mean?
nz2 offer more games in the dreaded fri 6pm slot
perth offers games and lots of positives in what will likely be the new ninth game time slot, a Sunday 6pm that clubs won’t like.
png no idea when they’ll likely play given heat and what tv is going to think about having to produce games every other week in Port Moresby
Brisbane3 same old same old as is

if we go to twenty, and purely from a tv point of view, then I guess nz2 covering more Friday 6pm and Perth and png covering new Sunday 6pm isnt a bad outcome for the game. No idea where the tenth slot would go!

 

[Centy Coast]

Troll mode more like

the 6pm Sunday slot is perfect for perth and I could see us playing 75% of our games in that slot if we got in. Takes nine sht fan time games away from the east coast clubs.

The NRL did try a lot of games this season around 6pm or after on Sunday. So are you talking 4pm kick off in Perth for 6pm AEST or 6pm kick off in Perth for 8pm AEST.

 

[Perth Red]

The NRL did try a lot of games this season around 6pm or after on Sunday. So are you talking 4pm kick off in Perth for 6pm AEST or 6pm kick off in Perth for 8pm AEST.

6pm aest. Creates a permenant Sunday 3 game program. Likely 2 on ptv, 1 on fta.
Playing games at 8pm on a Sunday on east coast will totally kill crowds.

 

[Wb1234]

So no link, just your opinion then.
Sunday afternoon? And ptv pays most of the deal

C

6pm aest. Creates a permenant Sunday 3 game program. Likely 2 on ptv, 1 on fta.
Playing games at 8pm on a Sunday on east coast will totally kill crowds.

Already covered by existing clubs

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So same as what’s been suggested for perth then lol

Who suggested Perth would host three games on a Thur/Fri night?

No one.

I can see nine perth home games on ptv at 6pm and 3 on fta in the fta Sunday afternoon slot. same split as cowboys.

Now you're bringing up Sunday when the discussion was Thur/Fri.

You're shifting the goal posts.

The irony of Perth hosting a Sunday Ch9 game at 2pm AWST is it defeats the purpose of admitting them into the NRL. If they're playing in this time slot then one some else has to host the Sun 6pm AEST game.

ptv is getting as many viewers as fta these days so there should really be no concerns about impact on corporate $ as cowboys are showing,

FTA + PTV > PTV.

tbh fta if it stays with nine isn’t going to be where the big money increase comes from, that will be ptv.

Didn’t you say the amount we got was due to the ARLC not taking the rights to tender?

Ch9 showed last deal they don’t value expansion anywhere so unless the 9th game ends up being bought by fta we won’t see much uplift from them regardless of location of team.

Another lie.

Ch9 lost four Broncos games.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Not sure what you mean?
nz2 offer more games in the dreaded fri 6pm slot
perth offers games and lots of positives in what will likely be the new ninth game time slot, a Sunday 6pm that clubs won’t like.
png no idea when they’ll likely play given heat and what tv is going to think about having to produce games every other week in Port Moresby
Brisbane3 same old same old as is

if we go to twenty, and purely from a tv point of view, then I guess nz2 covering more Friday 6pm and Perth and png covering new Sunday 6pm isnt a bad outcome for the game. No idea where the tenth slot would go!

PNG could host all 12 of their games at 6pm AEST. Perth could host all 12 games at 4pm AWST. NZ 1 and NZ2 could host 24 games at Fri 6pm AEST

Problem is a 10th game creates an additional time slot that won't be favourable to the east coast clubs. Ch9 won't cover the $60m needed to support these teams through the annual grant. News Ltd won't benefit from it, either. Warriors are already one of the least watched teams on Foxtel. Adding NZ2, PNG and Perth into the mix will lead to more low drawing games.


Will News Ltd splash an extra $60m on three teams that don't draw many viewers?

News Ltd paid extra for the Dolphins because it guaranteed them an extra four exclusive Broncos games.

Another option is to run two games on a Friday at 8pm AEST. One featuring Queensland teams for Ch9 Brisbane. The other featuring NSW teams for Ch9 Sydney. Maximises ratings. The same can be done on a Thursday night or Sunday arvo for the 10th game. The NRL will need another Queensland team to make this work.

 

[Canard]

PNG could host all 12 of their games at 6pm AEST.

Another option is to run two games on a Friday ar 8pm AEST. One featuring Queensland teams and broadcast into Brisbane on Ch9. The other featuring NSW teams and broadcast into Sydney on Ch9. Maximise ratings.

Does PNG reliable enough electricity or actual lighting to host anything but day games?

And reverting to the overlapping TV games, like we previously had, means a reduction in TV money.

 

[Centy Coast]

C

Already covered by existing clubs

It is but the existing clubs definately dislike it because the following week they may be playing on Thursday or Friday nights and the HIA rules really cause havok with team selections.

 

[Perth Red]

Who suggested Perth would host three games on a Thur/Fri night?

No one.



Now you're bringing up Sunday when the discussion was Thur/Fri.

You're shifting the goal posts.

The irony of Perth hosting a Sunday Ch9 game at 2pm AWST is it defeats the purpose of admitting them into the NRL. If they're playing in this time slot then one some else has to host the Sun 6pm AEST game.



FTA + PTV > PTV.



Didn’t you say the amount we got was due to the ARLC not taking the rights to tender?



Another lie.

Ch9 lost four Broncos games.

No you said perth won’t get any fta games and their signage revenue would suffer. that’s bs as the cowboys have shown. No reason perth won’t get 3 fta games on a Sunday afternoon, and if they don’t ptv audience is a big as fta now anyway.

 

[Perth Red]

It is but the existing clubs definately dislike it because the following week they may be playing on Thursday or Friday nights and the HIA rules really cause havok with team selections.

And sht crowds, I’m sure the existing clubs would be more than happy for perth to take half those Sunday 6pm games!

 

[Wb1234]

Lucky we have a strong club like the dolphins who broadcasters want so there’s a place now for a club who broadcasters don’t want like Perth or png

 

[Perth Red]

PNG could host all 12 of their games at 6pm AEST. Perth could host all 12 games at 4pm AWST. NZ 1 and NZ2 could host 24 games at Fri 6pm AEST

Problem is a 10th game creates an additional time slot that won't be favourable to the east coast clubs. Ch9 won't cover the $60m needed to support these teams through the annual grant. News Ltd won't benefit from it, either. Warriors are already one of the least watched teams on Foxtel. Adding NZ2, PNG and Perth into the mix will lead to more low drawing games.


Will News Ltd splash an extra $60m on three teams that don't draw many viewers?

News Ltd paid extra for the Dolphins because it guaranteed them an extra four exclusive Broncos games.

Another option is to run two games on a Friday at 8pm AEST. One featuring Queensland teams for Ch9 Brisbane. The other featuring NSW teams for Ch9 Sydney. Maximises ratings. The same can be done on a Thursday night or Sunday arvo for the 10th game. The NRL will need another Queensland team to make this work.

That’s sort of increase will come from serious competition for the rights, not for paying for extra content. Webe just seen afl get an uplift in region of $150mill a year with no extra teams (maybe tassie tbc). More than enough to see nrl go to 20 clubs.

 

[Perth Red]

Lucky we have a strong club like the dolphins who broadcasters want so there’s a place now for a club who broadcasters don’t want like Perth or png

link?

Lucks got nothing to do with it, it’s only 25 years overdue!

 

[MugaB]

Negativity? Realism? It’s all a question of perspective.

Hahahaha, realism... aka perf

 

[Perth Red]

Hahahaha, realism... aka perf

Expansion thread, stick to topic.

 

[MugaB]

Expansion thread, stick to topic.

Im sticking to realism

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No you said perth won’t get any fta games and their signage revenue would suffer. that’s bs as the cowboys have shown. No reason perth won’t get 3 fta games on a Sunday afternoon, and if they don’t ptv audience is a big as fta now anyway.

You've been arguing ad nauseum about the new time slot Perth can fill. If Perth hosts three Ch9 games in the Sun 4pm AEST timeslot then that leaves them with just nine to be played at Sun 6pm AEST.

The Warriors don't play all twelve of their games at Fri 6pm AEST.

The Eagles and Dockers only played in the Sun evening slot 9 times in 2023.

Will the NRL want a Perth-based NRL team to play its home games at the same time the Eagles and Dockers are at Perth Stadium?

Ch9 will monitor the ratings for a Perth team. If the ratings are shit then they won't feature them too many times.

Why do you keep bringing up the Cowboys?

It's an apples vs oranges comparison.

Cowboys generate the bulk of their revenue from the local economy. Their main sponsorship deal is with a dozen or more Toyota car dealerships from FNQ. It's not as important for them to be on national television because they're selling their product to locals.

VenuesWest said they want an NRL team to provide local companies with exposure to audiences in Brisbane and Sydney. They'll need a decent amount of FTA coverage for their home games to maximise revenue from signage.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That’s sort of increase will come from serious competition for the rights, not for paying for extra content. Webe just seen afl get an uplift in region of $150mill a year with no extra teams (maybe tassie tbc). More than enough to see nrl go to 20 clubs.

What makes you think there will be major competition for the NRL rights in 2027?

You can rule out Ch7 putting in a monster bid. They've got AwFuL and cricket sewn up until 2031. That's 12 months of premium content.

Foxtel paid a fortune to hold onto AwFuL and Cricket. It's 12 months of content.

How much money will Foxtel have in the bank to give us?

That leaves Ch10/Paramount and Ch9/STAN as the only platforms that desperately need us.

What happened to Dave Smith when he dared to cross Mr Murdoch?

Which code did Mr Murdoch say he prefers?