18th club, whose next?

[Perth Red]

What you got is "the bears" brother, you got nothing actually other than a city to showcase a sport we love, thats why we come there for origin, if you land the next licence, i will love that, coz yeah its a must, but don't think for a second you worked for it, if they wanted the bears in Adelaide it would be the exact same thing

We want a club, Bears what in, Vlandys wants the sydney media love. Sometimes them's the breaks.

But no its been my persistent posting on here for the last 15 years thata finally getting us a club lol

 

[MugaB]

Not sure it needs conferences but there should be a draw that maximises attendance and every sydney club playing each other x2, every qlnd team playing each other x2 makes commercial sense.

Mind you it would be interesting to look at the data. Does Cronull a v Manly really draw many more than Cronulla v Melbourne?

Exactly bottom line having an "ALL Sydney" conference is totally a misguided concept, all it does is give the old 60 yr olds a reminder of the good ol days from the NSWRL in the 80s, before all those pesky expansion teams came in and ruined it all

 

[taste2taste]

Seriously though, Sydney and Non-Sydney being two conferences is dumber then the Singapore NRL idea.

I guess the thinking is every weekend would be a derby with big crowds.

Currently the games where the away team brings no fans ( eels v storm ) are either taken to the bush or 'promoted' to magic round.

Not playing the QLD teams until semis would lead to huge interest and crowds.

SOO would be even bigger if it's the only time during the regular season the NSW players played the QLD players

 

[MugaB]

We want a club, Bears what in, Vlandys wants the sydney media love. Sometimes them's the breaks.

But no its been my persistent posting on here for the last 15 years thata finally getting us a club lol

Positivity plus over here, bottle this stuff fellas, PR being a happy camper for all of 30mins... this stuff is gold.... and you praising PVL too? You must be delirious PR
I did tell you that the bears are one of the 3 right?
and i still dont think its next, but hey I take it..
Just make sure you got that licence framed and concreted into the soil over in perf, k?

 

[Perth Red]

Exactly bottom line having an "ALL Sydney" conference is totally a misguided concept, all it does is give the old 60 yr olds a reminder of the good oldance

Should base it on attendance data. Have around 6 home and away sydney v sydney club games a year locked in every year that clubs can pick between them and build up as big events. For most games I dont see a big travelling cohort even when its sydney v sydney, maybe 1 or 2 thousand max?

 

[MugaB]

Should base it on attendance data. Have around 6 home and away sydney v sydney club games a year locked in every year that clubs can pick between them and build up as big events. For most games I dont see a big travelling cohort even when its sydney v sydney, maybe 1 or 2 thousand max?

It wont be... every club needs to play someone, cant all be stuck with 2 titans and 2 shark and 2 canberras, like fmd

 

[Perth Red]

It wont be... every club needs to play someone, cant all be stuck with 2 titans and 2 shark and 2 canberras, like fmd

pretty easy to schedule 12 games as being the clubs pick for rivalry and commercial aspects then 12 games against whoever. Problem is the merkin tv people would pick what should be the big crowd game sand stick them on a Thursday night!

You could almost tier them accordingly by club.

 

[MugaB]

pretty easy to schedule 12 games as being the clubs pick for rivalry and commercial aspects then 12 games against whoever. Problem is the merkin tv people would pick what should be the big crowd game sand stick them on a Thursday night!

You could almost tier them accordingly by club.

Localised derbys are the way to go, just make sure the conferences are built with nearby teams involved, none of this syd vs the rest garbage

 

[Wb1234]

Here's some good news for you, everyone knows Politis is the puppet master behind PVL, put it in your diary Perth will be the 18th team.

Why Politis’ two-conference vision for the NRL includes Perth, not PNG

From inside the swanky Beverly Wilshire Hotel in Los Angeles, the Roosters supremo has outlined his controversial vision for the sport.

www.smh.com.au

9 team Sydney conference = nswrl. Grand final accor
9 team “the rest” conference = super league
Grand final Suncorp

 

[Perth Red]

Localised derbys are the way to go, just make sure the conferences are built with nearby teams involved, none of this syd vs the rest garbage

With only two states with more than one team theres obviously going to be bias to generate local derbies. Again the data needs to be looked at. Is Sths v Cronulla for example more popular to attend than Souths v eels? Qlnd teams will all have to be in one conference.

 

[Perth Red]

9 team Sydney conference = nswrl. Grand final accor
9 team “the rest” conference = super league
Grand final Suncorp

Superbowl in Perth

 

[Wb1234]

Superbowl in Perth

This is why polites is so pro expansion

they want a conference system

20 is a good number or pushing it 24

top five finals system for each

Super Bowl that moves around

 

[Perth Red]

This is why polites is so pro expansion

they want a conference system

20 is a good number or pushing it 24

top five finals system for each

Super Bowl that moves around

Politis is a businessman, he has seen the commercial reality of what games earn the most. Heres a break down of roosters home attendances last year of Sydney teams compared to non sydney teams. Manly aside the other 5 games were by far the most lucrative with non of the visiting teams crowds being close to the all sydney games.

Roosters 2023 home crowds
v Sydney clubs
Rd3 36,639 (Souths)
Rd 5 20,886 (eels)
Rd 8 40,191 (Dragons)
Rd 14 18,388 (Bulldogs)
Rd 23 12,197 (Manly)
Rd 26 22,511 (Wests)


v non sydney clubs
Rd2 16,276 (Warriors)
Rd 17 13,326 (Raiders)
Rd 20 (SCG) 12,021 (Storm)
Rd 24 13,074 (Dolphins)

Only loser is Canberra, all the other conf clubs already travel anyway so not much difference other than a bit longer flight for some games.

 

[Wb1234]

Politis is a businessman, he has seen the commercial reality of what games earn the most. Heres a break down of roosters home attendances last year of Sydney teams compared to non sydney teams. Manly aside the other 5 games were by far the most lucrative with non of the visiting teams crowds being close to the all sydney games.

Roosters 2023 home crowds
v Sydney clubs
Rd3 36,639 (Souths)
Rd 5 20,886 (eels)
Rd 8 40,191 (Dragons)
Rd 14 18,388 (Bulldogs)
Rd 23 12,197 (Manly)
Rd 26 22,511 (Wests)


v non sydney clubs
Rd2 16,276 (Warriors)
Rd 17 13,326 (Raiders)
Rd 20 (SCG) 12,021 (Storm)
Rd 24 13,074 (Dolphins)

Same benefit for qld teams in their conference

plus top five is the fairest system for finals

 

[Perth Red]

Same benefit for qld teams in their conference

plus top five is the fairest system for finals

I could see with 20 teams two conference of 10 with top 5 in each conference cross over finals, maybe at prelim final stage.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Politis is just looking out for his club. What he's suggesting will alienate half of the clubs.

The Bears' "non-negotiables" rules out any possibility of them relocating to Perth, Melbourne or New Zealand.

It's why V'landys is pushing ahead with PNG as his preferred option.

 

[Vlad59]

I guess the thinking is every weekend would be a derby with big crowds.

Currently the games where the away team brings no fans ( eels v storm ) are either taken to the bush or 'promoted' to magic round.

Not playing the QLD teams until semis would lead to huge interest and crowds.

SOO would be even bigger if it's the only time during the regular season the NSW players played the QLD players

If you are a Canberra or Newcastle fan the proposal stinks

 

[Perth Red]

Politis is just looking out for his club. What he's suggesting will alienate half of the clubs.

The Bears' "non-negotiables" rules out any possibility of them relocating to Perth, Melbourne or New Zealand.

It's why V'landys is pushing ahead with PNG as his preferred option.

In what way? Im not sugetsing its a good idea but interested why people think it isnt. Only down side I can think of are lack of FTa covg as Sydney media will juts want to show sydney games, and makes signing players a bit inequitable as sydney clubs will do much less travel than other clubs.

Potentially you could have two conferences, one NSW with clubs playing 5 clubs in their comp home and away, the other 4 home or away alternating each year, then every club in the other conference home or away alternating each year. Measn you will play every club at home and every club within every two years.

So say Im souths in NSW conf

I play in my conference
Roosters H&A
Bulldogs H&A
Eels H&A
Wests H&A
Penrith H&A
Knights A
Manly H
Cronulla A
St George H

And the other conference
Melbourne A
Perth H
Brisbane A
Warriors H
Christchurch A
Dolphins H
NQ A
Canberra H
PNG A
Gold Coast H

 

[blue bags]

Western Force. Perth
Southern Brumbies. Melbourne
Playing games in Melbourne. Adelaide. Perth
Hobart. Canberra

 

[Perth Red]

A perth team might have in its conf games:

Brisbane H&A
Melbourne H&A
Christchurch H&A
Warriors H&A
Dolphins H&A
Canberra H
PNG A
NQ H
Gold Coast A

then
Souths A
Roosters H
Knights A
Sharks H
Manly A
Panthers H
St's A
Eels H
Wests A
Bulldogs H

The H&A fixtures same every season, the others alternate home and away each year.