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18th club, whose next?

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which clubs? only one I remember that was against them was the Titans. Even the Broncos were ok with the Dolphins.

Twelve of the 16 NRL clubs were sufficiently concerned about the potential impacts of a new franchise that they stumped up about $7000 each to commission a report into the matter. While there would be some benefits to the game as a whole – in the form of additional games and revenue – the research by consultancy company GEMBA found it wasn’t sufficient to offset the damage to existing clubs, particularly those in Queensland.

A 17th club would bring in between $13 million and $25 million in additional broadcast funding, while non-broadcast revenue would increase by $2.5 million to $8.7 million. However, several clubs the Herald has spoken to believe that the status quo should remain unless there is a guarantee that an extra $30 million to $40 million is there to be distributed.

For a new club to be sustainable, it would cost $23.6 million to run and would need to make $10 million a year. It would also require what GEMBA describes as 148,000 “fanatical” supporters, as well as 10,000 members, to be viable. In order to do so, the new franchise would likely need to take fans from existing clubs, while there will be further competition for sponsors, players and other human talent.

The findings are of particular concern to the Broncos, Titans and Cowboys, who are already struggling on the field. The research states that existing clubs could lose up to three players from their roster if a 17th team is given the green light, further diluting talent and adversely affecting the quality of matches.

So concerned are some club bosses, that there have been discussions about engaging legal assistance to review the ARL Commission constitution with a view to finding a lever to block expansion. The Herald has been told the existing clubs don’t have veto power over the issue, but they could seek to introduce it via a special general meeting, at which amendments to the constitution can be introduced. However, such a development would require the 16 clubs and two state bodies to be in alignment, which is an unlikely outcome.

The upsides to expansion include an increase in viewing numbers of between 3 per cent and 10 per cent, a projected 5 per cent increase in match-day attendances and a boost of between 4 per cent and 7 per cent in television audiences.

However, the report concludes that the extra costs and risks don’t make it an appealing enough proposition.


Their concerns turned out to be bullshit.

Can you now see why the clubs are in favour of Perth?

They think it will have the least impact on them. Clubs are selfish.
 

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It really does sound like PNG, Perth & NZ 2 (likely Christchurch) as teams 18, 19 & 20 doesn't it?

Quite possibly in that order - but I wouldn't be surprised if two of them (maybe Perth & NZ 2) debut together, or in VERY quick succession.
Will depend on next tv deal. If it’s big enough I can see the 20 team plan being put in place for 20 clubs by the new tv deal in 2033. 2027 team 18. 2029/30 team 19, 2031/32 team 20. I dont believe all this turbo charge bs. It’s not the nrls way.

unless, lol, the nrl signs a longer deal for 2028. Let’s say they follow afl on go for an 8 year deal, in theory they could push 20 clubs in as part of that deal so they had 10 game as part of the deal from say 2030/31. That would need some turbo charging then.

2027 team 18
2029 team 19
2031 team 20
on a 7 year deal from 2028;
that would give 9 games for 1 year of new deal
9 games + 12 extra games for 2 years of new deal
10 games for 4 years of new deal
 

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You laugh, but you've said numerous times that it's the club bosses and the 2 states that will decide who comes in next.
Donkey, after coaches said they want perth ‘club bosses will decide not coaches’
donkey after coaches and club bosses say it should be Perth ‘nrl won’t listen to clubs’

he's so predictable! lol
 

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Twelve of the 16 NRL clubs were sufficiently concerned about the potential impacts of a new franchise that they stumped up about $7000 each to commission a report into the matter. While there would be some benefits to the game as a whole – in the form of additional games and revenue – the research by consultancy company GEMBA found it wasn’t sufficient to offset the damage to existing clubs, particularly those in Queensland.​
A 17th club would bring in between $13 million and $25 million in additional broadcast funding, while non-broadcast revenue would increase by $2.5 million to $8.7 million. However, several clubs the Herald has spoken to believe that the status quo should remain unless there is a guarantee that an extra $30 million to $40 million is there to be distributed.​
For a new club to be sustainable, it would cost $23.6 million to run and would need to make $10 million a year. It would also require what GEMBA describes as 148,000 “fanatical” supporters, as well as 10,000 members, to be viable. In order to do so, the new franchise would likely need to take fans from existing clubs, while there will be further competition for sponsors, players and other human talent.​
The findings are of particular concern to the Broncos, Titans and Cowboys, who are already struggling on the field. The research states that existing clubs could lose up to three players from their roster if a 17th team is given the green light, further diluting talent and adversely affecting the quality of matches.​
So concerned are some club bosses, that there have been discussions about engaging legal assistance to review the ARL Commission constitution with a view to finding a lever to block expansion. The Herald has been told the existing clubs don’t have veto power over the issue, but they could seek to introduce it via a special general meeting, at which amendments to the constitution can be introduced. However, such a development would require the 16 clubs and two state bodies to be in alignment, which is an unlikely outcome.​
The upsides to expansion include an increase in viewing numbers of between 3 per cent and 10 per cent, a projected 5 per cent increase in match-day attendances and a boost of between 4 per cent and 7 per cent in television audiences.​
However, the report concludes that the extra costs and risks don’t make it an appealing enough proposition.​

Their concerns turned out to be bullshit.

Can you now see why the clubs are in favour of Perth?

They think it will have the least impact on them. Clubs are selfish.
Yeh it only cost Vlandys $5mill a club to buy their agreement lol
12 of the 17 clubs want perth in, it’s an easy sell this time for him.
 

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You do realise that V'landys wants PNG to get the 18th licence, right?

He doesn't give a f**k about the 12 clubs who are looking out for themselves.
He wants govt money, I doubt very much he thinks png is a great idea either. Looks likely png will be club 18 Unless there is a change of govt spend.
clubs don’t want it, only 1 thinks it’s a good idea. Tv won’t want it, it offers nothing to them. He’ll have to offer them both something I’d suggest to make it happen.
if we go to 20 clubs it looks very likely it will be Christchurch and perth in.

surely if clubs are looking out for themselves then PNG would be the least impacting choice on them? Perth will be in the same player market and national sponsors market as they are. PNG offers no competition to them at all, and likely on the field will be weak as well. If it was all about self interest PNG would be the preference choice of clubs.
 
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Donkey, after coaches said they want perth ‘club bosses will decide not coaches’
donkey after coaches and club bosses say it should be Perth ‘nrl won’t listen to clubs’

he's so predictable! lol
Yesterday you said V'landys won't care about Ch9's concerns. Today you posted a quote from him saying their opinion matters because the broadcasters provide four-fifths of the game's revenue.
 

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Yesterday you said V'landys won't care about Ch9's concerns. Today you posted a quote from him saying their opinion matters because the broadcasters provide four-fifths of the game's revenue.
That comment was in regards to comp structure, not location of new clubs. I doubt Australian tv is falling over itself at the prospect of PNg and nz2 clubs joining the comp. Warriors are one of the lowest rated clubs on Australian tv.
 

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