18th club, whose next?

[Iamback]

Well that's expansion versus consolidation. Expansion comes with risks. Getting the locals 100% behind the new club is the best way to start.

Yes but again locals aren't going to watching away game at 4pm on Friday.

Nor will they bring any fans to those games. So as the clubs will be the ones who vote, some sort of merger might be the only way Perth is in this lot of expansion.

Newtown ( Well John Singleton ) had doubts over the local interest in his rant to the paper the other week.

Brisbane Easts will wait for Brisbane 3.

So who is left? Should the Bears not be a viable option

 

[Wb1234]

If fhe Bears got a controlling stake in the licence then they could shift the club to Sydney. There's nothing the ARLC could do about it.

Yes but they aren’t

stop making up straw men arguments

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

At least the Perth Bears won't split their home games in the mad way that Wests Tigers are, trying to appease fans who prefer Leichardt, those who prefer Campbelltown AND those drawn to the modern facilities at Parramatta (including corporates).

The current proposal looks to be for one home game per year at NSO. ONE only.

Ideally it'd all be Perth home games, but one at NSO is tenable.

You can't compare Wests Tigers & Perth Bears (as the bid appears to be shaping up now) as there's increasing awareness from the Norths side that it needs to be Perth-focused.

Merged entities chip and change their strategy on an almost yearly basis.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

First boss of the indep arlc was from qld

exactly because they didn’t want to be perceived to be Sydney centric

heck even a former qld premier became boss as well. Shame he didn’t know the Cronulla sharks were an nrl side

Isn’t pvl Brisbane centric by adding a small qrl side to the nrl ?

Grant was a puppet. The clubs and media worked together to get him to do their bidding

 

[Bukowski]

Yes but again locals aren't going to watching awayi game at 4pm on Friday.

Nor will they bring any fans to those games. So as the clubs will be the ones who vote, some sort of merger might be the only way Perth is in this lot of expansion.

Newtown ( Well John Singleton ) had doubts over the local interest in his rant to the paper the other week.

Brisbane Easts will wait for Brisbane 3.

So who is left? Should the Bears not be a viable option

I hadn't heard one club exec day they want the bears back, or that Perth had to be with the bears.
60% of a poll had them wanting Perth to be the next in with no mention of the bears.
The only ones Ive heard comment is Gus saying Perth should be stand alone and the Dolphins CEO saying a merger would be a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sydney teams with the NSWRL added Canberra and Illawarra in 1982 and then added Brisbane, Newcastle and Gold Goast Giants in 1988 then became the ARL then went on to become the NRL with others teams being added, merged and being discarded over the years.
The Hostplus QLD Cup is the alternate to the Knock On Effect NSW Cup but in all honestly their top teams just don’t measure up to the standard of the NSW Cup.
I have spoken to players who have played in both and this is their opinion.
They say the NSW Cup is more professional and that the QLD Cup is like a Country Competition in comparison.
I know plenty of players in the Hostplus Competition having coached them and against them at club and representative level Cooper Page-Wilson (Wynnum-Manly Seagulls), Jaron Purcell (Redcliffe Dolphins), Bennett Leslie (Brisbane Tigers), Nicholas O’Meley (Burleigh Bears), Ryan Jones (Burleigh Bears), Corey Fenning (Clydesdales), Kyle Schneider (Northern Pride), Morgan McWhirter (Townsville Blackhawks), Jacob McCudden (Tweed Seagulls), Tom Steadman (Tweed Seagulls), Harry Croker (Tweed Seagulls), Toby Marks (Tweed Seagulls) and Jakob Kernick (Tweed Seagulls).
I personally look forward to the State Championship match every year on NRL Grand Final day.
There have been 8 matches, NSW Cup have won 6 to QLD Cup 2, QLD Cup won the first two which were close games, NSW Cup teams with the exception of 2019’s Newtown Jets v Burleigh Bears 20-16 result have won by an average of twenty points.

Newtown stole a game against Burleigh via a lucky bounce on full time.

The reason NSW Cup clubs are stronger is because they're reserve grade teams for 12 or 13 NRL clubs. The balance of power shifted to the NSW Cup when squad sizes for NRL clubs increased.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Yes but they aren’t

stop making up straw men arguments

Regardless of how much power they have in the merger, they'll always agitate for more games at NSO. The media will be their cheerleader.

FMD wests and Balmain had two identities

they merged those into one

Perth has no identity

it’s nothing like the three jv that were tried in Sydney

it’s basically what the swans did

except they have a leagues club on top

Hold on. A few posts ago you said North Sydney won't have a controlling stake.

Now you're saying they'll run the whole thing?

 

[Wb1234]

Regardless of how much power they have in the merger, they'll always agitate for more games at NSO. The media will be their cheerleader.


Hold on. A few posts ago you said North Sydney won't have a controlling stake.

Now you're saying they'll run the whole thing?

Nope

bears will have a minority shareholding

probably 20 percent maybe 40

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

FMD wests and Balmain had two identities

they merged those into one

Perth has no identity

it’s nothing like the three jv that were tried in Sydney

it’s basically what the swans did

except they have a leagues club on top

Hold on. A few posts ago you said North Sydney won't have a controlling stake.

Now you're saying they'll run the whole thing?

Nope

bears will have a minority shareholding

probably 20 percent maybe 40

We don't know what will happen.

 

[Steel Saints]

If fhe Bears got a controlling stake in the licence then they could shift the club to Sydney. There's nothing the ARLC could do about it.

If the Bears have controlling stake, then the ARLC should not grant them entry into the competition. I don't think the Sydney clubs would agree to those conditions.

 

[Bukowski]

Nope

bears will have a minority shareholding

probably 20 percent maybe 40

So not like your swans?

 

[Iamback]

I hadn't heard one club exec day they want the bears back, or that Perth had to be with the bears.
60% of a poll had them wanting Perth to be the next in with no mention of the bears.
The only ones Ive heard comment is Gus saying Perth should be stand alone and the Dolphins CEO saying a merger would be a disaster waiting to happen.

Not a NRL club exec but the QRL boss who said this

Others have mentioned Pathways as being a concern. That is probably why the clubs haven't gotten off the ground

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Nope

bears will have a minority shareholding

probably 20 percent maybe 40

Stop making shit up.

 

[Bukowski]

Not a NRL club exec but the QRL boss who said this

Others have mentioned Pathways as being a concern. That is probably why the clubs haven't gotten off the ground

He wants to move an existing NRL club?!

 

[Wb1234]

Not a NRL club exec but the QRL boss who said this

Others have mentioned Pathways as being a concern. That is probably why the clubs haven't gotten off the ground

Not a NRL club exec but the QRL boss who said this

Others have mentioned Pathways as being a concern. That is probably why the clubs haven't gotten off the ground

That dope said he wouldn’t support Perth bears because the bears are based in. Sydney but he was happy Perth linking up with the jets

 

[MugaB]

Merged entities chip and change their strategy on an almost yearly basis.

It's not a merger

 

[MugaB]

That dope said he wouldn’t support Perth bears because the bears are based in. Sydney but he was happy Perth linking up with the jets

He will never be happy till Logan has a team FFS

it's PR 2.0 all over again

 

[Iamback]

He wants to move an existing NRL club?!

Yes and if that isn't possible? The reasons it being a good idea are still valid

 

[Bukowski]

Yes and if that isn't possible? The reasons it being a good idea are still valid

I don't see what a qrl exec wanting to reduce the amount of Sydney clubs had to do with it? He didnt say he wants the bears to go to Perth?

 

[Wb1234]

Hahha hahhaa