18th club, whose next?

[MugaB]

Keep thinking 20th team maybe a Fiji based team

 

[Perth Red]

Wasn't one of the courier mail articles some weeks/months ago, saying that Brisbane was blocked out due to the last one being there, could've sworn Peter badel stating that

Didnt notice that. Id be surprised for club 20. That would be potentially 7-9 years after Dolphin KO?
Having said that if the media is to be believed and it is Perth then PNG I really really hope club 20 is Christchurch and we dont spend it on another heartland area.

 

[MugaB]

Didnt notice that. Id be surprised for club 20. That would be potentially 7-9 years after Dolphin KO?
Having said that if the media is to be believed and it is Perth then PNG I really really hope club 20 is Christchurch and we dont spend it on another heartland area.

That new Chch stadium is the only reason it's getting considered... these bidders from nz are poo
Nothing to suggest anything is real about them, whilst the east tigers sweat away and take the bears hibernation title.... be smart eastsTs, move to become Adelaide FFs, you'll be straight in like flynn

 

[Perth Red]

That new Chch stadium is the only reason it's getting considered... these bidders from nz are poo
Nothing to suggest anything is real about them, whilst the east tigers sweat away and take the bears hibernation title.... be smart eastsTs, move to become Adelaide FFs, you'll be straight in like flynn

yeh they havent engendered confidance for sure. Ones a great grassroots movement but has no money. The others experienced sports administrators but some with less than glowing track records and again little sense of where the moneys coming from.
There was talk of a third christchurch bid of big money backers. Maybe thats the one?
If Cumins $30mill start up cost is accurate then its a fair bit of investment to raise for a business that only turns over $1-2mill profit in a good year.

 

[Pippen94]

Where's Easts Tigers at in all this expansion chatter? Have they given up or quietly putting a bid in to be team 20 in 2030?
Strange we haven't heard anything from them about their plans since they suggested they could partner with PNG in Oct last year. Has Richardson's departure signaled the end of their NRL ambitions?

There's a gag order

 

[MugaB]

yeh they havent engendered confidance for sure. Ones a great grassroots movement but has no money. The others experienced sports administrators but some with less than glowing track records and again little sense of where the moneys coming from.
There was talk of a third christchurch bid of big money backers. Maybe thats the one?
If Cumins $30mill start up cost is accurate then its a fair bit of investment to raise for a business that only turns over $1-2mill profit in a good year.

They'd (3 nz consorts) would be better served to join as one, they would be the equivalent of the jets/bombers/firehawks of last expansion, if they put aside their individual BS and collectively got together, again the ONLY reason they are even being considered is because of the stadium, sooner they make it a proper proposal with no downsides of lack of history/grassroots, funds or branding

 

[Perth Red]

They'd (3 nz consorts) would be better served to join as one, they would be the equivalent of the jets/bombers/firehawks of last expansion, if they put aside their individual BS and collectively got together

there in lies the problem, partnerships are not easy to make work! Each wants control and thinks theres is the best way. Dragons, Tigers and Northern Eagles have show us that. Where AFL got it right was not creating partnerships but effectively creating new clubs with new single owners but using established brands. A reason I still have much trepidation about the Perth Bears, business marriages rarely last!

 

[MugaB]

Didnt notice that. Id be surprised for club 20. That would be potentially 7-9 years after Dolphin KO?
Having said that if the media is to be believed and it is Perth then PNG I really really hope club 20 is Christchurch and we dont spend it on another heartland area.

Here's the article by Peter badel, Brisbane blockout

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/brisbane-tigers-nrl-expansion-hopes-hit-with-potentially-fatal-blow-as-qld-facing-blackout/news-story/97933fa01abdc4174e18b1cde526b999%3famp

We have it somewhere here on the threads

 

[MugaB]

there in lies the problem, partnerships are not easy to make work! Each wants control and thinks theres is the best way. Dragons, Tigers and Northern Eagles have show us that. Where AFL got it right was not creating partnerships but effectively creating new clubs with new single owners but using established brands. A reason I still have much trepidation about the Perth Bears, business marriages rarely last!

Different kettle those NRL mergers, Perth is not a merger, again you are one entity, bears your moniker, colors of red, black, etc ... the business run by wa, played in wa... not two clubs, maybe ownership is an issue, but that's not a merger, that's just who is and how many owners/percentage of influence...
That happens at Parra, bulldogs, souths, Penrith, don't have to be a merger team to have boardroom antics

 

[Pippen94]

They'd (3 nz consorts) would be better served to join as one, they would be the equivalent of the jets/bombers/firehawks of last expansion, if they put aside their individual BS and collectively got together, again the ONLY reason they are even being considered is because of the stadium, sooner they make it a proper proposal with no downsides of lack of history/grassroots, funds or branding

There are 5 kiwi bids

 

[MugaB]

There are 5 kiwi bids

All in chch? If not then don't correct me hawhaw
I meant the Christchurch ones

 

[Sir Donald Reacharound]

...business marriages rarely last!

In late April 1945 Adolf Hitler married Eva Braun in a small civil ceremony.

Within 48 hours he shot himself in the head.

Marriage is hard.

 

[Centy Coast]

Is that from an article? Any specific reason?

Yes the article I posted about the Dolphins boss being in full support of Perth being the 18th team.

 

[Centy Coast]

Where's Easts Tigers at in all this expansion chatter? Have they given up or quietly putting a bid in to be team 20 in 2030?
Strange we haven't heard anything from them about their plans since they suggested they could partner with PNG in Oct last year. Has Richardson's departure signaled the end of their NRL ambitions?

Geez those guys would jump into bed with anybody lol

 

[MugaB]

In late April 1945 Adolf Hitler married Eva Braun in a small civil ceremony.

Within 48 hours he shot himself in the head.

Marriage is hard.

Careful the racist getridofthedronkey will get upset that you favor croats over nazis, might even get some bloated history lesson in world war 2 that has zero to do with expansion in the NRL, yet somehow is solved with granting a licence to east tigers only

 

[Perth Red]

Different kettle those NRL mergers, Perth is not a merger, again you are one entity, bears your moniker, colors of red, black, etc ... the business run by wa, played in wa... not two clubs, maybe ownership is an issue, but that's not a merger, that's just who is and how many owners/percentage of influence...
That happens at Parra, bulldogs, souths, Penrith, don't have to be a merger team to have boardroom antics

it is very much 2 ownership entities. The WA consortium and the NSFC. Both will presumably sit on the board and no doubt there will be points of conflict . For example say in a couple of years the club wants to move the nsw cup team to be based in perth because it wants more emphasis on WA jnr pathways, but that is seriously detrimental to the NSFC. I can think of a myriad possible points of conflict re brand and pathways where the two ownership groups could be at loggerheads.

 

[MugaB]

it is very much 2 ownership entities. The WA consortium and the NSFC. Both will presumably sit on the board and no doubt there will be points of conflict . For example say in a couple of years the club wants to move the nsw cup team to be based in perth because it wants more emphasis on WA jnr pathways, but that is seriously detrimental to the NSFC. I can think of a myriad possible points of conflict re brand and pathways where the two ownership groups could be at loggerheads.

This \/

In late April 1945 Adolf Hitler married Eva Braun in a small civil ceremony.

Within 48 hours he shot himself in the head.

Marriage is hard.

Make it work PR, don't throw the bath water out with the baby

 

[Perth Red]

This \/

Make it work PR, don't throw the bath water out with the baby

just saying the track record isn't good in these forced situations! Those who ignore history etc etc

 

[MugaB]

just saying the track record isn't good in these forced situations! Those who ignore history etc etc

Better get Ivan Cleary as you coach then, if history is what you want

 

[Perth Red]

Better get Ivan Cleary as you coach then, if history is what you want

isnt he ex Bears? Maybe he and his son fancy a better life living somewhere nice for a change?