18th club, whose next?

[Gobsmacked]

I live here now and have sponsored multiple junior clubs therefore as a perk get free tickets or corporate boxes to Suncorp and at times Gabba mainly due to cricket. Plenty of fans around. Nothing like Broncos, never was a comparison or will be a comparison but when Roar or Reds or Lions were doing well Suncorp and Gabba was much fuller than when those sides suck.

I don’t understand the attempted argument here considering Brisbane wants to be a town where all their sporting sides are competitive and well supported.

Brisbane-ites back a winner and disappear when they become losers.

I actually don't even understand your point. Yes there’s more support when there’s success- exciting insight !
You go to the Gabba and the Lions club.. makes you think that the Lions are a thing.. they're not.

 

[Iamback]

1965 and 1994

If the NRL had any credibility as a NATIONAL governing body the Dolphins' two first grade premierships are just as legitimate as the Bears' two from 1920 and 1921 when they were playing in cow paddocks

They have to confirm the make up of the Perth Bears to see if they take those 2 with them.

The comp is the same comp, Just has added new teams. No issue with Balmain etc on there

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I actually don't even understand your point. Yes there’s more support when there’s success- exciting insight !
You go to the Gabba and the Lions club.. makes you think that the Lions are a thing.. they're not.

Point is the sport is a thing here. It’s not the biggest but it also never claimed to be. But to say no one cares for it is wrong, regardless of if it’s a shit sport or not. I say this with supreme confidence because my network stretches much further than some bloke who lived in a city for only 4 years or another bloke who doesn’t even know that the biggest local sports club in the very suburb he lives in is the very sport he says isn’t a thing.

In short from a general life and a business point of view I mingle with a shitload of people and can say a lot of them barrack for the sport you blokes say isn’t a thing. A lot of them are rugby league fans first and foremost but that doesn’t mean they don’t support other local sports clubs especially when said clubs are winning including bounce ball. For the record it’s not my jam either but to insinuate it’s not a thing here in Brisbane especially after they just won a GF is completely and utterly incorrect.

You simply decided to add your 2 cents half way through a debate without reading the initial post or reply to.

It isn’t that deep. It’s very easy to understand.

 

[Matt_CBY]

1965 and 1994

If the NRL had any credibility as a NATIONAL governing body the Dolphins' two first grade premierships are just as legitimate as the Bears' two from 1920 and 1921 when they were playing in cow paddocks

Keep whinging. Wahhhhh

 

[Gobsmacked]

Point is the sport is a thing here. It’s not the biggest but it also never claimed to be. But to say no one cares for it is wrong, regardless of if it’s a shit sport or not. I say this with supreme confidence because my network stretches much further than some bloke who lived in a city for only 4 years or another bloke who doesn’t even know that the biggest local sports club in the very suburb he lives in is the very sport he says isn’t a thing.

In short from a general life and a business point of view I mingle with a shitload of people and can say a lot of them barrack for the sport you blokes say isn’t a thing. A lot of them are rugby league fans first and foremost but that doesn’t mean they don’t support other local sports clubs especially when said clubs are winning including bounce ball. For the record it’s not my jam either but to insinuate it’s not a thing here in Brisbane especially after they just won a GF is completely and utterly incorrect.

You simply decided to add your 2 cents half way through a debate without reading the initial post or reply to.

It isn’t that deep. It’s very easy to understand.

Whatever pal

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Riveting stuff.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

Whatever pal

All good. Some of your opinions are gold, you just don’t have this one right that’s all or NZ2 being favourites in expansion for that matter. Water off a ducks back.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Point is the sport is a thing here. It’s not the biggest but it also never claimed to be.

''We’ll be the biggest sport in that market in 5-10 years across most metrics. It is changing. Queensland is pumping and becoming an AFL state'' - former AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan

 

[titoelcolombiano]

You keep believing in your fairy tales buddy whilst being scared of the invisible monster. It’s a thing and it’s got its supporters. These people exist whether you like it or not. For the most part a lot of them are Broncos fans as well.

The irony is that the biggest local sports clubs in Mt Gravatt (your area) is the Vultures (afl) followed by Hawks (soccer). Shows how much you actually know about your own city and the support various clubs and sports here have.


Says the people who live here and have a sense of local pride. When the local teams are winning they show up, doesn’t matter the sport. However when teams suck that’s when only true supporters stick around and for the most part that’s Rugby League but even then it’s not 100% immune.

AFL contra at work. No one gives a f**k about AFL here. Check the TV ratings

 

[titoelcolombiano]

They have to confirm the make up of the Perth Bears to see if they take those 2 with them.

The comp is the same comp, Just has added new teams. No issue with Balmain etc on there

I mean the North Sydney Bears, not even referring to their Perth iteration . If their first grade premierships count from 1920 & 21, then the Dolphins legitimate first grade comps from 1965 and 1994 count.

The ARL and later National Rugby League was formed to represent the whole country, not just the NSWRL.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

AFL contra at work. No one gives a f**k about AFL here. Check the TV ratings

NRL TV ratings are flying.

But you said that AFL isn’t a thing in Brisbane and I said you’re wrong. This was never about which code is more supported so don’t try to change the point of the topic which you brought up by saying it isn’t a thing here.

Lions (36,000) & Suns (21,000) combined average crowd is 57,000.

Broncos (39,875) & Titans (16,240) combined average is 56,115.

However when you add Dolphins (23,940) into the mix that’s when the RL average sky rockets to 80,055. Much higher than AFL.

Like I said, Brisbane-ites turn up to see local clubs when they’re going well. Considering the difference is only 4,000 between Lions and Broncos in 2024 proves this. Once Broncos play abit better I’m sure their average will rise to above 42,000 and conversely when Lions drop back down their average will dip below 30,000.

But right here, right now. It’s a thing and whatever you think, it doesn’t matter because you’re factually wrong. If it wasn’t a thing wtf would 36,000 people on average turn up to Lions games or almost half a million in Brisbane region tune in for the GF?

It’s a thing mate, like it or loath it who gives a f**k. That’s all I’m trying to say to you, it was never a code vs code debate. It’s more a don’t talk nonsense debate.

Lastly, considering you clearly don’t even know what local suburban sports clubs are in the very suburb you live in. If you have kids, maybe you can consider signing them up to Easts Mt Gravatt Eagles JRL. They need players. At the moment Hawks Soccer and Vultures AFL are taking on juniors in droves.

 

[jim_57]

NRL TV ratings are flying.

But you said that AFL isn’t a thing in Brisbane and I said you’re wrong. This was never about which code is more supported so don’t try to change the point of the topic which you brought up by saying it isn’t a thing here.

Lions (36,000) & Suns (21,000) combined average crowd is 57,000.

Broncos (39,875) & Titans (16,240) combined average is 56,115.

However when you add Dolphins (23,940) into the mix that’s when the RL average sky rockets to 80,055. Much higher than AFL.

Like I said, Brisbane-ites turn up to see local clubs when they’re going well. Considering the difference is only 4,000 between Lions and Broncos in 2024 proves this. Once Broncos play abit better I’m sure their average will rise to above 42,000 and conversely when Lions drop back down their average will dip below 30,000.

But right here, right now. It’s a thing and whatever you think, it doesn’t matter because you’re factually wrong. If it wasn’t a thing wtf would 36,000 people on average turn up to Lions games or almost half a million in Brisbane region tune in for the GF?

It’s a thing mate, like it or loath it who gives a f**k. That’s all I’m trying to say to you, it was never a code vs code debate. It’s more a don’t talk nonsense debate.

Lastly, considering you clearly don’t even know what local suburban sports clubs are in the very suburb you live in. If you have kids, maybe you can consider signing them up to Easts Mt Gravatt Eagles JRL. They need players. At the moment Hawks Soccer and Vultures AFL are taking on juniors in droves.

Those AFL averages are way off. Lions averaged 29,045. Suns averaged 15,063.

Those include out of town home games so I’ll refine that to be fair to AFL. Lions averaged 30,864 from 11 games in Brisbane, Suns averaged 16,919 from 9 games on the Coast.

 

[Gobsmacked]

I mean the North Sydney Bears, not even referring to their Perth iteration . If their first grade premierships count from 1920 & 21, then the Dolphins legitimate first grade comps from 1965 and 1994 count.

The ARL and later National Rugby League was formed to represent the whole country, not just the NSWRL.

NRL TV ratings are flying.

But you said that AFL isn’t a thing in Brisbane and I said you’re wrong. This was never about which code is more supported so don’t try to change the point of the topic which you brought up by saying it isn’t a thing here.

Lions (36,000) & Suns (21,000) combined average crowd is 57,000.

Broncos (39,875) & Titans (16,240) combined average is 56,115.

However when you add Dolphins (23,940) into the mix that’s when the RL average sky rockets to 80,055. Much higher than AFL.

Like I said, Brisbane-ites turn up to see local clubs when they’re going well. Considering the difference is only 4,000 between Lions and Broncos in 2024 proves this. Once Broncos play abit better I’m sure their average will rise to above 42,000 and conversely when Lions drop back down their average will dip below 30,000.

But right here, right now. It’s a thing and whatever you think, it doesn’t matter because you’re factually wrong. If it wasn’t a thing wtf would 36,000 people on average turn up to Lions games or almost half a million in Brisbane region tune in for the GF?

It’s a thing mate, like it or loath it who gives a f**k. That’s all I’m trying to say to you, it was never a code vs code debate. It’s more a don’t talk nonsense debate.

Lastly, considering you clearly don’t even know what local suburban sports clubs are in the very suburb you live in. If you have kids, maybe you can consider signing them up to Easts Mt Gravatt Eagles JRL. They need players. At the moment Hawks Soccer and Vultures AFL are taking on juniors in droves.

I lived there very recently for 4 years, worked all over- never once stumbled into a conversation or even overheard a conversation about AFL , never been in a pub anywhere in Brisbane where someone was watching AFL on a TV - every single TV would always be on League. There's nobody ever seen wearing AFL gear- never.
I have friends and family in Brisbane, never had a conversation with any of them about AFL.
next to nobody besides Victorian expats actively follow AFL.
"Oh, look the Lions won the GF again " doesn't make it a thing.

BTW there's a term called " soccer mum" perhaps you've heard of it?

And AFL is game that is always well attended, it's better live than on TV where League is opposite . The NRL is currently the most watched code on TV but doesn't come close to AFL in attendance, so it's a useless metric.

I wonder who dominating the newspaper there atm ... would it be the Lions because just days ago won the GF !!! or the Broncs that didn't make the finals and hasn't played for months?? I'd be guessing but my money would be on the Broncs being on the back page ...

 

[AlwaysGreen]

The loins are as popular in Brisbane as the bears are anywhere.

 

[Red&BlackBear]

I lived there very recently for 4 years, worked all over- never once stumbled into a conversation or even overheard a conversation about AFL , never been in a pub anywhere in Brisbane where someone was watching AFL on a TV - every single TV would always be on League. There's nobody ever seen wearing AFL gear- never.
I have friends and family in Brisbane, never had a conversation with any of them about AFL.
next to nobody besides Victorian expats actively follow AFL.
"Oh, look the Lions won the GF again " doesn't make it a thing.

BTW there's a term called " soccer mum" perhaps you've heard of it?

And AFL is game that is always well attended, it's better live than on TV where League is opposite . The NRL is currently the most watched code on TV but doesn't come close to AFL in attendance, so it's a useless metric.

I wonder who dominating the newspaper there atm ... would it be the Lions because just days ago won the GF !!! or the Broncs that didn't make the finals and hasn't played for months?? I'd be guessing but my money would be on the Broncs being on the back page ...

And yet they’ve had increasing crowds last few years and averaged 36,000 all year this year way before they even looked like being a GF team. I’ve lived on and off here for 36 years which by far trumps your 4 years. The game used to not be a thing here true; then more and more fields and junior clubs starting appearing. Especially after the Lions three-peat in early-00’s is when it took off.

If by wearing jerseys is your metric then you’re off the pace.

You claim pubs don’t show AFL here which is ridiculous. Pubs have multiple TVs. Usually with Multiple screens showing horse and dog races for TAB, League and AFL playing on different screens and some will even play NFL, EPL and other sports depending on the day/time. This includes the number 1 rugby league pub, the Caxton Hotel! This isn’t some shock revelation, it’s just what it is.

Finally there are 53 predominant junior rugby league clubs in Brisbane/Greater Brisbane (with multiple age groups within those 53 clubs). There are 47 predominant junior AFL clubs in the same catchment (with multiple age groups within those 47 clubs).

Yes league is the supreme sport and yes the numbers are better. That goes without question. But to suggest AFL isn’t a thing in Brisbane is ridiculous and not true. Basically it’s the same as you suggesting soccer is also not a thing here or cricket. The data does not work in your favour and just because the numbers are lower than RL all it means is yes it is a thing in Brisbane , just not on the size of rugby league. Which was never the debate to begin with.

 

[Matt_CBY]

I mean the North Sydney Bears, not even referring to their Perth iteration . If their first grade premierships count from 1920 & 21, then the Dolphins legitimate first grade comps from 1965 and 1994 count.

In the context of what you’re replying to that isn’t even logical.

Keep crying though. It’s entertaining.

 

[Iamback]

I mean the North Sydney Bears, not even referring to their Perth iteration . If their first grade premierships count from 1920 & 21, then the Dolphins legitimate first grade comps from 1965 and 1994 count.

The ARL and later National Rugby League was formed to represent the whole country, not just the NSWRL.

The NSWRL handing the running of their competition over to the ARL, The records and everything moved across too. QRL didn't and stayed a different comp.

 

[Matt_CBY]

The NSWRL handing the running of their competition over to the ARL, The records and everything moved across too. QRL didn't and stayed a different comp.

Oh the logic

 

[Gobsmacked]

And yet they’ve had increasing crowds last few years and averaged 36,000 all year this year way before they even looked like being a GF team. I’ve lived on and off here for 36 years which by far trumps your 4 years. The game used to not be a thing here true; then more and more fields and junior clubs starting appearing. Especially after the Lions three-peat in early-00’s is when it took off.

If by wearing jerseys is your metric then you’re off the pace.

You claim pubs don’t show AFL here which is ridiculous. Pubs have multiple TVs. Usually with Multiple screens showing horse and dog races for TAB, League and AFL playing on different screens and some will even play NFL, EPL and other sports depending on the day/time. This includes the number 1 rugby league pub, the Caxton Hotel! This isn’t some shock revelation, it’s just what it is.

Finally there are 53 predominant junior rugby league clubs in Brisbane/Greater Brisbane (with multiple age groups within those 53 clubs). There are 47 predominant junior AFL clubs in the same catchment (with multiple age groups within those 47 clubs).

Yes league is the supreme sport and yes the numbers are better. That goes without question. But to suggest AFL isn’t a thing in Brisbane is ridiculous and not true. Basically it’s the same as you suggesting soccer is also not a thing here or cricket. The data does not work in your favour and just because the numbers are lower than RL all it means is yes it is a thing in Brisbane , just not on the size of rugby league. Which was never the debate to begin with.

OK, it's a thing, like soccer and rock climbing.
I guess we're talking about a different thing lol

 

[Red&BlackBear]

In the context of what you’re replying to that isn’t even logical.

Keep crying though. It’s entertaining.

NSWRL - great granddad
ARL - granddad
NRL - dad

Like suggesting one’s granddad isn’t family because they have a different last name. Even though by blood without them, there’s no you.