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1ST ASHES TEST: England v Australia at Nottingham Jul 10-14, 2013

TheParraboy

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The game changed when we took the second new ball. The old ball was reversing and hard to get off the square. Once we took the second new ball, it was a lot easier for Bell, Prior and Broad who picked up a lot of momentum.

I doubt Cook will make that mistake. Could see him strangling our tail.

There's been some poor decisions by Australia this test.

He might not have a choice if no wickets are falling

As long as we are ticking over 1.5+ an over with relative ease, he will be forced to take the new ball
 

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But agree with others, Clarke stuffed up taking the new ball in their 2nd dig, not one of his best decisions
 
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They are not going to fly Warner to South Africa then back to England and pick him in a test team with no practice.

It'll either be Cowan or Khawaja.

Warners had a whole month of practice.

And the whole reason he's with Australia A is to get match practice.

Him being sent there tells me he's firmly in the plans. Could also see Lehmann being a fan of his style.
 

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Ok, again, I think a lot of people are missing this.

The second test starts on Thursday.

Australia A's first match starts on Thursday.

Warner is being sent to South Africa for match practice. He is not going to be flown there, then back, if there is no match practice involved. He will not play in the second test.
 

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Chappelli in the telegraph, reasoning why Warner and khawaja must replace Cowan and Rogers

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-in-ashes-series/story-e6frg6n6-1226678946983


IS Ashton Agar going to be the next Shane Warne? Forget about his bowling, I'm talking about as a batsman.

Warne is often recalled for his nerve-racking 99 with the bat and as a front-line spinner. Agar may also be remembered for falling so agonisingly short of what would have been an amazing Test century.

Judging by his temperament and shot-filled innings, there are a few Test centuries awaiting this enterprising debutant. Apart from the runs, which were priceless, Agar's remarkable innings achieved two crucial things.

First, it saved Australia from falling into a series sinkhole from which they may never have escaped. Second, it exposed a flaw in Alastair Cook's captaincy.

Entering this series, one of the few advantages Australia appeared to have was in captaincy - Clarke is a far superior tactician.

Agar's innings, with the help of Phillip Hughes, also showed that Cook is a worrier who can run out of ideas very quickly.

Once a fielding captain sits back and waits for the opposition to commit cricketing suicide, the batting side, by displaying a bit of bravery and brains, can take the initiative. That's what Agar did and his inspiring knock will boost Australia's confidence for the remainder of the series.

During this enthralling passage of play, the panic showed on Cook's face. The ability to appear calm and in control as a captain, even when things are going badly, is crucial. Any sign to the contrary will be picked up by players of both sides and matches can turn on an hour of indecision. At Trent Bridge, little groups of players began gathering as England's plight worsened and that's always a pleasing sight to the opposition.

In a tight series, the difference between Clarke and Cook could be crucial

Having breathed a sigh of relief as the Agar-Hughes partnership resurrected the series, the tourists now need to act quickly to capitalise.

Australia have seen how going on the offensive can freeze England and they should immediately cancel David Warner's flight to South Africa. He needs to open with Shane Watson at Lord's.

Rather than continually mounting a rearguard action, Australia could heed the words of the Welsh rugby coach who implored his team by saying: "Boys, I want you to get your retaliation in first."

They should forget the Chris Rogers experiment of grinding down the new-ball bowlers; instead they should take them on and if it comes off then a famous victory beckons.

Australia should also note the influence of youth at Trent Bridge. The recovery was engineered by Agar and aided by an inventive Steve Smith and a committed knock from Hughes. Why not go the whole hog and include Usman Khawaja in the next Test side?

Watson, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja and Smith may occasionally replicate the calamitous top-order collapses of the current batting line-up, but they also might produce a runscoring tsunami that washes away captain Cook and his England crew.

In the short space of a few days Agar has become aware of the harsh reality of Ashes cricket. After a stumping reprieve when batting and then having a catch disallowed when bowling, he has learned every day is a battle and it doesn't always go your way.

Nevertheless, very few Test debutants can say they saved a series for their team. If Agar hadn't stunned England and amazed the cricket world with his batting, Australia may have lost the first Test so badly a comeback would have been difficult. Thanks to him, Australia now have a realistic chance of competing in this suddenly captivating series.
 
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Ok, again, I think a lot of people are missing this.

The second test starts on Thursday.

Australia A's first match starts on Thursday.

Warner is being sent to South Africa for match practice. He is not going to be flown there, then back, if there is no match practice involved. He will not play in the second test.



Doh!

Didn't realise their first game wasn't until thursday.

Will be usman for sure then.
 

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If Agar bats well in this 2nd dig (another 5o for example), what the odds put him at 6? Bring in Bird or Harris?
 

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Cowan averages around 30 after 18 test's, is a poor fielder and runner between the wickets and does not bowl. It astounds me he is still anywhere near the Australian set up.
 

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1) Watson
2) Hughes
3) Khawaja
4) Clarke
5) Smith
6) Agar
7) Haddin
8) Siddle
9) Starc
10) Pattinson
11) Harris / Lyon (Depending on if it's going to be a spinners pitch or not)

Really good bowling line-up.. not so sure about the batting side of things.

Agar and Lyon working in tandom could actually be pretty good if it's a decent spinners pitch..

I also think Hughes should be opening, it's a known fact that he's great against pace and really average against spin, why risk bringing him in at 5/6 when Swann is going to be on? Let him get his eye in against the quicks.
 
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Agar at 6 or even 7 is just crazy talk. People need to take a deep breath.


Our batting line up needs strengthening , not weakening by removing a batsmen.

If Watson is in the team there are plenty of bowling options.
 

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Agar at 6 or even 7 is just crazy talk. People need to take a deep breath.


Our batting line up needs strengthening , not weakening by removing a batsmen.

If Watson is in the team there are plenty of bowling options.

If Agar does well in this 2nd dig then....

How is it not strengthening the batting line up putting him at 6, and pissing off Cowan?
The guys temperament and technique are something special.
 

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Bird in the side would be nice. someone who can keep the pressure on and take wickets

We need to win the series, not draw it. So if one game is drawn to to rain or concrete deck, we need to win 3 tests. Bird must play a role somewhere in the next few tests

Id seriously look at this side during the series sometime


Warner
Watson
Hughes
Clarke
Smith
Agar
Haddin
Siddle
Pattinson
Starc
Bird
 

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