1st ODI: Australia v India Perth, Jan 12 2016

[ANTiLAG]

I'm miffed by the Nathan Lyon decision. Anytime I see that scorecard or the series brought up, I'll think that big pink cherry on Lyon's bat 'could have come from anywhere'. I couldn't care less about it now. But the series is tainted. Win, lose or neutral, it is tainted in the almanacs. You can call it butt hurt for the loser. But when English people look at the almanacs of 1932/33 Ashes they were the victors - but they remember the series for a significant theory.

It is one of those things. It is a significant cricketing event that is now etched into folklore.

Nathan Lyon has certainly got some mileage out of it with the Australian fans. I expect him to auction the bat for charity in the future. I don't even dislike him as a cricketer. He seems a fairly humble affable guy - especially for an Australian cricketer.

NZ cricket has forgiven Nigel Llong, but the taint of that incident on the series result will permanently remain.

 

[JJ]

And if drs had failed dhoni id have sympathy but mistakes happen. We cant expect humans to be right 100 percent of the time. Drs shows that the ball is actually hitting the stumps a lot more than we thought with lbws for example. Humans make errors of judgement all the time. Without errors in judgement cricket would be a completely different game because batsmen would score huge amounts of runs.

The umpire made a boo boo but with drs there are much lower chances of a second boo boo. Sure it happens with lyon or khawaja in the ashes a few years ago but the risk of error is greatly reduced.

What hurt nz was the complete meltdown bmac had in the field afterwards. He lost the plot with his captaincy. Another error of judgement. Everyone at home would have been saying crikey bmac why are you still bowling spin but he obviously thought it was most likely to get a wicket.

That said the kiwis being butthurt still like a month later is pretty sad.

Your butthurt about Khawaja is somehow different? It gets raised quite a bit, and is years ago, yet obviously has left some sand in your vag

 

[Twizzle]

lol

incredible

 

[Pete Cash]

Your butthurt about Khawaja is somehow different? It gets raised quite a bit, and is years ago, yet obviously has left some sand in your vag

There are some kiwi fans who believe that Australia literally always gets the rub of the green in cricket. That if an umpire will err its always in Australias favour. The Khawaja example is given just to demonstrate that Australia cops a bad call on occasions.

I am not butthurt over the Khawaja call. These things happen in cricket. I felt a bit bad at the time because it sucks to have one go against the side you support. No point carrying on like Skeepe over it. The umpire f**ked up, move on. It happens quite a lot to the Raiders and I can normally shrug them off.

 

[mozza91]

I'm miffed by the Nathan Lyon decision. Anytime I see that scorecard or the series brought up, I'll think that big pink cherry on Lyon's bat 'could have come from anywhere'. I couldn't care less about it now. But the series is tainted. Win, lose or neutral, it is tainted in the almanacs. You can call it butt hurt for the loser. But when English people look at the almanacs of 1932/33 Ashes they were the victors - but they remember the series for a significant theory.

It is one of those things. It is a significant cricketing event that is now etched into folklore.

Cricket folklore? New Zealand cricket folklore maybe. It'll be there alongside the underarm incident and f**k all else.

 

[Pete Cash]

Not enough people care about NZ cricket for the series to be marred. ANTILAG is talking shit as normal.

 

[The Charlatan]

"Crikey". What do you call this then?

I think you'll find most Australians found that to be the lowest thing ever done on a cricket field.

I know I certainly do.

 

[Meth]

re Lyon- The DRS is not 100 percent because there's a person involved and people get it wrong. That being said, I have no sympathy for a DRS (or video ref) howler. You pay these guys well and give them the benefit of all of the technology at their disposal and there just is no room left for monumental error. But anyway, I had moved on and I thought everybody else had to. Did a Kiwi or an Aussie bring it up?

re India- no sympathy. If there was a DRS, Bailey would have been gone first ball. We all know that. In saying that, it gets pretty tight in there (glove, thigh pad) and it is understandably tough for the on-field umpire to get it right all the time. Batsman gets the benefit of the doubt. He should have been given out, but he wasn't and that's the way cricket has been played for years. If it happened to Australia, I would feel a but for them considering they are not the one obstructing the usage of the DRS...but when it happens to India, tough shit, always. I am sure there's no conspiracy against them, but I wouldn't really care if there was.

 

[Meth]

I think you'll find most Australians found that to be the lowest thing ever done on a cricket field.

I know I certainly do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIL6KZox6Ao

Even Rod Marsh was disgusted

 

[JJ]

Cricket folklore? New Zealand cricket folklore maybe. It'll be there alongside the underarm incident and f**k all else.

Ignorance is nothing to be proud of

 

[chigurh]

Yeah, without DRS the Bailey call is pretty bloody difficult for an umpire to make - yes that's what they get paid to do, but still difficult.

Towards the end of the Indian innings (last three overs) the radio commentators were certain an Indian batsman had gloved a ball to Wade, then proven incorrect when replays showed the ball had come off the helmet.

Anyway, f**k Dhoni and India and I hope that when umpires do inevitably make a mistake it is India that is burnt by the decision.

 

[JJ]

Benefit of the doubt is supposed to go with the batsman - the on field umpire made a perfectly defendable decision - if DRS was in play, and the 3rd umpire didn't go full genius then it could have been changed had India reviewed (no guarantee they'd have done that anyway)

Dhoni just being Dhoni

 

[The Charlatan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIL6KZox6Ao

Even Rod Marsh was disgusted

The boys should have overruled Greg Chappell that day. It would have been the one time it were acceptable to tell the captain to go f**k himself.

I've been abused by a captain in park cricket because I walk.

I did it in a semi and he tore strips off me, I told him that we have different interpretations of playing in the spirit of the game and if he didn't like it he was fine not to pick me for the following week should we have made the final.

 

[Hutty1986]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIL6KZox6Ao

Even Rod Marsh was disgusted

Richie was commentating at the time from memory? Just complete disdain in his voice, and understandably so.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Benefit of the doubt is supposed to go with the batsman - the on field umpire made a perfectly defendable decision - if DRS was in play, and the 3rd umpire didn't go full genius then it could have been changed had India reviewed (no guarantee they'd have done that anyway)

Dhoni just being Dhoni

:lol:

 

[JJ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIL6KZox6Ao

Even Rod Marsh was disgusted

Think Lillee stood outside the boundary too, so technically it was a no-ball

 

[Meth]

Think Lillee stood outside the boundary too, so technically it was a no-ball

Was looking for info on this and came across this article- http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/498574.html and this interested me...

"What was not widely known at the time was that Chappell was deeply unhappy about the demands being put on Australia's players by a relentless schedule of cricket. "The underarm had very little to do with winning that game of cricket, because, in fact, we'd won the game," he said. "They weren't going to get six off the last ball of the game. It was my statement. My cry for help was: 'You're not listening. This might help you sit up and take notice'."

And we thought Dhoni was full of shit

 

[Meth]

Was Lillee standing outside the boundary as a protest?

 

[JJ]

Was Lillee standing outside the boundary as a protest?

Yes, that's what he claimed in his book - he and Marsh were pretty clear about it.

Greg Chappell was a great great batsman, but yeah, that episode made Dhoni look like a saint