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1st ODI: Australia v India Perth, Jan 12 2016

chigurh

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Finch has probably performed better in ODI's than Warner the past year or so.

ODI's seems to be where Warner struggles the most these days. I think a lot of his issues would be solved if he'd just keep the ball on the ground early in his innings.
 

undertaker

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Well, after the game, all I can say is Thank God the WACA won't be hosting any more internationals this summer. Pitches in both the test match and today's ODI, as well as the shortened 62m boundaries on 3 of the 4 sides of the ground, were a disgrace.
 

Ibleedblue

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Great win we had to fight back from nowhere to win this game and thanks to Bailey and Smith we did it and it was never really in doubt once they got going and got some second chances. Probably will see a high scoring series both bowling attacks were week.

I'm on holiday in Perth at the moment and was at the game today, so this will be a memory I will cherish.
 

simmo1

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Nooooo.

Warner averaged 54 striking at 110 in 2015 for 15 matches.

Finch averaged 40 striking at 88 for 16 matches.

170 against mighty Afghanistan boosts Warner's stats massively. Didn't he beat up on Ireland as well?

Either way, Finch averaging 40@88 would suggest he's doing OK. He had a pretty good WC too.
 

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Finch has a known weakness that no (opening) batsman should have.

More teams will exploit it, unless he does something about either the reality, or perception as you say, he is in trouble.



With Warner's test and T20 games on fire, its expected that he will soon light the odi fuse of a big run of big scores at home, and when he does, very few, if any, will be surprised.
 
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Rabbits20

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Classy win by Australia. India well below par but Australia further demonstrating that their selection tactics are right, and that Bailey is still the best #4 option, despite critical posters on here.

Finch, full and outside off, now has to pull a rabbit out of the hat to save his career.

Good interview by Smith in the post match. He's maturing well.

I've always liked Bailey.

The criticism he has gotten is unwarranted.
 

JJ

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Funny that Warner really hasn't proven (yet, pretty sure he will) that he's a very good ODI player
 

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Warner is unavailable, paternity leave

I agree about Maxwell, I dont get it, he is T/20 only for mine, a lot of natural ability but nothing between his ears, dumb cricketer. He is our only "spinning" option but he doesn't spin the ball. He should bat about 3 or 4 spots lower if he is our spinning option, freak in the field though.

Great knock from Smudger but I would have given MOM to Sharma, I dont know why MOM has to go to the winning team and Sharma was not out.

Finch is a myth, surviving on his WC semi form imo.

India f**ked up picking 2 spinners for mine, this is not an Indian pitch.
 
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TheParraboy

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Funny that Warner really hasn't proven (yet, pretty sure he will) that he's a very good ODI player

Meh

Has a similar record to Gayle. He will either bumble his way out, or win you a game basically on his own. We have enough batting depth to cover if he goes early as proven many times, including yesterday.
 

TheParraboy

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Warner is unavailable, paternity leave

I agree about Maxwell, I dont get it, he is T/20 only for mine, a lot of natural ability but nothing between his ears, dumb cricketer. He is our only "spinning "option but he doesn't spin the ball. He should bat about 3 or 4 spots lower if he is our spinning option, freak in the field though.

Great knock from Smudger but I would have given MOM to Sharma, I dont know why MOM has to go to the winning team and Sharma was not out.

Finch is a myth, surviving on his WC semi form imo.

India f**ked up picking 2 spinners for mine, this is not an Indian pitch.

I think Maxwell will get better and better. Would have him in my XI anyday.

Smith deserved MOM, we were 2/21 and is deep poo. Sharma (and Kholi) plodded along when they should have upped the ante between around 30-45 over mark. Easy to stay not out if you aint really going for it. Everyone admits india were 20-40 runs short, it is in this period they screwed up and with 9 wickets in hand
 

JJ

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Meh

Has a similar record to Gayle. He will either bumble his way out, or win you a game basically on his own. We have enough batting depth to cover if he goes early as proven many times, including yesterday.

Gayle's a bit of a myth...

Sorry, Warner makes Guptill look brilliant as an ODI player atm, he has been mud against anyone semi-competent, and 'won' you games with 100's against Ireland, England, and Sri Lanka (twice) - he might have won the game against Afhanistan too? His ODI record against India, NZ, Pakistan, South Africa and even the Windies is pretty awful.

As I said, I fully expect him to improve, but he's been pretty mediocre to date
 

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http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/01/13/india-cry-foul-over-drs-conspiracy

India cry foul over DRS conspiracy

India's ongoing refusal to approve the use of DRS in their games came back to haunt them in a five-wicket loss to Australia at the WACA Ground.

India captain MS Dhoni believes his side are getting the raw end of the deal from umpires as payback for the team's ongoing refusal to use the Decision Review System.

The powerful Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) are continuing to block the use of DRS in any games involving India - and it's starting to hurt.

Australian batsman George Bailey should have been out for a golden duck in Tuesday's ODI at the WACA when he gloved a delivery through to the wicketkeeper.

Hot spot showed the ball tickled Bailey's glove on the way through, and snicko strengthened the evidence.

But with the umpire giving Bailey not out - and no DRS available for the game - India simply had to accept the decision.

Had Bailey been given out, Australia would have been in all sorts of trouble at 3-21.

Instead, Bailey went on to make 112 in a 242-run stand with Steve Smith (149) to lift Australia to a five-wicket win.

When asked whether his position on DRS had changed, Dhoni replied: "Are you indirectly saying that we don't get decisions in our favour because we don't use DRS?"

"We need to push the umpires to take the right decision.

"You have to see how many 50-50 decisions don't go in our favour."

When asked whether he felt his team might not be getting the 50-50 calls in their favour because of their stance on the DRS, Dhoni replied: "I may agree with you."

Dhoni said the variables on DRS were simply too great, with too much emphasis being placed on the umpire's original decision.

For example, if a batsman is given not out fallowing an appeal for lbw, the decision can only be overturned if DRS shows more than 50 per cent of the ball is hitting the stumps.

But if the original decision was out, then even one per cent of the ball hitting the stumps is enough for the batsman to be dismissed.

"DRS shouldn't be umpire's decision justification system," Dhoni said.

"In tennis there is nothing which says, 'The umpire has given it out, and half the ball needs to pitch inside the line, and if he has given it not out, then the scenario is different'.

"The rules need to be plain and simple.

"It (shouldn't) matter whether you are given out or not (by the umpire)."

Bailey broke out into a grin when asked whether he had gotten any glove to the ball.

"It just caught the thigh guard a little bit I reckon," Bailey said.

"It would have been interesting on DRS to have a look at that, wouldn't it."
 

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