1st T20I - Australia v England Adelaide Oval Jan 12

[hineyrulz]

Great game of cricket.

Went down to the last ball against the world champs.

Every bowler will occasionally be expensive in T20. LEe and Tait were there to take wickets when needed. They did that to an extent. They created chances and pressure at the right time.

Better fielding would have got us home.

Everyone needs to acknowledge that it was a slowish pitch. Batting was easier earlier on (plus with the restrictions). Both sides innings went the same way.

We took far more wickets - they bowled more restrictively.

We could do with a Pollard type player who can balst for the last few overs.

Maybe Warner could be moved down the order if he is still trying to find the balance in his game. Paine is very effective opening in the Big Bash - highest boundary to ball retio of any player.

Probelm with Warner batting down the order is he struggles against Spin and good changes of pace. Most games in the big bash they open with a spinner against him. So i reckon he will struggle worse without facing the quicks and a new ball.

 

[Twizzle]

gotta keep Warner away from spin, thats why he opens

its also why the WACAs opened the bowling with Gayle against the Blooooos

 

[aqua_duck]

Warner wasn't his usual self but he still managed to go at better than a run a ball and rotated the strike well for Watson. You gotto put things into context, when you've got a bloke at the other end going crazy like Watson was sometimes your best option is to rotate the strike and not get out. Problem with the Hussey/White partnership was they both weren't prepared to play the dominant role

 

[Collingwood Storm]

haha... it's all Dussey's fault, yet he has pretty much identical strike rate as Warner

Why is Smith in the team? to provide 'energy'?

Paine should at least bat ahead of Smith and Smith was the 3rd spinner and didn't bowl an over.

Cam White worked the bowlers around well and set good fields... well as good as he could with spuds dropping catches and bowlers bowling pies (except Mitch and Watson). Obviously would have liked to bat better, but that's the nature of T20, not always going to come off.

Still trying to figure out how Lee is a better T20 bowler than Nannes.

 

[aussies1st]

Warner seemed troubled with that short stuff at his body, thought he had a pull shot but seems not. Hes certainly not as destructive as he use to be, will want to perform soon as Marsh is killing it.

 

[aqua_duck]

haha... it's all Dussey's fault, yet he has pretty much identical strike rate as Warner

Why is Smith in the team? to provide 'energy'?

Paine should at least bat ahead of Smith and Smith was the 3rd spinner and didn't bowl an over.

Cam White worked the bowlers around well and set good fields... well as good as he could with spuds dropping catches and bowlers bowling pies (except Mitch and Watson). Obviously would have liked to bat better, but that's the nature of T20, not always going to come off.

Still trying to figure out how Lee is a better T20 bowler than Nannes.

Well maybe you should ask White why Smith didn't get a bowl yet 2 of the guys who bowled the full allotment of overs were going at 10 an over. Also wouldn't the captain have some say in who bats where?
The problem with Dussey's innings isn't so much the strike rate, it was the way he went about it. He and White weren't even trying to up the run rate, Warner wasn't at his best but still did a decent job at setting a solid platform and giving Watson a strike

 

[Parra Guru]

I actually thought it was risky to play Tait, Lee and MJ in the same side as they are all risky players.

Lee bowled a couple of loose ones trying for the yorker, but at least he should have some improvement in him before the WC. He's a bloody good fielder.

 

[Big Pete]

As ordinary as D. Huss was I feel we're not giving the English bowlers enough credit, some of those balls, particularly from Bresnan were dead set unplayable. Not that Huss faced many of those balls, no that particular honor belongs to Finchy but I feel that was one of the big differences.

Just to clarify, Lee wasn't to blame, but that over certainly was the final nail in the coffin.

 

[HevyDevy]

As ordinary as D. Huss was I feel we're not giving the English bowlers enough credit, some of those balls, particularly from Bresnan were dead set unplayable. Not that Huss faced many of those balls, no that particular honor belongs to Finchy but I feel that was one of the big differences.

Just to clarify, Lee wasn't to blame, but that over certainly was the final nail in the coffin.

It's all about intent. Finch was trying to score, Dussey and White were not.

 

[beads6]

As ordinary as D. Huss was I feel we're not giving the English bowlers enough credit, some of those balls, particularly from Bresnan were dead set unplayable. Not that Huss faced many of those balls, no that particular honor belongs to Finchy but I feel that was one of the big differences.

Just to clarify, Lee wasn't to blame, but that over certainly was the final nail in the coffin.

Bresnan at the death was superb and that is what we need from Lee but he failed. Oh well he has not played much Cricket of late so he will get better. Hussey and White destroyed any momentum our innings had when they were only looking for singles for 7 overs. Captain White wasn't much chop IMO and I didn't fancy Tim Paine pegging that ball at KP either.:crazy:

 

[El Diablo]

haha... it's all Dussey's fault, yet he has pretty much identical strike rate as Warner

you're the one who wanks on about him

Why is Smith in the team? to provide 'energy'?

Paine should at least bat ahead of Smith and Smith was the 3rd spinner and didn't bowl an over.

so first you say this which was Victorian Whites decision

Cam White worked the bowlers around well

so why didn't Smith bowl

Still trying to figure out how Lee is a better T20 bowler than Nannes.

Victorian alert

 

[Big Pete]

To be fair to White he only faced 7 balls and he got out slogging on the seventh, he never looked comfortable though, wasn't hitting them cleanly.

Huss was the real culprit, slow and out of touch.

 

[Twizzle]

To be fair to White he only faced 7 balls and he got out slogging on the seventh, he never looked comfortable though, wasn't hitting them cleanly.

Huss was the real culprit, slow and out of touch.

yeh, but apparently he can bowl a bit

 

[Big Pete]

Victorian alert

Explain?

Stats. certainly support CS

 

[beads6]

Explain?

Stats. certainly supports CS

Because El Diablo is in fact the genius:crazy:

 

[Collingwood Storm]

The point is why is Smith in any Aussie team when he isn't a top 6 bat or a frontline (or in this case 2nd choice) spinner?

The selectors select the team and the captain says who does what.

 

[HevyDevy]

The point is why is Smith in any Aussie team when he isn't a top 6 bat or a frontline (or in this case 2nd choice) spinner?

I agree with you on this. And Warner shouldn't be there either. He looks like he is trying to protect his spot at the moment.

I guess he is well aware that T20 is all he's got.

Obviously Cameron White should be in the T20 side, just saying he was awful with the bat last night and he and Dussey showed a lack of intent for a good 3-4 overs last night which cost us dearly in the end.

 

[El Diablo]

The point is why is Smith in any Aussie team when he isn't a top 6 bat or a frontline (or in this case 2nd choice) spinner?

The selectors select the team and the captain says who does what.

White isn't a captains arsehole

just check out Smith's T20 bowling stats

 

[El Diablo]

Explain?

Stats. certainly support CS

rubbish

Nannes and Lee are pretty much equal in RPO conceeded. 7.02 v 7.12

Nannes has a better strike rate but Lee has a much better batting average. bowling 19.82 v 27.69 and batting 8.4 v 19.16

and then look at Steve Smith for example

42 wickets @17 going at a tad over 7 an over

did Victorian White bowl him?

 

[Big Pete]

I was never comparing Smith to Nannes, just Lee to Nannes.

Nannes certainly deserved a spot above either Tait or Lee.

I didn't understand the selection of both Smith and O'Keefe either.