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1st Test: Australia v India at Adelaide Dec 6-10 2018 - INDIA WIN BY 31 RUNS

TheParraboy

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It is worth mentioning with the mountain to climb tomorrow that both Darren Lehmann and Graeme Hick have scored a first class century more recently than Tim Paine.

Hows Paine gonna get a ton when he comes to the wicket at 5/260 odd? :D
 

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Australia's wicketkeeping situation is similar to that of the Tim Zoehrer, Wayne Phillips, Greg Dyer era.

Objectively the best keeper/batsman option remains Nevill in tests. But he’s run his race unfortunately.
 

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Objectively the best keeper/batsman option remains Nevill in tests. But he’s run his race unfortunately.

Yeah, what's up with that?

I mean, I get it....Paine's the captain. But Nevill just dropped off the scene after looking like the mid-term solution. He's younger than Paine.
 

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Yeah, what's up with that?

I mean, I get it....Paine's the captain. But Nevill just dropped off the scene after looking like the mid-term solution. He's younger than Paine.

He was never a dominant batsman. You had dickheads like Warne in commentary demanding he walk out and smack 50 off 30 because 'that's a keepers job' when he's only ever been a knock it around, rotate the strike type player. Then he was one of the scapegoats for the Hobart debacle against the Proteas.
 

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What this test is showing is how much Australian cricket has relied on the greatness of Smith, along with the occasional flash of brilliance from Warner, over the last few years. That's because shield cricket has been abandoned in favour of the big wank.

The big wank is here to stay, thats fine, its exciting if not predictable and of a low standard - it's the bread winner of domestic cricket. But the money made from it should be put into making better test players at shield level, otherwise Australian cricket will continue to go backwards.
 

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Plus India are getting better away from home, their quicks have matched us with pace and probably overshadowed us in performance.

Pujara has been the difference between both sides with the bat
 

Meth

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He was never a dominant batsman. You had dickheads like Warne in commentary demanding he walk out and smack 50 off 30 because 'that's a keepers job' when he's only ever been a knock it around, rotate the strike type player. Then he was one of the scapegoats for the Hobart debacle against the Proteas.

I know we're pretty much agreeing here, but Nevill seemed to be an exceptional keeper.

As a batsmen, maybe more in the Waitling mode- but that's Test cricket right.

Waitling- 57 tests. ave. 38.11. sr. 43.00
Nevill- 17 tests. ave. 22.28. sr. 40.66
Wade- 22 tests. ave. 28.58. st. 47.91
Paine- 15 tests. ave. 38.25. sr. 45.02

Actually, looking at that, maybe Paine is more like Waitling than I thought.

In any event, the trade was Nevill for Wade, right? Pretty massive concession of the wicket keeping front for minimal reward with the bat.

I guess we just put it down as a failed experiment.
 

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I know we're pretty much agreeing here, but Nevill seemed to be an exceptional keeper.

As a batsmen, maybe more in the Waitling mode- but that's Test cricket right.

Waitling- 57 tests. ave. 38.11. sr. 43.00
Nevill- 17 tests. ave. 22.28. sr. 40.66
Wade- 22 tests. ave. 28.58. st. 47.91
Paine- 15 tests. ave. 38.25. sr. 45.02

Actually, looking at that, maybe Paine is more like Waitling than I thought.

In any event, the trade was Nevill for Wade, right? Pretty massive concession of the wicket keeping front for minimal reward with the bat.

I guess we just put it down as a failed experiment.

Yeah, the drums were beating for Nevill basically from his debut. There were too many in the media that wanted another Haddin or Gilchrist with the bat, which Nevill was never going to be. That's how we ended up with Wade back in the side.
 

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Averaging 22 after 17 tests isn't good enough for a wicketkeeper these days. We have enough walking wickets as it is. The fact that Wade outperformed him with the bat speaks volumes.
 

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Paine is clearly the best current option. They've made him captain ffs.

Whoever decided to make him captain put a huge nail in wade's coffin and a public holiday should be declared to commemorate the day of their birth.
 

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Averaging 22 after 17 tests isn't good enough for a wicketkeeper these days. We have enough walking wickets as it is. The fact that Wade outperformed him with the bat speaks volumes.
actually he didn’t Wades return as a keeper had him averaging well under 20. And the less said about his keeping the better.
 

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