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1ST TEST: Australia v Pakistan MCG Dec 26-30 2009

Red Bear

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The only thing with Hauritz is, who is there to replace him? Smith is 3 years+ off making it as a spinner if he ever does, Krejza goes for too many runs, Holland is an OD specialist at this point, Cullen Baily isnt much chop?

Unless the SCG prepares a wicket like the one the other night against the vics which suits good fast bowling, that'd be nice.
 

eddiesmith

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The only thing with Hauritz is, who is there to replace him? Smith is 3 years+ off making it as a spinner if he ever does, Krejza goes for too many runs, Holland is an OD specialist at this point, Cullen Baily isnt much chop?

Unless the SCG prepares a wicket like the one the other night against the vics which suits good fast bowling, that'd be nice.
Holland is a OD speciallist? Interesting take on a bowler who hasnt taken a one day wicket for a long time yet just took a few in the recent Shield game
 

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The only thing with Hauritz is, who is there to replace him? Smith is 3 years+ off making it as a spinner if he ever does, Krejza goes for too many runs, Holland is an OD specialist at this point, Cullen Baily isnt much chop?

Unless the SCG prepares a wicket like the one the other night against the vics which suits good fast bowling, that'd be nice.

Well hes been called up again as backup for Hauritz. Bailey could be the one if SA keep giving him game time. Holland would be better than Hauritz probably, hes SLA so thats a start.
 

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Holland is a OD speciallist? Interesting take on a bowler who hasnt taken a one day wicket for a long time yet just took a few in the recent Shield game
Well its the way he seems to have been pigeon holes at this point, he'd been behind Mcgain in the FC games but been playing ODD cricket and earnt a call up to the ODI squad.

By all means play him in FC cricket tho, better for the country than playing a 37 year old leggie if we get a few younger spinners in.
 

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The only thing with Hauritz is, who is there to replace him? Smith is 3 years+ off making it as a spinner if he ever does, Krejza goes for too many runs, Holland is an OD specialist at this point, Cullen Baily isnt much chop?

Unless the SCG prepares a wicket like the one the other night against the vics which suits good fast bowling, that'd be nice.

I agree

Hauri is sh*t but everyone else is sh*tter.

Leave the pitch as it was the other night and get Hazlewood in there, hell even Pattinson would be better than Siddle as he showed the other night
 

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Well hes been called up again as backup for Hauritz. Bailey could be the one if SA keep giving him game time. Holland would be better than Hauritz probably, hes SLA so thats a start.
yup and it looks like there are more doubts over Hauritz than there is Ponting (not that it seemed at all liekly that Ponting would miss the boxing day test)
Steven Smith called in as cover for Nathan Hauritz

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December 24, 2009


Australia have included New South Wales legspinner Steven Smith to the squad for the Boxing Day Test against Pakistan in Melbourne. The eleventh-hour inclusion was necessitated after the team opted for a cover for Nathan Hauritz, who is battling a long-standing groin injury.
Alex Kontouris, the physiotherapist of the Australia team said, "Nathan has had a long-standing groin injury that has recently been causing more of a problem for him while bowling. While the injury has been manageable he has reported an increase in discomfort after completing today's training session. Nathan will train tomorrow morning and a decision will be made on his availability for the Test upon further assessment in the lead up to the match."
Smith, 23, has featured in nine first-class matches, making a bigger impression as a batsman than with the ball. He will join the squad in Melbourne and return to the domestic circuit, in case his services are not required for the match.
http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvpak09/content/current/story/440955.html
 

aussies1st

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Sounds like De Ja Vu of Perth, Hauritz in doubt but will be fit to play. But being Boxing Day Hauritz will probably play 80% fit.
Poor researching by Cricinfo, Smith is only 20. I was wondering why it said 23 as I don't remember him being that old and it was only last year or the year before that he was in u19.
 

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I think that was just a mistake ... it looks like we won't know for sure til tomorrow, I think that probably means Hauri will play, but who knows ...

Steven Smith keen to shine

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December 25, 2009


Eleven first-class wickets at over 75 isn't the best impression a young legspinner can leave in the land of Warne, and they aren't the most promising credentials to possibly make a Test debut with. But precisely that prospect awaits Steven Smith on Boxing Day at the MCG against Pakistan.
The 20-year old was drafted into the squad as cover for Nathan Hauritz, whose long-standing groin complaint may yet rule him out on Saturday morning. Mohammad Yousuf, predictably, was clueless when asked about him: "Steven Smith? Is he Australian?" But he can be forgiven, for few Australians will have heard much about him. Ricky Ponting, who might be captaining him tomorrow, hasn't faced a single ball from Smith, but is excited by the potential of the young NSW legspinner.
"Sometimes it can be an exciting thing when you see these young guys giving it a really good crack and seeing how they go," Ponting said. "I must admit I haven't faced a ball against him yet and probably a few guys [in the team] haven't faced him in state cricket. But he's impressed everybody with what he has done in all forms of the game over the last few months and that is exciting. We haven't really had young guys coming over the last few years into the Australian side and show what they've got. Quite often it's a good thing for young guys to get in and learn about themselves and learn about their game. If he gets an opportunity, there'll be no fear there from him. He'll really relish it."
A few full tosses in training betrayed nerves perhaps, but given Pakistan's poor track record against spin - of all kinds, shades and qualities - betting against some success if Smith does play would be foolish, even if he is just happy to be around the squad. "While I am very confident and hopeful Nathan Hauritz will be OK, if I was given the opportunity it would mean the world to me to play for Australia," Smith said. "Just to be noticed by the selectors is an unbelievable feeling and to spend some time around the squad before the Perth Test and now here in Melbourne has been absolutely brilliant.
"When I got the phone call last night from Michael Brown that they wanted me to come down as a standby player it was a huge surprise and really an early Christmas present. My family is very excited and if Nathan doesn't recover in time and I do get an opportunity to play they will certainly be coming down to watch. I know I will be doing everything I can to grab that opportunity with both hands."
Hauritz bowled in training on Friday and looked solid, according to Ponting; but his inclusion will depend on how he feels in the morning. "With Nathan it is a bit the same as me," said Ponting. "He is a whole lot better today in training than he was yesterday. He had a good solid bowl and put a lot more work on the ball and that is a good sign. But as we know with his injury over the last few weeks, it's been a day to day sort of thing with him, one day he feels great, next day he doesn't feel so good. Tomorrow morning will be an important time for him. We'll wait and see how he wakes up."
Australia have struggled to come to terms with the departure of Shane Warne in 2007, though no side in the world would replace him easily. They went through a number of different spinners in the last two years, before coming to an unspectacular, steady equilibrium of sorts with Hauritz. The prospect of Smith remains more exciting than the actuality currently, but Ponting believes in the fresh element of surprise he might bring.
"It's always nice to have young guys around the squad, particularly young spinners," Ponting said. "There is definitely a surprise element to him but with his batting, he is overall a very good package and we have seen him develop well in state cricket over the last 12 months. I'm sure he'd like [his first-class average] to be a lot less, and liked to have taken a lot more wickets. But he's an exciting young legspinner and that's where it lies with him. He hasn't played a lot of cricket but hopefully if he gets an opportunity to play for us, his Test record will be better than his first class at the end of the series."
http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvpak09/content/current/story/441049.html
 

beads6

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I really think they should be picking young Bailey if Huaritz is injured. SMith has nto got the bowling in him yet he is more of a batsman. Bailey has bowled pretty well this year IMO
 

hineyrulz

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The Blues should be congratulated on playing these youngs guys, QLD also this year have gone for youth and are being rewarded.
 

beads6

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Bailey has only played 2 matches IIRC, blame SA for him not being picked.

ok fair call. I did see that in one of the matches he got 4/60 odd.

Bailey is the better bowler IMO but has not been given a good enough chance. Smith will do the job if picked I hope hes goes well I rate him highly..
 

aussies1st

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As long as he doesn't do a McGain he should be fine. Hopefully the selectors keep the faith.

The selectors did pluck Hauritz out of 2nd 11 so I guess picking Bailey wouldn't be that far fetched. I think they are still undecided on him after his average form last season so a few more Shield games could have done the trick.
 

yappy

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I'd like to see him get a run, but only so long as Ponting gives him some protection with an in-out field and tells him to just get in there, keep it simple, toss it up and give it a big rip.

He's a good enough bat to push Johnson back to nine which would give us an incredibly deep batting line up. He just needs to start taking some wickets.
 

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