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2008 Higher School Certificate

Mr. Fahrenheit

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WOOOOOOOOT

first news i care about :D

I got an email saying i got the 5K a year for 4 years scholarship :D - now i can move out.
 

Hallatia

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Bumble said:
Sorry matey worked 9-5 today

I needed 81.6 for Journalism @ Macquarie...

I got 81.95 :D:D
is that the BA in media and cultural studies you want to do? I was looking into that until I decided I did not want to be a journalist anymore, however, I will be attending Macq U wooo, for some reason, they let me in, in spite of my results.

I have come to realise that it not hard to get into any course you want, I called Sydney uni for a friend and they told me that even with a UAI that will not get her into any course in Sydney all she needs to do is do a 1 year of a bachelor course anywhere else and prove her aptitude for university (by getting at least a credit average) and they will let her into her course the following year pending the demand it may require her to get a certain level of results

even without that, UTS has the "insearch" program, Macq U has a "non award" program and there is always the tafe pathway that can get people into uni, if they are willing to go down that road, you can even get a job and re-apply as a mature aged student and then you will have the money to support yourself in uni (I am also sure there are other ways too)

this whole results period has shown me that few people are satisfied with their results, one of my friends (at my school) got 97.75 UAI and she was not satisfied and she did not even want to go to uni and most of us thought that it was not possible to get that sort of result at my school anymore. I don't like my results but I am at peace with them (except for my assessment mark for extension 2 lol, but there is nothing I can do about it and I can hate the bitch who gave me that unfair mark til the cows come home, it won't change anything)



One last thing, Congratulations Santa, well done
 

adamkungl

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Don't get too worried about it people, as soon as you get your uni offers no one ever gives about your uai again.
 

Martli

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What exactly do you learn in a business degree? Like, what sort of fields does it prepare you for? Is business just the broader term where you pick a major? or do you just get a generic "business" qualification at the end of your studies? I was always confused about that because we don't have it as a major at my university, all our business-related degrees are broken down into specific areas ie marketing, accounting, management under the banner of "commerce and administration". When people say they're doing "business" it just seems really broad and vague.
 

Johns Magic

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Martli said:
What exactly do you learn in a business degree? Like, what sort of fields does it prepare you for? Is business just the broader term where you pick a major? or do you just get a generic "business" qualification at the end of your studies? I was always confused about that because we don't have it as a major at my university, all our business-related degrees are broken down into specific areas ie marketing, accounting, management under the banner of "commerce and administration". When people say they're doing "business" it just seems really broad and vague.

In Business you cover all the general economic subjects(i.e. accounting, marketing, economics, management, statistics, law and ethics, finance) in the first year.

In the second and third years you have to complete at least one major and either another major or two sub-majors.

Majors:

Information Technology,
Accounting,
Management,
Banking,
Finance,
Marketing,
International Business,
Tourism,
Sports Management,
Human Resources Management,
Financial Planning,
Advertising and Promotions Management,
e-Business,
Economics


Then there's an even greater list of sub-majors.

Career options include accounting, advertising and promotions, banking, economics, finance, human resource management, management, marketing, sport or tourism management.

So in summary a bachelor of business course pretty much covers all aspects of business and then allows students to specialise in more specific subjects.
 

Mr. Fahrenheit

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Martli said:
What exactly do you learn in a business degree? Like, what sort of fields does it prepare you for? Is business just the broader term where you pick a major? or do you just get a generic "business" qualification at the end of your studies? I was always confused about that because we don't have it as a major at my university, all our business-related degrees are broken down into specific areas ie marketing, accounting, management under the banner of "commerce and administration". When people say they're doing "business" it just seems really broad and vague.

well Martli, its similar here... My course is actually 'Business and Commerce', It's just the broader term where you pick a major. On our testamur, it will say Business and Commerce AND whatever our major is.
 

Bumble

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Johns Magic said:
Good stuff, I was happy too

Business @ UTS in the city (91.0)

Cool...thats what my gf is doing

I got into Media and Cultural Studies @ Macquarie (81.6)
 

Martli

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Oh right, so it's same sh*t just a different name.

This is possibly falling on deaf ears, but i'll give it a shot:
You guys want a tip from someone who's been there, done that? Don't study for a particular job. It sounds dumb to you now, but I'm deadly serious. You should study something that will teach you how to think critically so you can come to your own conclusions. Science-type things. So far i've spent 2 years doing a commerce degree majoring in accounting. My first year was pretty much the same as what JM wrote: I did general commerce papers like Econ, Management, Accounting--just the basics. In my second year I started my accounting major. Basically it was a whole lot of bullsh*t. What I learnt was that a lot of the business-type majors are basically just instruction manuals. All accounting taught me was how to be told what to do, where to find guidelines to make decisions and what to do in every single situation. They tried to put some subjectivity into it but the subject matter was too dry for it to really be captivating. Essentially it was training me to be a drone that does what the important people tell me to do. Setting me up for 40+ hours a week or doing everyone's dirty work and not even getting half the benefits of the creative and innovative people who are actually dictating where the entity is heading.

Basically, I chose accounting for all the wrong reasons: The job security and the pay-rates are enticing and it made my parents really happy. But I guarantee a good percentage of the people that do things like accounting hate their job and do it soley for the safety of a "comfortable" lifestyle.

A lot of business majors are like that. Management is a worthless major, you can learn management in the field, learning how people behave, how your company operates etc. etc. Finance and Accounting are pretty much drone sort of sh*t, you play around with a bunch of numbers in order to please the important people, but you have to know how to play around with them. Marketing I've never done, but I've heard that students have a hard time getting marketing jobs with that as their major (as odd as it sounds).

That being said, Econ is a great major. In my opinion it is the only business major that is worth doing. I've only done 2 Econ papers (and it will unfortunately stay that way now that I'm perusing psychology and political science) but both have taught me interesting ways to view the world and analyse problems. Accounting didn't, management didn't, finance didn't.

Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with doing this if it's what you really want, it's just that from my experience, a lot of people go into these sort of degrees with dreams of big houses and lots of money but ultimately succumb to the toils of the 40 hour working week. You both seem pretty intelligent and it'd be a shame to waste such good minds crunching numbers while the fat-cat lights up his cigar with a $100 note.

I guess the question is: do you want to do the dirty work while someone else reaps the benefits? or do you want to be the creative, innovative one who reaps the benefits themselves?
 

Mr. Fahrenheit

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Well Martli, i'm looking to do a Sports Management/Marketing double major, and then do a Bachelor of Law at Cambridge in 3-4 years time (Hopefully with chevening scholarship, if not ill pay). With the law degree being the back up, yeah to an extent i agree Martli about business degrees being equivalent to 'instruction manuals' however i'm confident its a little different with my course, mainly because of the course description. Nevertheless im sure the LLB will work on my critical thinking.
 
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