or Campese have to be there if we're any chance.
Unfortunately like Fensom he wasn't named in the emerging squad which gives you feeling he wont be featuring this year.
Or, like Chris Lawrence will make his Origin debut
lol well its only silly too you mate because you've been shown to be wrong, even though you were the one who brought up the subject of %s:lol: Don't know how I forgot this year. However in 2007 he was marked up against Jamie Lyon not Hodges... taking the totally non relevant statistic to 33%. 33% is probably in line with New Zealand's overall winning percentage against Australia if not up.
As for Lewis Brown I already mentioned he's not really relevant to this argument of backrowers who have played a significant part of their careers in the centres and have great defensive records.
Again winning percentages mean little though imo, no one teams results are soley based on one player... it's a ridiculous argument.
I still don't see how linebreaks would be harder in the centres than in the second row... not that it's relevant anyway Aubusson has a great strike rate at centre too. Running in between a second rower and a halfback in logic is the same as running between a halfback and a centre... you do understand the concept of running overs and unders don't you?
Neither Jennings nor Lawrence are noted for setting up their outside men, in fact I'd argue that Lewis would be better at ball playing and setting up tries for his outside man than either of them.
Ive said it once, and ill say it 100 more times... NSW is kidding themselves if they dont seriously consider starting Fensom at lock. He's the state's best lock forward outside of P.Gallen, who will rightfully play prop
lol well its only silly too you mate because you've been shown to be wrong, even though you were the one who brought up the subject of %s
Yeah mate I understand them. I also understand the concept of an overlap, inside links and advantage match ups too. All concepts that wide running 2nd rowers use. Your right though, its not relevant because we are talking about playing in the centres not the backrow, two very different positions.
FTW mate, Lawrence is very good at setting up his outside man but Id personally want to play Hayne at right centre anyway. You can stick to picking backrowers in the centres if you want but if you take a look at the vast majority of teams in this and other similar threads, you'll notice that pretty much everyone agrees that backrowers should just be played in the backrow.
Erm. Glen Stewart? Id even have Greg Bird ahead of Fensom.
Have I been shown to be wrong? I'll amuse the idea that winning percentages matter, New Zealand's winning percentage against Australia is just a tick over 20%, with Mannering in the centres it's 33%.
And I was never the first to bring up percentages you continually asked 1 out of how many? And when I finally answered it I even said I disagreed with the concept that there was any major link between winning games and individual performances.
So please tell me how it has been a failure if not for winning percentages which hold very little relevance and have proven in my favour...
FTW?
Hayne has played one game at centre in his career, how does this not contradict your argument that Lewis and Aubusson don't know how to play in the centres because they're backrowers despite having played far more games in the centres than Hayne.
Of course I'll stick to what I believe in, thanks Mum?
If I was affected by everyone else's opinion I wouldn't have even made this point to begin with as I'm well aware it's not a popular one. My objective isn't to convince anyone it's just to state what I believe, god forbid someone has a different opinion to the popular one on a forum.
Glen Stewart has been pretty average in his origin performances to date and Bird is better suited to the second row imo. Bird is just about the first player picked for NSW tbh.
Hayne has played more than one game at centre. I remember him playing their around 2008 but he wasn't very good. He played well for NSW in 2011 in a game that was already lost against a one legged Hodges.
Stewart hasn't impressed me at rep. either. I think he's the sort of player who plays well in a side that compliments his game rather than somebody who can come into a side and help out. I thought Beau Scott was a far better inclusion than Stewart and he was sorely missed in Origin 3.
Fensom has serious potential. If he can take his game to another level then you'd be silly not to include him.
My team
1. B Stewart
2. Gordon
3. Lawrence
4. Hayne
5. Uate
6. Soward
7. Maloney
8. Gallen
9. Hinchcliffe
10. Galloway
11. Watmough
12. G Stewart
13. Lewis
14. TLL
15. Mannah
16. Bird
17. Farah
Ive said it once, and ill say it 100 more times... NSW is kidding themselves if they dont seriously consider starting Fensom at lock. He's the state's best lock forward outside of P.Gallen, who will rightfully play prop
Ive said it once, and ill say it 100 more times... NSW is kidding themselves if they dont seriously consider starting Fensom at lock. He's the state's best lock forward outside of P.Gallen, who will rightfully play prop
You claimed it was 100% success rate with him in the centres against Inglis, you were wrong.
Haynes is not a backrower, that's how it differs mate. Jarrod has proven he can play well outwide in any position at rep level and that's why he gets the nod from me. Lewis has been there before too but it was many moons ago and he is a different style player these days, with far less pace and more bulk.
Im not saying you cant have a differing opinion mate. I however happen to disagree with it and have pointed out why. Dont post it here if you dont like someone disagreeing with you princess