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2013/14 Premier League

Sir Biffo

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If I was a Real supporter I'd be scratching my head. Is Özil really only half the player Bale is? I know that transfer values aren't everything, but either Arsenal got Özil for unders, or they the spanish government paid way, way, way over for the man with the great left foot ...
 

Sir Biffo

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Oh and Rooney to Arsenal in January. If they really did have a big war chest they should have some left ... 45 mill isn't that much in the EPL for one transfer window. Certainly not the big spending they trumpeted a while ago. I'd say the pressure will be on Moyes if he's still around in Jan to make some big signings, he'll need money, some people have to go. Kagawa back to BVB on loan & piss off Rooney. PSG surely won't sign another big name striker with Ibra & Cavani on the books, not too many other clubs would pay big bucks for him ...
 

Helmet Man

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Real Madrid management have explaining to do... why get rid off one of the best CAMs and pay massive overs for Bale... No logic whatsoever...

If they got rid off Di Maria then that would have made sense. Why Ozil though...
 

WireMan

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Ramires, Mata, Hazard, Lampard say hi BM

Mata says high from the subs bench and Lampard says high from 3 yards behind the play is more accurate.

You're still short of being realistic title challengers regardless. Every Big 6 squad has made decent improvements, barring probably United who can lay back on the fact they won the league in a canter last season.

I'd compare it to buying a Lambo and then gotten some P plater to drive it- the car is still one of the best and will still comfortably beat the majority of other cars, but you aren't going to get the very best out it compared to the others Lambo owners with professional drivers.

Nice analogy.

I would disagree about United though, I actually think out of all the teams at the top United actually made the biggest improvement. We had a hole in the mid, he fills it. Last year we walked the league despite this and Rooney/Nani being useless for most of it. They get back to form, Adnan coming in. Kagawa hopefully settled. It is on. :cool:

Chelsea still have no back up CBs and two injury prone slow defenders. They also rely on Lampard playing as a more defensive mid. They also have Torres, Ba and Etoo upfront (when he plays a striker), Torres is garbage, Ba not much better so unless Etoo recovers from his extended holiday in Russia and hits full form they are light up top.

Wilian may be good, but he is replacing the Chelsea player of the year so is not an improvement.

City are City. Bought a few expensive players to strengthen the squad but nothing that special. Navas maybe, but so far he has experienced our 3 weeks of summer. To quote the Starks, winter is coming...

As for Arsenal...
Anyone who thinks 45 for one of the best CAM's in the world is a bad deal is geniused. He's without a doubt the best signing by any british club this window.

I agree. However if i was an Arsenal fan and my club were going to spend 50 million Euros, i would prefer a forward, a horrible midfielder and a defender.

Arsenal buying Ozil is like buying a Lambo Gallardo while when you have a Ferrari 360 in the garage. Sure it is nice, but if you need to drive off road, they are both useless (That is for you Raiders :D). Fantastic player in his position but not what the doctor ordered.
That said, at least Arsene actually bought someone this time, and if the chance is their why not. He was probably giddy from beating Spurs so went a bit crazy. :)
This year the pressure is on. Is winning the 4th place cup good enough?

Oh and Rooney to Arsenal in January.

Don't be silly.
 

BunniesMan

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Rooney to Arsenal in January is impossible. If we are off the pace he won't want to come. And if we are competing for the title United certainly won't sell him to us.
 
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I would disagree about United though, I actually think out of all the teams at the top United actually made the biggest improvement

lol.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take that as just an attempt at trolling.

Your dealings and the way you've gone about your business this window smacks of incompetence.
 

Sir Biffo

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Have they figured out who the blokes were who turned up to Atletico to fix the Herrera deal yet ... And United paid 4 million GBP more than Fellaini's release clause which they could have activated a couple of months ago.

But yes, Man U did really well this transfer window. Old whisky face could smell the trouble and got out while he could!
 

Tyrone Biggums

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I agree. However if i was an Arsenal fan and my club were going to spend 50 million Euros, i would prefer a forward, a horrible midfielder and a defender.

Arsenal buying Ozil is like buying a Lambo Gallardo while when you have a Ferrari 360 in the garage. Sure it is nice, but if you need to drive off road, they are both useless (That is for you Raiders :D). Fantastic player in his position but not what the doctor ordered.
That said, at least Arsene actually bought someone this time, and if the chance is their why not. He was probably giddy from beating Spurs so went a bit crazy. :)
This year the pressure is on. Is winning the 4th place cup good enough?

I don't know how many Arsenal game's you (or anyone else for that matter) have watched in the last 9 months but we've been playing Cazorla on the left far more than we've played him at CAM.

I expect us to line up like this when everyone is fit:

Giroud
Cazorla Ozil Walcott
Arteta Ramsey/Wilshere.

If we make 4th again Wenger will go all out for a striker next summer and our front 6 will be as good as anyone's in the league.

We don't need any defenders. We had the second best defensive record in the league last season. If we defenders than so too did every team aside from City.


I would disagree about United though, I actually think out of all the teams at the top United actually made the biggest improvement

Some of the shit you come up with is priceless.

Mignolet, Lamela, Paulinho, Soldado, Eriksen, Ozil and Jovetic are all better signings.

Hell, even Everton had an infinitely better window than you guys. Not only did they upgrade managers but they got Lukaku on loan and James McCarthy.
 

LL4

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can see man utd going out knockout stage of champs league if one of rooney or van persie miss a few games, wellback got nothing
 

WireMan

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Terry, Luiz, Cahill, Ivanovic, Ake

That your list of back up CBs? Two of them are first choice, one is your right back, Luiz is not very good as a CB and i have honestly know clue who Ake is.

That is not very good.

lol.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and take that as just an attempt at trolling.

Your dealings and the way you've gone about your business this window smacks of incompetence.

I gave a nice set of reasons why i thought that.

The way we did it was terrible but the final result was alright.

Who did better?

Have they figured out who the blokes were who turned up to Atletico to fix the Herrera deal yet ... And United paid 4 million GBP more than Fellaini's release clause which they could have activated a couple of months ago.

But yes, Man U did really well this transfer window. Old whisky face could smell the trouble and got out while he could!

Lawyers for Herrera apparently. Bilbao refused to accept the money so the deal could not be made.

United paid 23.5 million for Fellaini. The 4 million extra comes from Fellaini handing in a transfer request so missing out on a bonus. Money he wil easily make back.

But do carry on..

I don't know how many Arsenal game's you (or anyone else for that matter) have watched in the last 9 months but we've been playing Cazorla on the left far more than we've played him at CAM.

I expect us to line up like this when everyone is fit:

Giroud
Cazorla Ozil Walcott
Arteta Ramsey/Wilshere.

If we make 4th again Wenger will go all out for a striker next summer and our front 6 will be as good as anyone's in the league.

We don't need any defenders. We had the second best defensive record in the league last season. If we defenders than so too did every team aside from City.

That team is terribly unbalanced.

Wilshire as the defensive mid?
Shame about the Ox not getting any games when he gets back from injury, or Podolski. You know, the effective players you had last year. They also played on the left, but i will leave that to one side as I don't want to p*ss on your parade...

I don't know how many Arsenal games you have seen, but you need to try again.

Some of the shit you come up with is priceless.

Mignolet, Lamela, Paulinho, Soldado, Eriksen, Ozil and Jovetic are all better signings.

Hell, even Everton had an infinitely better window than you guys. Not only did they upgrade managers but they got Lukaku on loan and James McCarthy.

What are you going on about? All better than who?

Mignolet? better than? Fellaini? Ozil? Reina? You lost me here.

Lamela, Paulinho, Soldado, Eriksen better than Bale?
Jovetic better than Tevez?

Everton finish with the better manager and the mighty McCarthy eh? meh.
Still they got the only decent striker Chelsea have so well done them, I'd imagine it would effect Chelsea more than United though?
 

Sir Biffo

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The simple fact of the Fellaini transfer is that you blew 4 million not activating the release clause. Whether you make more on him or not is irrelevant.

Maybe it's easy to forget that you won the league by 11 points last season, but Man U have stood still this window and all the other title contenders have gone forward. And when you get outperformed in the transfer market by Arsenal you know you have gone shit.
 

Someone

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Results will do the talking in the end.

Ozil will add alot to arsenal, spurs have a great looking squad, so many teams trying to fit into 4 places. should be a cracking season.
 

WireMan

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The simple fact of the Fellaini transfer is that you blew 4 million not activating the release clause. Whether you make more on him or not is irrelevant.

Maybe it's easy to forget that you won the league by 11 points last season, but Man U have stood still this window and all the other title contenders have gone forward. And when you get outperformed in the transfer market by Arsenal you know you have gone shit.

No. The simple fact is he cost 23.5 million. Sorry to disappoint you.

How can buying a player in the one part of the pitch we were weak in be considered standing still?
Answer: Wishful thinking.
 

Haffa

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That your list of back up CBs? Two of them are first choice, one is your right back, Luiz is not very good as a CB and i have honestly know clue who Ake is.

That is not very good.

Azpilicueta is our RB not Ivanovic. So our backups are Luiz and Ivanovic.

How is Evans, Ferdinand, Smalling, Vidic any better? I'd argue your depth in that position is worse.
 

Sir Biffo

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Apologies, I wasn't aware of him giving up the 4 million clause to Man U so they could make the deal worth 27.5 to Everton.

I guess it means you can piss off Cleverley, and have Felliani fill the role Darren Fletcher used to play?? I suppose standing still is a bit dramatic, but you have to admit you have been nowhere near as good as most other teams this window. As I said in an earlier post, you won the league by 11 points last year, so you were the benchmark, I just think that other teams have caught Man U and it should be a corker of a season!
 

Red Bear

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Personally very happy with Liverpools transfer window. Along way to go but we now have very good defensive cover.
Enrique, Cissokho, Agger, Toure, Sakho, Skrtel, Llori, Johnson, Kelly, Wisdom.

Extremely strong in defence, along with the addition of a quality keeper. Suarez, if his head is screwed on right, is a pretty handy addition to a team that's thus far unbeaten. Moses I'm unsure on but could be handy, with the jury out on Aspas and Alberto. Aspas lived up to his name on the weekend though.

Concerned about Gerrard (who wont be around forever) and Lucas as a centre mid combo, but some combo of Moses, Suares, Coutinho and Sturridge with Hendo, Alberto, Aspas, Sterling, Ibe in reserve is a reasonable attacking force. Will be interesting how our season pans out. Hopefully if we maintain our strong start (and with a comfortable run over the next six or so games, it's very possible) and are still in or around the top four come January we might get a bit of cash to splash on another player for the midfield.

Alot relies on Suarez playing as well as last season and Coutinho really kicking on to the next level, because on paper at least our attack still doesnt match city, Chelsea, Arsenal or Spurs.
 

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