2014/15 Premier League

[aqua_duck]

I will say that Liverpool handled the Evra thing horrendously. But with Ivanovic, I don't know what they did wrong? They condemned him, they accepted the ban, and most likely tried to give him counselling. They didn't need to punish him, The FA had already done it...

But they didn't 'accept' the ban, Brendan Rodgers came out in a press conference and whinged about how "bitterly disappointed" they were at the severity of the ban, said how disappointed Suarez was after he had tried to hard to curb his behaviour and suppress his natural instincts, etc. I mean this is on top of the way they handled the Evra incident, which was disgraceful as you said.

 

[aqua_duck]

Absolute rubbish.

If the club was so eager to bend over backwards for him, he'd have been a Goner last season.

But what purpose would that have served for Liverpool?

 

[Game_Breaker]

Absolute rubbish.

If the club was so eager to bend over backwards for him, he'd have been a Goner last season.

What kind of logic is that
The club was desperate to keep him because they wanted more

 

[saint.nick]

But they didn't 'accept' the ban, Brendan Rodgers came out in a press conference and whinged about how "bitterly disappointed" they were at the severity of the ban, said how disappointed Suarez was after he had tried to hard to curb his behaviour and suppress his natural instincts, etc. I mean this is on top of the way they handled the Evra incident, which was disgraceful as you said.

"Luis is aware that he has let himself and everyone associated with the club down"- Ian Ayre. They may be misguided as to how severe a punishment should be, but I don't think they enable it either...

 

[BunniesMan]

I don't know why anyone besides Liverpool fans would feel for Liverpool. If we did manage to buy him in 2013 I wouldn't expect anyone to feel sorry for Arsenal if this was our mess.

 

[Mong]

yep, yep, liverpool expected to come 5th or 6th, tiny squad, chelsea had a big squad to compensate for more games, were expected to come 2nd or 1st. You are a clown

:lol:

The post you responded to there is the Chelsea fans way of excusing the fact that Jose did little better than Rafa.

 

[saint.nick]

:lol:

The post you responded to there is the Chelsea fans way of excusing the fact that Jose did little better than Rafa.

:lol: It's also rather just the typical nasty little man that Haffa is.

Did you see my debate with st.pebba in jubilee ave? He reckon's that based on last season, Liverpool still aren't a true top 4 team. Well, if you want to use his logic, it makes Chelsea's 3rd place finish even more embarrassing.

 

[Haffa]

Nasty little man :lol: Hyperbole much?

 

[hellteam]

The racial abuse happened a long time before he got the contract upgrade. He only got the upgrade because he was playing on stratospheric levels. It's what the vast majority of other employers would do.

You'll be wearing one of these soon

 

[saint.nick]

they look superb

 

[saint.nick]

Nasty little man :lol: Hyperbole much?

euphemism

 

[Big Sam]

Let's insert some facts into this 'enabler' debate:

If there can be little sympathy for Uruguay, there has to be some for Liverpool, who pay Suarez's handsome wages and will now be denied his services because of his misdemeanour in another's shirt. When the puff of smoke from Maracana floated into the cloudless Rio sky, signalling the Suarez verdict, Liverpool went into lockdown, the Anfield clan gathering their thoughts on what to do with their problem child. Suarez has let them down again, ignoring all their attempts to help him.
It is known that last summer Liverpool congregated those who care about Suarez, from family members to team-mates, to a meeting in which the player was urged to change. Liverpool learned from Kenny Dalglish's ill-judged handling of the Evra incident. They realised that the politics of denial, as now practised by the Uruguayans, are self-defeating.
Liverpool tried to coax Suarez along the road to redemption. It appeared that Brendan Rodgers, Steven Gerrard and Sofia Balbi, Suarez's bright, conscientious wife, had succeeded. Suarez enjoyed a wonderful season, being named player of the year by fans, players and writers. It was impossible to vote against him on his formidable work across the season.
Now, he has transgressed again. Such an emotive debate as Suarez's bite leaves commentators viewing the issue only in black and white, apologists and executioners, yet it is important to see the shades. Suarez is a good role model in many areas, particularly off the field. This is a more complex situation than many observers contend. Suarez deserves to be vilified but not completely demonised. Yet Liverpool have to get rid of him.
The key moment at the Maracana came when FIFA, after consulting its lawyers, revealed that Suarez's ban "from all football activity" did not preclude his transfer. Liverpool will probably take a substantial hit on the mooted £80 million transfer to Barcelona. They have to offload him, though.
Ultimately, he has brought them more grief than goals. Even Liverpool's respected sports psychiatrist, Dr Steve Peters, the master of the inner chimp, cannot control the inner chomp. It is time for Liverpool to move on from Suarez. Let Barcelona have the goals, the assists and the stigma of Suarez.

Full article: http://www.smh.com.au/fifa-world-cu...off-without-its-carnivore-20140627-zsnm1.html

 

[HowHigh]

Sucks he misses the games but I'll be happy when he returns

 

[Haffa]

Facts :lol: Samantha

I think that it's deliberate and controlled behavior. He knows exactly what he's doing - it always happens when either his team's in trouble, or when he's being snuffed out of the game by a good defender. Each time he's been caught biting (and I emphasize the word 'caught' because I have little doubt that he's done it more than 3 times, but that it's either gone unnoticed, or there's been no conclusive proof), it's clearly been done to get a reaction from the defender, after which Suarez throws himself to the ground, feigns injury, and claims he's been elbowed. There's nothing uncontrolled about that. Also, with his other nasty fouls , he always looks to see where the ref is/that he's looking the other way, before he stamps on a player's foot/ankle, or rakes his studs down a player's calf. Instantly, up go his hands and his face contorts into a 'shock/horror' expression, as he pleads innocence/accident. And it's the same thing every time. There's nothing uncontrolled about that, either.

I hope that the UK media now hounds him out of the country, and that the refs do their bit by consistently punishing Suarez each and every time the dirty bastard commits one of his atrocities. He should be under total scrutiny. I don't want him to be able to continue polluting the Premier League. Hugely talented footballer? Yes. Lethal striker? Of course. Detestable piece of garbage? Absolutely.

You just watch Brendan O'Liverpool defend Suarez to the hilt. It'll be embarrassing.

 

[saint.nick]

Haffa, I have this suspicious feeling that you would display the exact same type of behaviour as Suarez on the field.

 

[saint.nick]

Being charged with an offence and being aquitted is quite different to being convicted of an offence Sam

Everyone knows that Slippy Terry is a racist. There is a big difference between shouting 'black ****', and saying 'negrito' in a culturally ignorant manner.

I'm sure you would be none to pleased if we referred to Banana Boots as a convicted thug...

Slippy is not convicted, he was cleared of affray...but that's besides the point. The point is you're deflecting attention away from the fact that another Chelsea fan on here has been hypocritical.

 

[WireMan]

Everyone knows that Slippy Terry is a racist. There is a big difference between shouting 'black ****', and saying 'negrito' in a culturally ignorant manner.



Slippy is not convicted, he was cleared of affray...but that's besides the point. The point is you're deflecting attention away from the fact that another Chelsea fan on here has been hypocritical.

I suggest you look back at the evra case.
He did not say negrito and he wasn't culturally ignorant.

Liverpool fc had a shocker with that one.


As for Stevie me, that was a disgrace. Self defence when you smack a DJ for not playing a song? You can tell he was tried in a scouse court.

Funny watching the scousers and renties having an argument about who has the biggest pr*cks in there team. Talk about a race to the bottom!!

Not sure why scousers are getting defensive about Suarez. He is off to Barca.
His wife spends half the year there, his child was born there, he wants to play there and has been saying so since he left the country. Everything that is said now is just part of the negotiations.


In other news united have a new left back and a new midfielder...
Happy days.

 

[hellteam]

Who needs RAWK, we have our very own delusional Liverpool fans here at LU

 

[Big Sam]

Who needs RAWK, we have our very own delusional Liverpool fans here at LU

We're not the ones saying Liverpool 'enabled' his behaviour like you are. And there's proof that the club took a tough line with him on the previous page. But I guess since it doesn't suit your angle, you couldn't be f**ked looking at it.

 

[saint.nick]

I suggest you look back at the evra case.
He did not say negrito and he wasn't culturally ignorant.

Liverpool fc had a shocker with that one.


As for Stevie me, that was a disgrace. Self defence when you smack a DJ for not playing a song? You can tell he was tried in a scouse court.

Funny watching the scousers and renties having an argument about who has the biggest pr*cks in there team. Talk about a race to the bottom!!

Not sure why scousers are getting defensive about Suarez. He is off to Barca.
His wife spends half the year there, his child was born there, he wants to play there and has been saying so since he left the country. Everything that is said now is just part of the negotiations.


In other news united have a new left back and a new midfielder...
Happy days.

I'm not defending Suarez a single bit. There's a difference between defending someone and calling out hypocrisy. I think most Liverpool fans would be happy if Suarez left, as long as we get something decent in return. You really think we'd rather have Suarez out for our first 13 games than get either a shit load of money or a couple of players in a swap deal?