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And I find that website Republik of Mancunia just as bad...
Slippy is not convicted, he was cleared
I never said Terry was convicted, I said everyone knows he's a racist (by today's PC standards).
Now, my measure is that a) I saw what Slippy Terry said on footage, b) Ferdinand is adamant about what he heard, c) He received a ban from The FA, and d) he even apologised about what he did. He wouldn't need to apologise if he did nothing wrong. Terry also f**ked his team mate's wife.
On the other hand, we have the Gerrard incident. This incident wasn't on footage, had no witnesses but a few people in a dark room, and Gerrard wasn't charged. Gerrard also hasn't been banned by The FA for it. I know that would be impossible, but I'm just highlighting that the Gerrard incident has much less evidence.
As far as I can recall, Gerrard has a reputation for being a likeable, great footballer who is also bit prone to slipping on banana peels. Terry has the reputation of being a racist, grass-cutting, thug world class footballer who is also prone to the odd slip.
Only Liverpool fans think that abut him.
Which is strange as he all but signed for Chelsea a few years back but changed his mind when his family was threatened...
And cleared. \\\\/
Garbage. Predominately only Utd supporters have it in for Gerrard, and even then, I know a few Utd fans who actually like him. There's a reason that all the neutrals were crying, 'win it for Gerrard' last season. If JT were chasing his first ever EPL, you'd never hear, 'win it for JT'. You are speaking from your imagination.
And don't try to subtly take a moral high ground on Liverpool fans, when United fans did the exact same thing to Rooney.
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Gerrard slipping vs Chelsea was met by the Universal laughing of everyone in the land.
Just because some rent a gob scouser on Aussie telly tells you we all want Gerrard to in the league does not make it true.
He handed in a transfer request and a gang of masked men came round his house to make him change his mind.
You have got so much wrong about Gerrard in this thread. Seriously just stick to ragging on the Renties.
You must have been living under a rock until that fateful day, because a large portion of neutrals on social media (I seem to be quite younger than you, so I'm probably a lot more in tune with that kind of stuff than you are), and also television, wanted liverpool to win for Gerrard, but you're in denial about that.
Also, you do realise that people laughed so much because of the massive irony? Everyone would laugh regardless of who it was, but the irony gave some extra fuel. I don't know why that even had to be explained. It's common knowledge.
I don't need you to now recount the whole story to me (what are you trying to prove?), Because I didn't even deny it. You seem so eager to remind me of it though, so I'll remind you that a gang of masked and hooded men gathered around outside Rooney's mansion, displaying a banner which read, 'Join City & Die'. So stop trying to take a moral high ground again. It's actually quite a common characteristic of Utd fans, if I were to drop your levels of stereotyping.
I seemed to have got so much wrong because I'm not suiting your anti-Gerrard agenda, otherwise in reality I only got the footage fact wrong, which was kind of minor to my point anyway
Yup you are clearly quite a bit younger than me.
Don't believe everything on the telly. It is not a truth box.
United are not on any high ground for morals.
It is Liverpool who are in the gutter looking up.
Nope, you seemed to have got so much wrong because you have actually got so much wrong.
If you are going to call Terry because what he did was on camera and he was charged whilst Gerrard is different because there is no footage and he wasn't charged. It then looks a little silly if the truth was he was charged and it was on camera.
That is everything wrong.
But then you got the whole Suarez-Evra thing wrong to. So at least you're consistent.![]()
Haha, that's ironically naive, jumping to the old 'don't believe the media' resort. I don't need to be so suspicious when people offer thoughts on who they want to win the f**king premier league. It's sport talk, not some kind of sensationalist agenda, So wake up a little bit.
Well that's exactly the same as adopting a moral high ground, by claiming we're in the gutter. I implied you're adopting a high ground over us, not everyone. Nice try though.
Actually, the main reason I'm calling Terry is because he was banned by The FAI guess what the Gerrard footage fails to show however is why he hit him. On the other hand with Terry, there's absolutely no excuse for what he did. I mean, who knows, he could have said something so offensive to him that he couldn't help himself. This is where people with all the faux outrage like you, Haffa and Jimbo need to pull your heads out of your arses. Getting in a pub altercation doesn't make you a thug.
And what the f**k did I get wrong about the Suarez-Evra case? I think I've hardly mentioned it...
Everyone knows that Slippy Terry is a racist. There is a big difference between shouting 'black ****', and saying 'negrito' in a culturally ignorant manner.
You really don't understand "sports talk" do you?
Not sensationalist? No Agenda?
Seriously?
United have not adopted any ground.
LFC went to the gutter through a T-shirt wearing campaigns to defend a racist all by themselves.
The court case showed why he hit him, it was an argument over a song.
You wouldn't be wanting to try to claim any moral high ground about this would you? ;-)
Everything...
From earlier in thread.
John Terry is considering an appeal after the FA's disciplinary hearing found him guilty of "using abusive language" towards QPR's Anton Ferdinand last October which "included a reference to colour and/or race".
The independent regulatory commission delivered its verdict on Thursday after a four-day hearing, ruling that Terry must serve a four-game ban and pay a fine of £220,000.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/sep/27/john-terry-verdict-chelsea-guilty
You're reading too much into it. There's no reason for pundits on tv to lie about who they personally want to see to win the premier league. Shaka Hislop- "I see City winning the league, But it'd be nice for Liverpool to win it". Why would he lie about that?
There's sports agenda and then there's agenda on everything else in the world. Sports agenda is pretty different and unimportant.
I wasn't talking about the club, I was talking about the fans. I like to distinguish between the two in football.
Firstly, let's remember that Gerrard was found not guilty. Secondly, I doubt that he hit him because the DJ said, I'm not playing that song'. Sure, it started the argument, but it then digressed away from the issue of the song and then escalated from there. Who knows what was said in the whole fight which made Gerrard want to punch him.
Sorry, but you misunderstood what I said. I'll explain myself better. On face value, what Suarez said to Evra indeed was racist, and he deserved to be punished. But, what he said was a ramification of his own cultural ignorance. He didn't mean any malice in the words, and that's proven by the fact he's known to have called other black team mates 'negrito'.
Can you now see why JT calling someone a black **** is different?
Look, I recognise sports agenda and that exists, but it has nothing to do with my original point. They don't say, 'Well I guess it'd be nice to see Liverpool to win' because they're evil and manipulative and bla bla bla.
I wasn't trying to get some big moral high ground, I just wanted to call out how hypocritical they were. But how the hell am I supposed to get a moral high ground based on the fact they're a shit little lucky club with a manager who failed to win a trophy?
I find your view on Suarez extremely cynical. Uruguay are not this big evil country. I've done reading on the evra case, and what I found is while Suarez deserved his punishment, the whole process behind it by The FA is embarrassingly flawed.
I don't care if JT made sense or not. Gerrard not guilty, JT guilty.
I need to take a break from LU. The soccer section is so much more interesting than the league section though...
- can't do any football related charity work
Totally, the NRL section is boring.I need to take a break from LU. The soccer section is so much more interesting than the league section though...
Actually if you read the Evra case findings by the FA independent panel ( I think it was 2 old drinking mates of Fergie on the 3 man panel), the from memory 300 plus page document to explain their decision basically come down to the panel believed one mans word over the others as there was no real proof or independent witnesses in the case. It was a mickey mouse decision and one that Liverpool should have fought a lot harder and taken it to the Court Arbitration Sport.
As for the current decision by FIFA, I expect that once the World Cup is over it will be quietly announced in the weeks that follow that FIFA have reduced the all football activity ban from 4 months to 1 month (meaning he will miss the pre-season). The pity is by this time Luis will most likely be a Barcelona player.
There are many reasons this reduction will occur but from what I have heard, the big clubs are already asking that FIFA put in writing that bans that occur when a player is on international duty can not carry over to club football. They never have in the past and FIFA know that they are setting a dangerous precedent and one that could lead to the big clubs making their (they after all pay the players massive wages week in week out) players unavailable for international football.