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2014 Jerseys, Logos & Sponsorship Thread

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kdalymc

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Ewwww at brisbanes blue numbers ha...
Check out the huge jerseys too...

Ha Alfie nearly dropped it
 

stimpy u idiot

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Why does the rooster face east? Maybe it's facing that way because it's representing the EASTERN suburbs and that's where the sun rises, and when the sun rises the c**k crows.

Dexter smexter, sometimes the simplest solution is the right one.

Yeah, but bullshit. First the "left" side isn't "east" until you take in account that it's actually the "right" side of the person wearing the device on their uniform. The simplest solution is actually that heraldry is the basis for logo design and especially the logo design of sporting teams. Australian national sporting teams often have the national coat of arms on their uniform. And the England football side uses the three lions passant guardant from the royal arms of the English crown! and which way do you think they face?

The simplest solution is that the facing toward the right shoulder of the bearer (left to the viewer) is the 'normal' way to represent these things.

The Rabbit, courant, faces 'east'

The Sea Eagle, displayed and elevated, faces 'east'.

The Eel, regardant, turns its head to the 'east'

The Bulldog, statant and gardant, faces 'east' (only slightly)

St.George, rampant, faces 'east' and his dragon, rampant, also faces 'east' (this particular team logo should impress upon you how much based on heraldry these things are!).

The Knight's helm, couped, faces 'east'

The Titan, the Tiger, the Warrior, the Cowboy, the Panther and the Viking Raider are all gardant, (facing the viewer). The Tiger is salient gardant.

Only the Bronco, the Shark, and the Storm God face sinistre.

The Shark is embowed sinistre.

All of this east-facing can only mean ONE thing: EASTS TO WIN
 
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stimpy u idiot

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The replica that each winner gets does have an open hole in the base, but the actual trophy that is awarded on grand final day has a baseplate with the NRL logo on it.

Sure, but it will still be hollow. That's the way you make bronze stuff. It's not sheet steel or anything; it'll be sand cast, about an inch thick, and hugely heavy.

Perhaps they photoshopped that picture to get a sponsor's logo off the baseplate or something. I thought that perhaps for the presentation they wouldn't care about the baseplate too much, but from those other pics, obviously not. It's also possible that "for display" a different baseplate is attached for things like, screwing it into the display stand when your club wins it. I've seen it up close, like most Easts fans - they had it in the foyer (!) of the club after 2002. There was no way you'd be running off with it.
 

Armageddon.

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The replica that each winner gets does have an open hole in the base, but the actual trophy that is awarded on grand final day has a baseplate with the NRL logo on it.

I've always wondered what happens there, ie replica trophy vs real trophy?
Do the team that wins get to keep the main one for 12 months till the next grand final or does it stay at NRL HQ?
 

stimpy u idiot

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Yeah...somewhat hollow...the base was removable....Im wondering if the hexagonal engraved badges were actually screwed/bolted on....and as TVOR said....its surprisingly heavy

From memory of looking at it in the club ten years ago now, I had the impression they may have been glued or soldered onto it?
 

sensesmaybenumbed

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Sure, but it will still be hollow. That's the way you make bronze stuff. It's not sheet steel or anything; it'll be sand cast, about an inch thick, and hugely heavy.

Perhaps they photoshopped that picture to get a sponsor's logo off the baseplate or something. I thought that perhaps for the presentation they wouldn't care about the baseplate too much, but from those other pics, obviously not. It's also possible that "for display" a different baseplate is attached for things like, screwing it into the display stand when your club wins it. I've seen it up close, like most Easts fans - they had it in the foyer (!) of the club after 2002. There was no way you'd be running off with it.

Yes, it is hollow, no argument there. It's photoshopped to remove the old NRL logo.

I've always wondered what happens there, ie replica trophy vs real trophy?
Do the team that wins get to keep the main one for 12 months till the next grand final or does it stay at NRL HQ?

They get to keep it until the semis next year.
 

Canard

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Yeah, but bullshit. First the "left" side isn't "east" until you take in account that it's actually the "right" side of the person wearing the device on their uniform. The simplest solution is actually that heraldry is the basis for logo design and especially the logo design of sporting teams. Australian national sporting teams often have the national coat of arms on their uniform. And the England football side uses the three lions passant guardant from the royal arms of the English crown! and which way do you think they face?

The simplest solution is that the facing toward the right shoulder of the bearer (left to the viewer) is the 'normal' way to represent these things.

The Rabbit, courant, faces 'east'

The Sea Eagle, displayed and elevated, faces 'east'.

The Eel, regardant, turns its head to the 'east'

The Bulldog, statant and gardant, faces 'east' (only slightly)

St.George, rampant, faces 'east' and his dragon, rampant, also faces 'east' (this particular team logo should impress upon you how much based on heraldry these things are!).

The Knight's helm, couped, faces 'east'

The Titan, the Tiger, the Warrior, the Cowboy, the Panther and the Viking Raider are all gardant, (facing the viewer). The Tiger is salient gardant.

Only the Bronco, the Shark, and the Storm God face sinistre.

The Shark is embowed sinistre.

All of this east-facing can only mean ONE thing: EASTS TO WIN

WTF is sinistre ?

Even by LU standards this seems like a remarkably trivial matter
 

GAZF

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Yeah, but bullshit. First the "left" side isn't "east" until you take in account that it's actually the "right" side of the person wearing the device on their uniform. The simplest solution is actually that heraldry is the basis for logo design and especially the logo design of sporting teams. Australian national sporting teams often have the national coat of arms on their uniform. And the England football side uses the three lions passant guardant from the royal arms of the English crown! and which way do you think they face?

The simplest solution is that the facing toward the right shoulder of the bearer (left to the viewer) is the 'normal' way to represent these things.

The Rabbit, courant, faces 'east'

The Sea Eagle, displayed and elevated, faces 'east'.

The Eel, regardant, turns its head to the 'east'

The Bulldog, statant and gardant, faces 'east' (only slightly)

St.George, rampant, faces 'east' and his dragon, rampant, also faces 'east' (this particular team logo should impress upon you how much based on heraldry these things are!).

The Knight's helm, couped, faces 'east'

The Titan, the Tiger, the Warrior, the Cowboy, the Panther and the Viking Raider are all gardant, (facing the viewer). The Tiger is salient gardant.

Only the Bronco, the Shark, and the Storm God face sinistre.

The Shark is embowed sinistre.

All of this east-facing can only mean ONE thing: EASTS TO WIN

I can guarantee that most sports logos are not designed with heraldry in mind these days. The Sharks flipped directions with their last redesign.
 

innsaneink

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Seems to be a lot of away/alternate jumpers winning the big one just watching some highlites on TSFS
 

stimpy u idiot

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I can guarantee that most sports logos are not designed with heraldry in mind these days. The Sharks flipped directions with their last redesign.

of course, that's true, especially for the newer teams with no long term 'traditional' logo. nonetheless that is the origin of their form, nonetheless, and explains why a animal that points "left" is really pointing "right". an argument about which is what comprised a thread in this post.

even the mascots that are represented on sports logos are mainly nicked from heraldry; birds and beasts of prey, martial animals like horses and bulls, bits of armour (knights helmet, crossed swords on the titan's crest); mythological references (titan, a highly stylised zeus wielding thunderbolts on the storm's logo, st george and the dragon); even rabbits and roosters appear in medieval armorial designs. the only one really squarely outside that tradition is probably the warrior's quasi-maori design. but the idea of a picture that represents a person or a unit is a long one that descends directly from heraldry.

logos in general come from there, via the old english pub signs designed for a mostly illiterate population (hence meet me at the 'elephant and castle', literally a sign with an elephant and a castle tower on it ... and i bet pubs like "the queens arms" and "salisbury's arms" literally had the armorial device so indicated on it!).

but of course modern logo design is completely disconnected, at least consciously, from such concerns. but it doesn't mean this doesn't exert some influence on modern designs. for a start, many team logos are still reproduced on a shield shape, or have elements that hark to a shield (although circles are popular too).

anyway, that's enough. it's just to explain that the rooster really does face 'east' and why the left of the viewer is regarded as the right (or 'east') of the logo.
 

Armageddon.

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nonetheless that is the origin of their form, nonetheless, and explains why a animal that points "left" is really pointing "right".


Congratulations on being the first person ever to use the word 'nonetheless' twice in the same sentence.
 
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stimpy u idiot

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Congratulations on being the first person ever to use the word 'nonetheless' twice in the same sentence.

like, whatever.
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