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2015 WORLD CUP FINAL: Australia v New Zealand at MCG Sunday 29th March 2015

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Desert Qlder said:
It is easy to look good playing at home all the time.

The bubble has burst and they have a long way to go to prove themselves as a serious cricket nation playing away from the cosy confines of Eden park, the cake tin and the other backyards they play on.
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Look, we congratulate Aust - well done... as I said earlier, thoroughly outplayed us last night and deserved to win the game

But seriously? Aust played one game outside Aust in this World Cup, and lost it... that would seem to be exactly the same as us... except the game you played away wasn't the final
 
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JJ said:
Look, we congratulate Aust - well done... as I said earlier, thoroughly outplayed us last night and deserved to win the game

But seriously? Aust played one game outside Aust in this World Cup, and lost it... that would seem to be exactly the same as us... except the game you played away wasn't the final
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I have no doubt we went to NZ to win that group game, but the preparation, tactics and mental application would have been totally different had it been a final. To suggest otherwise is nonesense

I remember a couple of aussies who have won world cups eg hussy, brett lee, say along the lines that there is no need to play your best in the group stages, as long as you build, do enough to make the sudden death games, you then ramp things up from there, it is in these sudden death games Australia have been faultless, similar to how kiwis have been in the group stages.
 
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chigurh said:
Wasn't there some kiwi dope that kept banging on about what an "average" Aussie side this was? :lol:

Most sides struggled big time with their 5th bowler/7th batsmen balance, while Australia left out Mitch Marsh.

Dominated South Africa, dominated the Tri Series, and dominated the big moments in the World Cup. You beauty!
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If we are average, then the other sides are what? world champions? LOL
 
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TheParraboy said:
I have no doubt we went to NZ to win that group game, but the preparation, tactics and mental application would have been totally different had it been a final. To suggest otherwise is nonesense

I remember a couple of aussies who have won world cups eg hussy, brett lee, say along the lines that there is no need to play your best in the group stages, as long as you build, do enough to make the sudden death games, you then ramp things up from there, it is in these sudden death games Australia have been faultless, similar to how kiwis have been in the group stages.
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Think we're agreeing - Australia went up a notch for the death games, so did we for the first two, at the end of the day you were far too good yesterday, but we are certainly are better than that performance... At the end of the day the best team the World Cup, I have no qualms with that - but the second best one was the other finalist

At the start of the power play we had fought back into it, Taylor's wicket was big, and the heat went on... and we simply didn't cope.

We had one bad game in the World Cup - real shame it was that one - partly the occasion I am sure, partly the impressive Australian bowlers. But, again, we had a tremendous WC, and they played great cricket all the way through
 
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Great result for the Aussies. Well done to the Kiwi's for getting there and putting on a tremendous display throughout the tournament. Just a shame they didn't play as well as they could have last night.
 
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Inspiring effort by our bowlers who strangled India on Thursday and did it again to the Kiwis last night.

Alot to do with Starc's form but he was well backed up by Haze and even Johnson has bowled well as did Faulkner.

The Kiwis are better than that and didn't handle the big stage too well but will be better off for the experience.
 
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NZ will taste Cricket World Cup glory one day,don't know when that will be but it will happen,they seem to get closer and closer every World Cup,2019 in England could be the one,Williamson and Boult will be in there prime's then so that's something to look forward too.
 
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Australia were way too classy in the end. Apart from that shitkicker Aaron Finch there isn't a weak link in the entire team.

It'd have to be one of the most powerful and devastating ODI teams of all-time. Warner, Smith, Clarke, Watto, Maxwell, Faulkner, Starc and Johnson are all match winners on their day... with bat, ball, in the field or a combination of both.

They just come at you all day. So well deserved. Fortunately for everyone else the likes of Watto, Faulkner, Maxwell and Starc can't perform like that in Test cricket!
 
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Tommy Smith said:
Australia were way too classy in the end. Apart from that shitkicker Aaron Finch there isn't a weak link in the entire team.

It'd have to be one of the most powerful and devastating ODI teams of all-time. Warner, Smith, Clarke, Watto, Maxwell, Faulkner, Starc and Johnson are all match winners on their day... with bat, ball, in the field or a combination of both.

They just come at you all day. So well deserved. Fortunately for everyone else the likes of Watto, Faulkner, Maxwell and Starc can't perform like that in Test cricket!
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NZ will be hoping Finch sticks around in the Aussie lineup for another 10 years,he has no idea against there classy swing bowling
 
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I think Starc will do that in test cricket, he has improved so much in the last 12 months.

How do you fit Harris into the test line up ?

And Patto as well.

Haze was our best test bowler so they cant really drop him, gonna be hard to pick out best attack for the Ashes.
 
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I think Starc will do that in test cricket, he has improved so much in the last 12 months.

How do you fit Harris into the test line up ?

And Patto as well.

Haze was our best test bowler so they cant really drop him, gonna be hard to pick out best attack for the Ashes.
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Harris has to be the first picked, surely?

Johnson could be the one under pressure - but he was good in the final.

Starc is like the anti-Boult - Boult had not been part of the ODI team until just before the WC and people said he was a red ball bowler only... WRONG

Starc has all the components - unlike other fine white ball specialists (Bracken and Mills come to mind) he has pace... but, in saying that, when there's less pressure to score does he go searching too much? That's what Boult and Southee do so well, they just keep building pressure, Boult's spells to Sangakarra in the recent tests were magnificent
 
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JJ said:
Harris has to be the first picked, surely?

Johnson could be the one under pressure - but he was good in the final.

Starc is like the anti-Boult - Boult had not been part of the ODI team until just before the WC and people said he was a red ball bowler only... WRONG

Starc has all the components - unlike other fine white ball specialists (Bracken and Mills come to mind) he has pace... but, in saying that, when there's less pressure to score does he go searching too much? That's what Boult and Southee do so well, they just keep building pressure, Boult's spells to Sangakarra in the recent tests were magnificent
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No chance Johnson gets dropped from the test team. There's no other bowler in the world that can make something happen and change a game like he can.

Harris, Johnson, Starc and Lyon for me. Hazlewood next on the list to come in if needed.
 
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Starc has been consistently shit in test cricket and consistently good in ODI's. Not sure this tournament should change that a heap. Harris Johnson and Hazlewood/Patto would be my fast bowlers still.

Anyway, a good performance. Good to win another one.

Southee unfortunately didn't really perform (although he started reasonably), better test bowler. Boult is an awesome bowler.

2019 should have both sides strong again, given all the young quicks (hazlewood, Starc, Boult, Southee, Milne, Henry) should all be at their peak at that point.

Hopefully Haddin, Watson leave the ODI setup also now. Maybe Johnson as well.

Johnson was really good in both finals I thought.

Really enjoyed how the kiwi's played cricket. Looking forward to their test series against England. Still some mild concern over the strength of their batting, given they lack a second opener.

Kane Williamson seemed to run out of steam this tournament unfortunately for them, and Taylor got slowly better and kept fighting but he just looks off at present, falling over his front pad a bit.
 
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