2016 Crowd Watch

[Last Week]

Things aren't going to change anytime soon. Thursday and monday this year then the BS thursday then fri 6pm next year.

How could they even quantify the success of a 6pm game. The ratings and crowds will bomb so unless they walk around counting heads at the pubs across the land then there is no way to know

Cannot get my head around it. Worst idea ever

My only thinking is that Fox are trying to play a game of chicken with the NRL over it. Hoping that the NRL want it moved to Sunday night first, before they do. That way, Fox won't have to pay any extra for another prime time match.

 

[pHyR3]

13678 @ foot of mtns





Imho

much better than mondays id guess

 

[Perth Red]

Two local teams from RL's biggest region in the world getting sub 15k. The NRL is getting it so so wrong. You can't even say it's worth it for getting the tv money given clubs are still unsustainable and the NRL lost a sht load of money last year.

 

[Frank Discussion]

When are you going to wake up and realise the NRL really doesn't care about crowds that much?

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

When are you going to wake up and realise the NRL really doesn't care about crowds that much?

If that's the case then the NRL is the only code in the world to promote non-attendence and be purely TV sport. With Thursday/Monday this season and the absurd 6pm Friday game next year it be tough for the NRL to embrace attendance.

Other sporting codes focus on attendance and TV, while NRL focused on TV only by the looks of it.

 

[BuffaloRules]

If that's the case then the NRL is the only code in the world to promote non-attendence and be purely TV sport. With Thursday/Monday this season and the absurd 6pm Friday game next year it be tough for the NRL to embrace attendance.

Other sporting codes focus on attendance and TV, while NRL focused on TV only by the looks of it.

So who is to blame then?

Wil the clubs and players accept less money for a more crowd friendly draw?

That's the bottom line..

 

[Perth Red]

Funny I don't see afl, NFL, EPL or other codes with massive crowds AND good scheduling compromising on TV $'s. What makes you think we have to? That is the NRL's problem, it still doesn't see what value the game has. We keep accepting lower money than we are worth AND sht schedules. I could live with one if it meant the other was significantly better but at moment they are both crap.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Comparing NRL to EPL and NFL is stupid...

 

[Cumberland Throw]

It was like 11200 ... Looked more

Not that bad on a Thursday

Let's be honest

 

[some11]

Broncos v Warriors pax as of 4 hours ago - 39,220.

Crowd will be 37,000 - 40,000.

over 40,200 when I bought mine tonight, plus there should be a few walk-ups.

 

[BlueandGold]

Funny I don't see afl, NFL, EPL or other codes with massive crowds AND good scheduling compromising on TV $'s. What makes you think we have to? That is the NRL's problem, it still doesn't see what value the game has. We keep accepting lower money than we are worth AND sht schedules. I could live with one if it meant the other was significantly better but at moment they are both crap.

6 Year NRL 2006-2012 500M 83m a year
5 Year AFL 2006-2011 780M 156m a year
Difference is 73m or nearly double the NRL

5y NRL 2013, 1.1B 220m a year
5y AFL 2012 1.25b, 250m a year - 205m losses for expansion = 1.05b
Difference is 10m annually in favor of NRL

5y NRL 1.95B, 390M a year
6y AFL 2.5b, 414m a year, now assuming losses continue (260m over 6y) = 2.24b/ 6y = 373m annually
Difference is 17m annually in favor of the NRL

Are you starting to see a pattern here champ?

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

over 40,200 when I bought mine tonight, plus there should be a few walk-ups.

I usually shave about 3,000 off what the pax is game day morning to account for no shows.

Hoping we wake up to a great day tomorrow.

 

[Perth Red]

Lol the pattern is you can make stats say whatever you like. What afl decides to spend its extra money on is irrevelant to how Australian media values the two codes. Last deal the Australian media value gap was around 50m a year. This deal the gap is $66mill when you take out naming rights value.

The cold harsh reality is NRL got less money and a far worse schedule.

 

[Timmah]

Supply and demand. The NRL tried rationalising the competition once and wound up in court, and thus are too afraid to do it again. As it stands even one week in the Sydney basin is already full to the brim of NRL games - there's two within 5km of each other on Saturday night, another on Sunday afternoon and then again on Monday, plus tonight's game. The casual fan is spoiled for choice and will likely choose the most exciting or 'event' game. Hence why games like next Friday's Dogs/Eels will be 25-35k.

Yeah, scheduling plays a part - but until there are *gasp* less teams in Sydney (and better marketing), averages won't rise dramatically.

 

[Billythekid]

Supply and demand. The NRL tried rationalising the competition once and wound up in court, and thus are too afraid to do it again. As it stands even one week in the Sydney basin is already full to the brim of NRL games - there's two within 5km of each other on Saturday night, another on Sunday afternoon and then again on Monday, plus tonight's game. The casual fan is spoiled for choice and will likely choose the most exciting or 'event' game. Hence why games like next Friday's Dogs/Eels will be 25-35k.

Yeah, scheduling plays a part - but until there are *gasp* less teams in Sydney (and better marketing), averages won't rise dramatically.

The amount of teams in Sydney doesn't help but that alone isn't the biggest problem. Your post just reads like one massive excuse. Do teams really need to really on neutrals to be able to get more than 11k people to a game? If so perhaps the NRL just isn't as popular as we all like to think. Also 25-35k is hardly a monster crowd, if that's the result of pent up demand from other matches that's pretty sad in itself.

I also think an argument like this falls flat when you look at the AFL. They have more teams in an even smaller city and their crowds are huge in comparison.

IMO there are multiple reasons for this problem. There's the poor schedule, expensive tickets, lack of advertising for games, poor match day experience and just a lack of people who actually want to go watch an NRL game live. It doesn't help that when they do go the crowd is small and the atmosphere poor and get turned away from the game.

Removing a couple of teams from Sydney wouldn't do shit to help the crowd average (for a start it doesn't explain Canberra, Melbourne, GC, NZ and co's crowds).

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Hopefully these crap, sharp but small showers bail out come afternoon.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Ticketek has crashed. AFL tickets went on sale today with a waiver for any fees, due to the site failing last week. Now it's crashed again haha.

 

[Front-Rower]

Why would you go to an NRL game when for $60 a month you get to watch 32 games a month on average (8 games * 4 weeks) in HD on Fox.

It costs me the best part of $60 to go to one game at Leichhardt or Campbelltown.

Cost and TV are the biggest problem.

 

[Perth Red]

why would you got to a concert for $169-$400 when you can buy and download the album for $20 and listen in the comfort of your own home?

Cost is just one factor and probably not the most important when you see how cheap memberships work out per game at some clubs.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

Suncorp very empty at the moment. Surely will fill out...