2016 Match Review Committee / Judiciary

[East Coast Tiger]

Having read about the James incident I assumed he must have done a Hopoate on Galloway. Then today I actually saw it. One of the most innocuous high shots you would see. He's unlucky to be charged at all. "But but but broken jaw" means f**k all. The fact his jaw is broken and he's one of the competition's current darlings is probably the only reason for any charge.

 

[Clifferd]

It's the fact you can brush a referee by accident and get the exact same suspension

Or like vic said one of the weakest crusher tackles by Tim Simona you'll ever see and get 3

 

[East Coast Tiger]

That's another issue completely. The number of players being suspended in general should probably be half of what it is. Virtually all charges are for accidental, or at least incidental, things that happen in the game.

 

[TheFrog]

Then today I actually saw it. One of the most innocuous high shots you would see. He's unlucky to be charged at all.

If there's one thing the Alex McKinnon incident should have taught us, it's that how spectacular an incident looks on TV has absolutely no bearing on the level of injury it can inflict.

Given that a serious injury has occurred as a result of foul play, it is ludicrous that the sanction against the player responsible should not reflect that fact.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

If there's one thing the Alex McKinnon incident should have taught us, it's that how spectacular an incident looks on TV has absolutely no bearing on the level of injury it can inflict.

Given that a serious injury has occurred as a result of foul play, it is ludicrous that the sanction against the player responsible should not reflect that fact.

Um, the one thing it proves is that injuries should have no bearing on punishments, for that very reason. The seriousness of injuries are generally unrelated to the seriousness or even illegality of the incident.

 

[no name]

Ryan James was charged with the same grade as Tapau was for his hit on Jack Bird.
Both should have got more.

 

[Timmah]

Full charge list from Saturday:

Saturday | Wests Tigers v Titans

David Shillington (Titans) receives a Grade 1 Dangerous Contact charge. A base penalty of 100 points would see him miss a week if he challenged unsuccessfully at the judiciary, but can escape suspension with an early plea (75).

Ryan James (Titans) hit with a Grade 2 Careless High Tackle for his 60th minute low hit onJames Tedesco. It carries a 125 point base penalty, which is bumped up to 150 points on 20% loading for a prior non-similar offence. An early plea sees him miss one week, as does a challenge at judiciary without success.

Saturday | Warriors v Rabbitohs

Zane Musgrove (Rabbitohs) committed a Grade 1 Shoulder Charge in the 14th minute onAlbert Vete and with the base penalty of 200 points, would need to take the early plea to only serve 1 week (150 pts). A two week layoff awaits if he challenges at the judiciary and fails.

http://leagueunlimited.com/news/28970-nrl-match-review-round-23/

 

[Vic Mackey]

Um, the one thing it proves is that injuries should have no bearing on punishments, for that very reason. The seriousness of injuries are generally unrelated to the seriousness or even illegality of the incident.

Cool, so if someone drives through a red light, hits and kills someone they should get the same punishment as someone who drives through a red light and no one gets hurt.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Cool, so if someone drives through a red light, hits and kills someone they should get the same punishment as someone who drives through a red light and no one gets hurt.

Does that happen a lot in a rugby league field?

f**k the game really has changed.

Maybe they should charge players based on the amount of butt hurt they cause. He'd be banned for life.

 

[Card Shark]

Grade 2 careless high tackle - base points 125

Grade 1 shoulder charge - base penalty points 200

What tha?

 

[Danish]

So what penalty for Waqa Blake?

The NRL set the bar for charging people with late tackles, so I'm assuming hitting someone about an hour before a ball lands must surely be "dangerous contact" as well, right?

 

[yobbo84]

I still can't believe Musgrove will miss a week for something that everybody, including Warriors fans, thought was a soft penalty.

The shoulder charge points were created when the only chargeable offences were shoulder charges to the head. Now that a shoulder on shoulder can accrue the same points, it's ridiculous.

 

[mave]

Are touch judges allowed to be brushed, as a player passes them ??

Seems its ok for that to happen, but a no-no if its the ref.

NRL consistently inconsistent.

 

[Timmah]

Cool, so if someone drives through a red light, hits and kills someone they should get the same punishment as someone who drives through a red light and no one gets hurt.

While I'm on the side of injury being considered as part of punishment, isn't the general argument that injury shouldn't form part of the MRC's consideration?

Also - that analogy is f**king hopeless.

 

[Ar$eClowns]

You said in the game thread it was a send off.

Simona got 3 fcking weeks for the most innocuous crusher tackle I've ever seen yet a swinging arm that hits a guy flush in the jaw and breaks it in 2 places gets 1 fcking week?!?

Hayne also touched the red AGAIN (there's photos on Twitter of it) and gets nothing

We know who the NRL want the Cinderella story from this year.

Not to mention the NRL OWNs THE TITANS! There was a massive media campaign to hammer Parra from pillar to post (yes they were a shambles), but they did everything they could to ensure that Parra was out of the running for Hayne if, and when he came back.

 

[TheFrog]

Waqa Blake charged with a Grade 1 Dangerous Contact. Free to play next week with an early guilty plea. Can't really complain too much about this. It was pretty poor timing even though if it had not been early the tackle would have been OK.

Other similar tackles off the ball have not even attracted a penalty, let alone a charge. Most memorably the one that put Te Maire Martin out for 3/4 of the season.

 

[skeepe]

I think Blake's pretty hard done by considering it was a Knights blocker that bumped him and basically caused the collision

 

[Caped Crusader]

So what penalty for Waqa Blake?

The NRL set the bar for charging people with late tackles, so I'm assuming hitting someone about an hour before a ball lands must surely be "dangerous contact" as well, right?

Nah it was on a Newcastle player. That player also has weird hair and yells a lot

 

[Timmah]

Sunday | Knights v Panthers

Waqa Blake (Panthers) has been issued a Grade 1 Dangerous Contact charge from his opening minute hit on Newcastle's Jake Mamo. The penalty of 100 base points reduces to 75 with an early plea, so Blake will only miss a match if he challenges the charge unsuccessfully at the judiciary.

RESULT: James Graham pleads guilty and will miss no game time. 0 weeks

RESULT: Shillington pleads guilty and will miss no game time. 0 weeks.

RESULT: Ryan James will plead not guilty to the charge and is set to contest it in full at judiciary during the week. TBC at Judiciary.

RESULT: Musgrove has taken the early plea and will miss Monday's clash with Cronulla. One week.

More info http://leagueunlimited.com/news/28970-nrl-match-review-round-23/

 

[betcats]

So what penalty for Waqa Blake?

The NRL set the bar for charging people with late tackles, so I'm assuming hitting someone about an hour before a ball lands must surely be "dangerous contact" as well, right?

Sit down, he got charged despite being helped along by the Knights blocker.