2018 Crowd Watch

[Perth Red]

Rd 8 summary
Anzac Day
St’s v roosters 41,142
Storm v nz 25,731

Thurs
Sths v broncos 11,123

Fri
Manly v knights 5,715
Panthers v Bulldogs 13,760

Sat
Titans v sharks 12,713
NQ v raiders 14,004

Sun
Eels v Wests 17,555

Total 141,743 (2016 Anzac rd 149,524)
Avg 17,717

 

[Stallion]

Mate I am a terrible speller, and there are aspects grammatically that I constantly have to check and self correct. I was more stirring stallion up over his constant promotion of himself as a teacher despite his grammatical failings, though if he was in my school I would hope not to see the misuse of homonyms in his writing. Over the recent holidays he and I have been arguing on and off in a number of threads, but I think he would agree it has all been fairly good natured.

I think in one thread I implied he was a fat, unfit, low level touch football player due to wanting to reintroduce the play the ball.

Just to nip it in the bud. I have been a respondent to people whom have looked up.my profile. You will find that others have referred to my occupation and I merely have responded appropriately. Definitely not talking myself up but still very cognisant of where I'm at. And touch footy should bring back the play the ball! At least offer it in some formal "original"competition. That's my say. Goodnight.

 

[unforgiven]

Absolutely . The face to face visitation is not used enough by RL development officers . I've seen union, AFL repeatedly in various schools. I also don't think they sell the virtues/benefits of the game well. The self confidence aspect is not emphasized and thus to.my eye is where rugby league has failed to capitalize on in comparison to other less physical codes. Ive sighted two rugby league visits in five years of teaching. It's not good. I do think leaguetag needs to be pushed by time. It should be a PSSA sport asap. Plenty of parents I've met are very keen to have their kids play leaguetag. Something the rugby league development people need to follow up on if they are fairdinkum. Otherwise the kids are going to other codes.

Probably the wrong thread to be discussing it, we have Oztag , touch football and Rugby League as sports in my zone. We compete in both League and Touch Football in the winter months, but we struggle to get the numbers for Oztag in summer as our League kids typically play AFL, for the contact, or volleyball, very popular sport in the islander community.

This year we have had visits from both Rugby League and AFL, AFL ran a 6 week program with our classes ran by development officers. We had 3 NRL players come and visit, one a former student. The NRL visit was the most successful, but I do agree the NRL development officers need to be more active in promoting their programs and the game in general. It is their job to promote the game, not mine.

My favourite story from an AFL visit was the development officers gave one of our big islander boys an AFL ball, he replied "I will take your ball, but I'm going to go home play rugby league with it!"

 

[Perth Red]

I was hoping, with the clubs new found wealth this year, that we would see more dynamic ticket deals and better game day entertainment on offer. I wonder where that extra $3million a club is going??

 

[supercharger]

it isn't

its dead on
lazy , passionless bandwagon riders

It's absolute horse shit
Even in bigger leagues the concept of your key fan being the season-ticket holder who attends every home game is an outdated one. Season-ticket holders are obviously important, and teams do need them (and do need to work on building their season-ticket holder bases). However, there are other fans who follow the team closely and maybe go to a big game or two a year, while there are yet others who may watch the whole season from their couch, but buy team merchandise, drive up the TV ratings and promote the sport. These fans are awfully important to your teams success too.
As the ratings show, there are far more fans of the NRL than merely the ones show up in person for any given game. Some of that's thanks to time and money (attending a game can get very expensive on both fronts, especially when you throw in travel, food, parking, et cetera, while some of it's because the experience of watching on TV can be just as fun (including commentary, replays, etc). Yes, there are some season-ticket holders who have the time and money to go to every single home game in person, but the NRL would be in rough shape if those were its only fans. So it's complete horse shit to discount fans that don't attend games!

 

[footy75]

Absolutely . The face to face visitation is not used enough by RL development officers . I've seen union, AFL repeatedly in various schools. I also don't think they sell the virtues/benefits of the game well. The self confidence aspect is not emphasized and this to.my eye is where rugby league has failed to capitalize on in comparison to other less physical codes. I've sighted two rugby league visits in five years of teaching. It's not good. I do think leaguetag needs to be pushed big time. It should be a PSSA sport asap. Plenty of parents I've met are very keen to have their kids play leaguetag. Something the rugby league development people need to follow up on if they are fairdinkum. Otherwise the kids are going to other codes.

why why why???

Does the NRL not have the funding Union and AFL has or is the development within in schools an area that is overlooked/neglected ?

or maybe this was just the schools/ areas u were in...

 

[Raiderdave]

It's absolute horse shit
Even in bigger leagues the concept of your key fan being the season-ticket holder who attends every home game is an outdated one. Season-ticket holders are obviously important, and teams do need them (and do need to work on building their season-ticket holder bases). However, there are other fans who follow the team closely and maybe go to a big game or two a year, while there are yet others who may watch the whole season from their couch, but buy team merchandise, drive up the TV ratings and promote the sport. These fans are awfully important to your teams success too.
As the ratings show, there are far more fans of the NRL than merely the ones show up in person for any given game. Some of that's thanks to time and money (attending a game can get very expensive on both fronts, especially when you throw in travel, food, parking, et cetera, while some of it's because the experience of watching on TV can be just as fun (including commentary, replays, etc). Yes, there are some season-ticket holders who have the time and money to go to every single home game in person, but the NRL would be in rough shape if those were its only fans. So it's complete horse shit to discount fans that don't attend games!

I said you babbling twit
if you live in the city where your team plays , in some cases near where they play
& choose the TV over attending
you are a lazy pretend supporter

too many of these in Sydney
got it

good

 

[Raiderdave]

Here’s a crowd figure for you
Sharks home games 2018 = 51245
Raiders home games 2018 = 48717

Same amount of games.

Surprise surprise smaller

a measly 2500... it should be 10000 for the premiers of just over a year ago
we started the season 0-4
& have had a Thursday night & a Cyclone

we win relatively speaking
yaaaaaayyyyyy

Oh &
don't even mention memberships
LOL

 

[Raiderdave]

You have the luxury of not one single opposition team within 1000 kms
Plus about 100k more people that Cronulla
Yet we still got more without a big stadium
We didn’t even need the big stupid horn either.

you have the luxury of 5 million people to help pad your crowds within 50kms of your stadium
you won the comp in 2016
yet your crowds are still crap lol

 

[carcharias]

a measly 2500... it should be 10000 for the premiers of just over a year ago
we started the season 0-4
& have had a Thursday night & a Cyclone

we win relatively speaking
yaaaaaayyyyyy

Oh &
don't even mention memberships
LOL

Haha

We’ve had a Thursday night as well dopey.

You’ve got the stadium
No NRL competition within cooee
Way more locals

Yet ... we’ve had bigger crowds.

But but it rained.
Lazy merkins in Canberra probably just watch from the lounge

 

[carcharias]

you have the luxury of 5 million people to help pad your crowds within 50kms of your stadium
you won the comp in 2016
yet your crowds are still crap lol

Mate the raiders would have about 100 fans if they had 3 of the oldest and most successful clubs in the game completely surrounding them.

Geeze you’re really running out the excuses this morning.

 

[Stallion]

why why why???

Does the NRL not have the funding Union and AFL has or is the development within in schools an area that is overlooked/neglected ?

or maybe this was just the schools/ areas u were in...

Lack of funding. One small unit(2 or 3 employees from memory?) are given the task to run "Backyard league" for the Hunter region. That's it. Nothing else.

 

[Stallion]

I was hoping, with the clubs new found wealth this year, that we would see more dynamic ticket deals and better game day entertainment on offer. I wonder where that extra $3million a club is going??

I'd suggest the money has been wasted. If going by general entry ticket prices to games outside of ANZ stadium ($35 at Brookvale etc), it's not being used to alleviate fan costs and definitely not to attract any more to a game. That's for sure!

 

[Stallion]

Probably the wrong thread to be discussing it, we have Oztag , touch football and Rugby League as sports in my zone. We compete in both League and Touch Football in the winter months, but we struggle to get the numbers for Oztag in summer as our League kids typically play AFL, for the contact, or volleyball, very popular sport in the islander community.

This year we have had visits from both Rugby League and AFL, AFL ran a 6 week program with our classes ran by development officers. We had 3 NRL players come and visit, one a former student. The NRL visit was the most successful, but I do agree the NRL development officers need to be more active in promoting their programs and the game in general. It is their job to promote the game, not mine.

My favourite story from an AFL visit was the development officers gave one of our big islander boys an AFL ball, he replied "I will take your ball, but I'm going to go home play rugby league with it!"

My favourite story is recent : At the start of a Friday a year six boy at the back of the room voiced aloud a question to me: " Did you watch the AFL last night?" I responded with " I don't watch training runs" A few minutes later another boy said "How are Knights going to go this season?"

 

[Chook Norris]

No . You are the embarrassment you peanut! Fancy thinking their is no marketing issue when only a 17000 turn up for two attractive local Sydney clubs with no opposition or other games on in Sydney? Keep wallowing in your gutter dummy! Lazy marketing is a main factor in this poor turn out. Turn a blind eye to that and you are truelly a fool.

Jesus. It's purely culture related and also ANZ being shit. Not marketing. There is a strong culture of apathy towards the game which leads to laziness in attending.

The default for most fans is highlighted through the culture of thinking 'I can stay at home and watch this. I don't need to go to the game. Especially not at ANZ'. This cannot be denied.

It would take an immense amount of marketing and cheap af ticket prices to change 17k to a 50k crowd; which is simply not practical every single time you want a big crowd.

The solution is through generational change. Not overly expensive marketing.

There is also already a crap load of marketing on social media where the NRL has several millions of followers. So your argument is truly invalid.

 

[Stallion]

Jesus. It's purely culture related and also ANZ being shit. Not marketing. There is a strong culture of apathy towards the game which leads to laziness in attending.

The default for most fans is highlighted through the culture of thinking 'I can stay at home and watch this. I don't need to go to the game. Especially not at ANZ'. This cannot be denied.

It would take an immense amount of marketing and cheap af ticket prices to change 17k to a 50k crowd; which is simply not practical every single time you want a big crowd.

The solution is through generational change. Not overly expensive marketing.

There is also already a crap load of marketing on social media where the NRL has several millions of followers. So your argument is truly invalid.

Dissagree. Effective marketing is part of the issue. The other factors are also part of the scenario. It's not just one cause. It's a combination. The easier fix one is marketing.

 

[Chook Norris]

Dissagree. Effective marketing is part of the issue. The other factors are also part of the scenario. It's not just one cause. It's a combination. The easier fix one is marketing.

The NRLs Facebook page already conducts marketing to over 1.4 million fans posting upcoming matches and highlights from previous encounters.

Club fan pages also regularly establish match event pages which notify people where upcoming games are. I think the NRL do social media very well and have an outstanding reach. Social media is exactly where the focus of marketing should be done and it's already being done by the NRL.

Aside from that, are you really going to say the difference between NRL and AFL crowds are in marketing ? Again, the answer is culture. Culture trumps marketing as a factor by so far it isn't even funny.

You don't get a heap of AFL fans in Melbourne thinking 'oh I saw an ad about the game. I will go'. They go because of the collective culture towards attendance of those around them.

If this discussion is about what is more important as a factor for crowds, you seriously cannot still be arguing that marketing plays a more important part than culture.

 

[Stallion]

The NRLs Facebook page already conducts marketing to over 1.4 million fans posting upcoming matches and highlights from previous encounters.

Club fan pages also regularly establish match event pages which notify people where upcoming games are. I think the NRL do social media very well and have an outstanding reach. Social media is exactly where the focus of marketing should be done and it's already being done by the NRL.

Aside from that, are you really going to say the difference between NRL and AFL crowds are in marketing ? Again, the answer is culture. Culture trumps marketing as a factor by so far it isn't even funny.

You don't get a heap of AFL fans in Melbourne thinking 'oh I saw an ad about the game. I will go'. They go because of the collective culture towards attendance of those around them.

If this discussion is about what is more important as a factor for crowds, you seriously cannot still be arguing that marketing plays a more important part than culture.

Lol. NRL Facebook does not attract other/extra new fans. The neutrals have no idea of what is going on! The AFL have the added advantage of universal acceptance in all schooling (Public and private -elite included ) This gives that code relevance to all demographics moreso than rugby league which is confined to mostly a lower socioeconomic demographic. Granted there are people whom are attracted to the game from different demographics but not as much as compared to Aust rules. Another factor peculiar to Sydney is that it is not an easy city to travel around. I note most of the stadiums on Melbourne have a train line servicing them. This is not so for most Sydney football venues.

 

[Clifferd]

Lol. NRL Facebook does not attract other/extra new fans. The neutrals have no idea of what is going on! The AFL have the added advantage of universal acceptance in all schooling (Public and private -elite included ) This gives that code relevance to all demographics moreso than rugby league which is confined to mostly a lower socioeconomic demographic. Granted there are people whom are attracted to the game from different demographics but not as much as compared to Aust rules. Another factor peculiar to Sydney is that it is not an easy city to travel around. I note most of the stadiums on Melbourne have a train line servicing them. This is not so for most Sydney football venues.

Shouldn’t you be teaching mate?

 

[footy75]

Shouldn’t you be teaching mate?

kids are doing hush and colour, old mates on the forum.