2018 Jerseys/Logos/Sponsorships

[The Marshall]

It is interesting to note the 'Dogs ISP jersey still had Jaycar on the back last weekend you'd think they wouldn't give them any free exposure after the way they cut the sponsorship.

 

[Frailty]

It is interesting to note the 'Dogs ISP jersey still had Jaycar on the back last weekend you'd think they wouldn't give them any free exposure after the way they cut the sponsorship.

As per the previous page, Jaycar's sponsorship was already decided to not be renewed earlier in the season - NOT as a result of the Mad Monday uproar.

 

[The Marshall]

As per the previous page, Jaycar's sponsorship was already decided to not be renewed earlier in the season - NOT as a result of the Mad Monday uproar.

They have removed the logo from the website so you'd think they would take it off the jersey too.

 

[kdalymc]

It is interesting to note the 'Dogs ISP jersey still had Jaycar on the back last weekend you'd think they wouldn't give them any free exposure after the way they cut the sponsorship.

Do you mean Newtown? They both look the same

 

[Illawarra Tiger]

I can't belive all of this talk about the "clash". It is not a new thing. What did Newtown and Canterbury do when they went head to head for their 101 NSWRL first grade games? Please note there would have been times that Canterbury did wear the butcher stripes.

 

[Saint Doc]

I can't belive all of this talk about the "clash". It is not a new thing. What did Newtown and Canterbury do when they went head to head for their 101 NSWRL first grade games? Please note there would have been times that Canterbury did wear the butcher stripes.

So because it was shit back then, we should continue it now?

It’s called progress.

 

[Timmah]

I can't belive all of this talk about the "clash". It is not a new thing. What did Newtown and Canterbury do when they went head to head for their 101 NSWRL first grade games? Please note there would have been times that Canterbury did wear the butcher stripes.

The overwhelming majority of those games weren't televised for a start.

 

[The Marshall]

I can't belive all of this talk about the "clash". It is not a new thing. What did Newtown and Canterbury do when they went head to head for their 101 NSWRL first grade games? Please note there would have been times that Canterbury did wear the butcher stripes.

I always find it stupid that the Bulldogs and Dragons had no trouble playing in the traditional vee's up until 2000 the all of a sudden they clashed.

 

[Illawarra Tiger]

So because it was shit back then, we should continue it now?

It’s called progress.

It wasn’t shit then. Each team had simple iconic jerseys and everyone know who was playing who. On the rare occasion a clash jersey may have been Used. (which was usually the opposite of their home jersey used). Eg penrith has mainly brown with white sleeves, west’s had a white jersey with a black v. I don’t see how having a plethora of jersies with no real identity is called progress!

 

[Illawarra Tiger]

The overwhelming majority of those games weren't televised for a start.

....yes and they also had black and white TV but you still new who was who!

 

[Cumberland Throw]

I always find it stupid that the Bulldogs and Dragons had no trouble playing in the traditional vee's up until 2000 the all of a sudden they clashed.

They are red and blue ffs

Who can't work that out

 

[GAZF]

I can't belive all of this talk about the "clash". It is not a new thing. What did Newtown and Canterbury do when they went head to head for their 101 NSWRL first grade games? Please note there would have been times that Canterbury did wear the butcher stripes.

A big part of it is making the sport accessible to new audiences across different platforms. We can all tell who's playing who (most of the time) because we're rusted on fans. But its not as easy for brand new audiences to distinguish. Clear contrast between teams on the field is the easiest way of achieving this.

That accessibility extends to a whole range of aspects - social media engagement, game day entertainment, cross-promotions, etc... There's a thread with over 100 posts discussing who's playing a 4 minute song before this year's grand final. They exhume GG Allin and prop him up on stage for all I care but I understand why the NRL is doing it - they're not selling the product to us, they're selling to people who haven't bought in.

 

[kdalymc]

@GAZF what do you think about this moving forward

 

[Timmah]

It wasn’t shit then. Each team had simple iconic jerseys and everyone know who was playing who. On the rare occasion a clash jersey may have been Used. (which was usually the opposite of their home jersey used). Eg penrith has mainly brown with white sleeves, west’s had a white jersey with a black v. I don’t see how having a plethora of jersies with no real identity is called progress!

If you posted this 5, 10 years ago, I'd agree.

But realistically, most clubs have a fairly solid core identity and home jersey - most have learned that fans appreciate classic, consistent and coherent designs.

Yes, there are annoying theme jerseys popping up too often, but as far as 'real identity' goes I actually think the NRL clubs as a whole are headed in the right direction.

 

[GAZF]

@GAZF what do you think about this moving forward
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Need clarification. Are you putting up a red herring or genuinely equating the NRL's contrast issue with that in international league?

 

[kdalymc]

Need clarification. Are you putting up a red herring or genuinely equating the NRL's contrast issue with that in international league?

In NRL this would be 100% a clash. We know it isn’t , and thankfully common sense provails.
But, with your formula, and with iPads/mobiles etc do you think this equates as a clash?

 

[GAZF]

In NRL this would be 100% a clash. We know it isn’t , and thankfully common sense provails.

I disagree so you'll have to forgive my lack of common sense.

But, with your formula, and with iPads/mobiles etc do you think this equates as a clash?

The two designs contrast poorly for the purposes I've been talking about today, in my opinion (dark jersey with light double V, dark shorts, dark+light hooped socks although NZ had different socks in the Denver test).

But you have to consider context before saying a clash in international football is the same as one in the NRL. One consists of a handful of matches a year and the other has over 200. One has had fairly static designs over decades that are more identifiable to a casual observer and the other chops and changes at will while adding in a number of alternates every year. One usually has minimal sponsors and the other has sponsors to the point that they can overwhelm the base design. I don't think that we should be saying that we can't implement a proper contrast strategy to the NRL just because there isn't one in international footy.

If international rugby league wants to take itself seriously and see extended growth, we will see the need arise for established teams to adopt a clash uniform like just about every other major international team sport has done for decades. Even that religion called the All-Blacks throws a white jersey on once in a blue moon. The cynic in me says that the big three (especially Australia) are more likely to tell tier 2/3 nations to go f**k themselves and the sport will never grow significantly outside of the current countries - I'm not saying its this way because of a uniform but more that the uniform is representative of an attitude to lower tier nations. We still must consider that there is a lot of tradition in the current designs and introducing clash designs will not be easy without some sort of backlash.

I'm reaching TGD's level essays today so I'll give it a rest. Just wanted to properly explain my point.

 

[Saint Doc]

In NRL this would be 100% a clash. We know it isn’t , and thankfully common sense provails.
But, with your formula, and with iPads/mobiles etc do you think this equates as a clash?

This thread feels like it just goes around in circles.

No it’s not a clash.
Yes it is poor contrast.

If I was starting international rugby league today, and there were 3 main countries (NZ, England and Australia) I would put Australia in predominantly gold.

That said, given the history, and the scarcity of the games, I wouldn’t change it.

But, in the NRL, when teams are mandated to have alternate jerseys, if the same two jerseys played each other, yes I would want a gold / white alternate

 

[Saint Doc]

I disagree so you'll have to forgive my lack of common sense.

The two designs contrast poorly for the purposes I've been talking about today, in my opinion (dark jersey with light double V, dark shorts, dark+light hooped socks although NZ had different socks in the Denver test).

But you have to consider context before saying a clash in international football is the same as one in the NRL. One consists of a handful of matches a year and the other has over 200. One has had fairly static designs over decades that are more identifiable to a casual observer and the other chops and changes at will while adding in a number of alternates every year. One usually has minimal sponsors and the other has sponsors to the point that they can overwhelm the base design. I don't think that we should be saying that we can't implement a proper contrast strategy to the NRL just because there isn't one in international footy.

If international rugby league wants to take itself seriously and see extended growth, we will see the need arise for established teams to adopt a clash uniform like just about every other major international team sport has done for decades. Even that religion called the All-Blacks throws a white jersey on once in a blue moon. The cynic in me says that the big three (especially Australia) are more likely to tell tier 2/3 nations to go f**k themselves and the sport will never grow significantly outside of the current countries - I'm not saying its this way because of a uniform but more that the uniform is representative of an attitude to lower tier nations. We still must consider that there is a lot of tradition in the current designs and introducing clash designs will not be easy without some sort of backlash.

I'm reaching TGD's level essays today so I'll give it a rest. Just wanted to properly explain my point.

Dammit I started posting my reply before I read this post, which explains what I was trying to say but much better!

 

[unforgiven]

I disagree so you'll have to forgive my lack of common sense.

The two designs contrast poorly for the purposes I've been talking about today, in my opinion (dark jersey with light double V, dark shorts, dark+light hooped socks although NZ had different socks in the Denver test).

But you have to consider context before saying a clash in international football is the same as one in the NRL. One consists of a handful of matches a year and the other has over 200. One has had fairly static designs over decades that are more identifiable to a casual observer and the other chops and changes at will while adding in a number of alternates every year. One usually has minimal sponsors and the other has sponsors to the point that they can overwhelm the base design. I don't think that we should be saying that we can't implement a proper contrast strategy to the NRL just because there isn't one in international footy.

If international rugby league wants to take itself seriously and see extended growth, we will see the need arise for established teams to adopt a clash uniform like just about every other major international team sport has done for decades. Even that religion called the All-Blacks throws a white jersey on once in a blue moon. The cynic in me says that the big three (especially Australia) are more likely to tell tier 2/3 nations to go f**k themselves and the sport will never grow significantly outside of the current countries - I'm not saying its this way because of a uniform but more that the uniform is representative of an attitude to lower tier nations. We still must consider that there is a lot of tradition in the current designs and introducing clash designs will not be easy without some sort of backlash.

I'm reaching TGD's level essays today so I'll give it a rest. Just wanted to properly explain my point.

Regard the backlash for clash jerseys, alternate jerseys are not a new concept in International Rugby League. The Kangaroos used to use alternate jerseys for matches against the English clubs, so marketing it as a continuation of that may eliminate some of the backlash.