2018 salary cap

[Sea_Eagles_Rock]

"Upto 32 players across all 16 clubs will take part in new marketing/promotional programs"

I think this is the biggest load of bullocks of I've ever read. To the average Joe it looks great and implies that 2 major players from every club will be involved.

In reality we will be lucky to get all clubs involved and probably a couple of fringe first graders who are on the top 30 roster.

Nah, that's the entire broncos line up with JT, Smith, Cronk and Slater thrown in. Thaiday will get a run as well, even if retired.

 

[RL The greatest game]

What is an ex-AFL player doing having a say in anything to do with RL in the first place?

If the rumours are correct that say he will return to a admin job with a aFL club soon its in his interest to try and bankrupt the NRL, think about it

 

[Captain Apollo]

Prendergast is out for himself and isn't ready to lose all the pictures of himself in the paper.

The game has offered what it can afford, that's it.

If he wants to keep dragging out his moment in the limelight the NRL should start pushing for integrity concessions like public salaries, hair follicle testing, enhanced media & promotional commitments. The game needs to move on from these off-field distractions, not let this wanker drag it out just so he can get himself all over the papers with some finals boycott nonsense.

So, the RLPA's job is just to nod through any old thing the NRL throws up does it? No need to analyse anything, just take their word for it eh? Actually doing what his employers, the NRL players want, is just him grandstanding or some AFL plot eh? It sounds to me you have never ever been involved in negotiations for an industrial agreement as saying they want to review it before putting it to his membership is what any average industrial advocate would do.

Also the issues you raised are the very issues that the RLPA have concerns about.

 

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So, the RLPA's job is just to nod through any old thing the NRL throws up does it? No need to analyse anything, just take their word for it eh? Actually doing what his employers, the NRL players want, is just him grandstanding or some AFL plot eh? It sounds to me you have never ever been involved in negotiations for an industrial agreement as saying they want to review it before putting it to his membership is what any average industrial advocate would do.

Also the issues you raised are the very issues that the RLPA have concerns about.

We have already had this fight. The players are naive.

Of course they have concerns about those issues, I meant it as a threat on behalf of the NRL.

 

[Canard]

How big is Melbourne's fan base after nearly 30 years, in a city of 4.5 mill?

Nearly 30 years? Its less then 20

 

[Perth Red]

Nearly 30 years? Its less then 20

Was a strange question given they are by a long way the second best supported club in the NRL this year where it matters, through the turnstiles.

 

[The Beaver]

Nearly 30 years? Its less then 20

I'm pretty good at maths

 

[Canard]

I'm pretty good at maths

Ain't as good as I am at Englich

 

[Saxon]

Was a strange question given they are by a long way the second best supported club in the NRL this year where it matters, through the turnstiles.

And given the only club with less members than Manly are the Titans

http://leagueunlimited.com/news/29340-2017-nrl-club-membership-tracker/

 

[TheDMC]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...boycott-over-cba-impasse-20170820-gy076k.html

I can't believe these muppets think boycotting (aka destroying) the Rugby League World Cup is in any way an appropriate response for a dispute within a domestic rugby-league club competition.

Boycott Origin or boycott the first month of NRL next year, ie something under the remit of the ARL Commission.

The arrogance is astounding.

 

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...boycott-over-cba-impasse-20170820-gy076k.html

I can't believe these muppets think boycotting (aka destroying) the Rugby League World Cup is in any way an appropriate response for a dispute within a domestic rugby-league club competition.

Boycott Origin or boycott the first month of NRL next year, ie something under the remit of the ARL Commission.

The arrogance is astounding.

Just another useless stunt like tonight's meeting of players, lame caps, and green tape. The RLPA have been intent on playing negotiations out in the media from day one, despite their pleas to the contrary. With "genuine partners" like that who needs enemies...

 

[Nice Beaver]

You aren't going to garner the support of the masses with your demands for even more than the fortune you are being offered.

Go and ask 98% of the NRL players after their games this weekend, exactly what it is that the RLPA are demanding, and what their issues are with the NRL's offer.

The answer you will get is a some disjointed garble that is a Chinese whispers answer of what they THINK they should be saying.

Ask them with the camera off and the answer is "we want more money".

All the other hyperbole is just this dill in charge of the RLPA getting his name in the media.

$9.4 million not good enough? Piss off and lay bricks.

 

[Spot On]

One article reported that the RLPA may challenge the salary cap as a restraint of trade.

These blokes for real?

Close to 10 mill a year to share at each club and they play in empty stadiums a lot of the time.

Take the deal and move on fellas.

 

[Pedge1971]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...e/news-story/7e1f23b9958dac096f234a8c136aa1f5

Pay deal: NRL players poised to hit $1 billion jackpot in deal Todd Greenberg says can unite rugby league

DAVID RICCIO, EXCLUSIVE, The Sunday Telegraph
33 minutes ago

NRL players are poised to secure a $1 billion payday chief executive Todd Greenberg believes can unite the code like never before in its 109-year history.

In what would prove a landmark victory for the players, the Rugby League Players’ Association has the power to end months of tense negotiations by accepting a Collective Bargaining Agreement that includes a 50 per cent pay rise for players and the highest minimum wage in Australian sport.

As of Friday, the RLPA was not willing to accept the deal, insisting the NRL’s guaranteed offer to the players that they receive almost 30 per cent of projected revenue fell short of their demands.

The deal will be presented to a mass meeting of players from the nine Sydney clubs and the seven regional and interstate clubs via video link by the RLPA on Monday.

There are several major points within the deal which indicate how the RLPA has maximised the fortunes and working environment for players.

The Sunday Telegraph can reveal they include:

● An unprecedented $3.75 million allocation in funding for women’s rugby league and a contract system which helps take the women’s game into a professional era;

● A new $3 million per year Injury Hardship Fund for players who suffer career-ending injuries and which will be administered by players, not the NRL;

● A “revenue share” model, guaranteeing them almost 30 per cent of earnings from broadcast rights, sponsorship and other revenue streams;

● The minimum salary for NRL players will rise from $80,000 to $120,000 while the average salary will increase from $280,000 to $340,000 at the end of the five-year agreement.

“This deal has the potential to unite the game like never before,’’ Greenberg said.

“I say that because we have made the players genuine partners in the game.

“For the first time they will have a fixed share of income — and they will share in any upside we enjoy in the future. So we will all be on the same page. The more the players do to promote and make the game successful, the more players and grassroots will benefit in the future.’’

Until Friday, the RLPA had continued to haggle with the NRL over “key financial and non-financial aspects of the agreement’’.

However, the likelihood of a deal being struck on Monday — without the players having to deliver on a threat of strike action and before the current agreement expires in October — remains a possibility.

Also included in the CBA is the promise that 81 cents in every dollar in the game goes to funding or supporting the NRL, while the rest goes to grassroots. And in another win for the players, they will have more flexible training and working conditions.

The RLPA is hoping every player from each of the 16 clubs will be available to decide whether to accept or reject the offer at Monday’s meeting.

And there goes rugby league. Greenburg is a turd.

 

[Pedge1971]

"Genuine partners", as long as they gets paid!

Genuine partners sharing i the upside. What happens when there is downside Toddy boy?

 

[Pedge1971]

Nearly 30 years? Its less then 20

Less than 20 years is less than 20 years too long imo. Should be folded and relocated to a nice place lime Sydney.

 

[Life's Good]

A lot of these blokes earn well above the average wage(good luck to them)and they can't even turn up to a high profile gathering neatly dressed or clean shaven. They then want to be taken seriously as representatives of the game.

And what is Aaron Woods doing hanging around real footballers??

 

[Spanner in the works]

I just think the players are greedy. Asking for a 50 per cent payrise? f**k off. The rest of the country isn't getting 50 per cent payrises.

I wish the small, local clubs - the one's run by mums and dads - rose up and told the players to stick it. They are run on the smell of an oily rag and are often barely viable, particularly in regional areas where they don't always have a full 17 players each year to play. They could do a lot more marketing if they had the money to do it.

Give the players a 20 per cent payrise over 5 years, which is way above the national average and CPI, and give grassroots football an extra 20 per cent in funding. With the remaining 10 per cent, start buying assets so we aren't held over a barrel by key stakeholders. Buy shares in News Corp, Channel Nine, Seven etc so that when it comes to negotiating broadcast rights we have a stake in how negotiations proceed. Invest in digital service providers like Telstra and Optus so we have a stake in how the game is delivered to fans. Invest in stadiums to reduce rent, and to take advantage of new opportunities, like the NSW Government's plan to chuck a shitload of money at ANZ and the SFS. Diversifying doesn't just give us a seat at the table, it also gives us a new revenue source.

I just think the whole thing is shortsighted by the NRL and players.

 

[Captain Apollo]

For those criticising the players, tell me, do you have to hand over all your personal bank, telephone and computer records to your employer whenever your employer requests? No? Well this is what the NRL want and is one of the issues that is causing the negotiations to drag on.

The only issue with the financials regards the definitions of revenue, the NRL only want to use "forecast" revenue for what they pay out whereas the RLPA are saying it should be actual revenue - they've apparently agreed to the revenue streams as to what is and isn't included, but that is about the only financial sticking point.

 

[Nice Beaver]

For those criticising the players, tell me, do you have to hand over all your personal bank, telephone and computer records to your employer whenever your employer requests? No? Well this is what the NRL want and is one of the issues that is causing the negotiations to drag on.

The only issue with the financials regards the definitions of revenue, the NRL only want to use "forecast" revenue for what they pay out whereas the RLPA are saying it should be actual revenue - they've apparently agreed to the revenue streams as to what is and isn't included, but that is about the only financial sticking point.

But that whole issue of personal information has been on the table for months.

Why did the RLPA not have that part of the negotiation sorted earlier?

You don't need to have the whole agreement and every clause agreed upon in one sitting.

They could have had that sorted long ago in my opinion.

These negotiations are a staggered process. You meet on some points, reach agreement, then move on to the next points of negotiation.

This RLPA rep is incompetent.