2019 ASHES: 1st Test Australia v England, Edgbaston Aug 1-5

[herbert henry1908]

Hazelwood would play if Siddle doesn’t anyway. If Pattinson needs a break then Starc will unfortunately play. Let’s hope that’s not till after we win the series.

Funnily enough Langer says the first test came down to Starc or Siddle.

 

[wilco44]

Starc's strength is cleaning up the tail, not getting the best batsmen out.

The Stats show it too

Starc

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerWicketAnalysisGraph.asp?PlayerID=3830

Cummins

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerWicketAnalysisGraph.asp?PlayerID=3909

Hazlewood

http://www.howstat.com/cricket/Statistics/Players/PlayerWicketAnalysisGraph.asp?PlayerID=3799

Where he was bowling! Pitches has effect greatly. Also, he's the quickest bowler (even patto and cummins) He had a injury awhile and I think it's good now. Glenn was one of our best bowlers cleaning up the tail - YES - he bowled out 2 of the best batsman ever - Lara and Tendluker. Cleaning the tail up in a tight Test is very beneficial. Siddle got 44 runs..Starc is a better batsman.
Do you understand this?

 

[lockyno1]

Funnily enough Langer says the first test came down to Starc or Siddle.

That to me means that Hazelwood was deemed not match fit- which was what I said before the test. Would be a huge risk (as we saw with Anderson) taking bowlers in off long layoffs

 

[lockyno1]

Starc is one of our best bowlers, Hazelwood he's like Glenn Mcgrath - line and length. Though I prefer Starc as he has the X factor and when he's on..the best batsman are screwed.

Starc is competing with Pattinson. You don’t want Pattinson? He got wickets and he’s the best bat out of all the bowlers we have. We need batting depth. You need a bowler that ties down an end in the middle overs. We’ve tried these burst bowlers before in the last 2 series in england, they don’t work.

 

[lockyno1]

Siddle got 44 runs..Starc is a better batsman.
Do you understand this?

It’s been years since Starc batted well in a test match

 

[herbert henry1908]

Where he was bowling! Pitches has effect greatly. Also, he's the quickest bowler (even patto and cummins) He had a injury awhile and I think it's good now. Glenn was one of our best bowlers cleaning up the tail - YES - he bowled out 2 of the best batsman ever - Lara and Tendluker. Cleaning the tail up in a tight Test is very beneficial. Siddle got 44 runs..Starc is a better batsman.
Do you understand this?

I didn’t say cleaning up the tail isn’t beneficial, but the stats clearly show the other two get more top order wickets. Particularly Cummins.

The Aussie love of pace has hurt us overseas, doesn’t translate into wickets in England. All our fastest bowlers, who also happen to be the least accurate, have done worse in England than their overall record. Lee & Johnson for example.

The best bowlers in England have been the most accurate, none of them were express pace. McGrath, Reiffel, Harris, Alderman et al.

Also Starcs batting has been bad for a couple of years now. Gone downhill a lot.

 

[herbert henry1908]

That to me means that Hazelwood was deemed not match fit- which was what I said before the test. Would be a huge risk (as we saw with Anderson) taking bowlers in off long layoffs

Maybe, but he had a lot of warm up games. I think more likely it was just he hasn’t been bowling well.

 

[wilco44]

It’s been years since Starc batted well in a test match

It helps when Bradman is supporting I have to go to bed..it will be a late start, but f**k it!

 

[lockyno1]

Maybe, but he had a lot of warm up games. I think more likely it was just he hasn’t been bowling well.

Just wonder whether they want him getting another let’s say 40 overs in during this tour game. Last thing we need is a bowler down especially with us gambling on Pattinson already

 

[Twizzle]

The most effective way to stop a batsman from making runs is to get him out.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The most effective way to stop a batsman from making runs is to get him out.

And wickets don’t just come because of good balls. They come through pressure too.

 

[Twizzle]

And wickets don’t just come because of good balls. They come through pressure too.

reaching a bit there JL

they can happen from good bowling, green pitches, bad shots, bad batsmen and a whole lot of other issues

some may come from pressure build up from tight bowling but its not assured as some basemen can ride out pressure situations

it can contribute but its not a given like the unplayable delivery

 

[herbert henry1908]

reaching a bit there JL

they can happen from good bowling, green pitches, bad shots, bad batsmen and a whole lot of other issues

some may come from pressure build up from tight bowling but its not assured as some basemen can ride out pressure situations

it can contribute but its not a given like the unplayable delivery

I didn’t say it was a given, it’s simply a tactic.

On past tours we’ve tried to blast England out and it hasn’t worked. I’m glad we’re trying something different.