2019 ASHES: 4th Test Australia v England, Old Trafford Sept 4-9

[Meth]

To state the obvious, Australia don't win the Ashes without Smith. He is the sort of player that really does make all the difference.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

No love for The Bison in this debate?

Best allrounder has got to be Gary Gilmour closely followed by Hilton Cartwright.

Best pom Chris Lewis

 

[WaznTheGreat]

To state the obvious, Australia don't win the Ashes without Smith. He is the sort of player that really does make all the difference.

It's kinda similar to when Richard Hadlee bent Australia over back in the day all by himself bruh with no help

 

[AlwaysGreen]

It's kinda similar to when Richard Hadlee bent Australia over back in the day all by himself bruh with no help

What about Ewan Chatfield brah? Or Jeremy Coney?

 

[WaznTheGreat]

No love for The Bison in this debate?

Best allrounder has got to be Gary Gilmour closely followed by Hilton Cartwright.

Best pom Chris Lewis

Jack Wighton is the best all-rounder

Fullback,centre,five eighth,winger

 

[WaznTheGreat]

What about Ewan Chatfield brah? Or Jeremy Coney?

Good call bruh,i would take Ewan Chatfield over most of this current Aussie side

 

[Raiders_Premiers]

If Jack Wighton was Ben Stokes last test he would've hit a six from a 145km yorker to win the match, only to swing his bat around onto his stumps in his follow through

 

[WaznTheGreat]

You can tell from my comments that i am still so butthurt that English all-rounders Botham,Flintoff and Stokes ruined my life by ruining Australia's life all these years

LOL

 

[WaznTheGreat]

If Jack Wighton was Ben Stokes last test he would've hit a six from a 145km yorker to win the match, only to swing his bat around onto his stumps in his follow through

Paul Osbourne up there with Jacky boy too bruh in the all-rounder stakes

Osbourne robust forward and Woolies thief a deadly combo for the ages

 

[herbert henry1908]

You'd think though that over the course of the games' history there'd be at least one produced.

Can't agree with Kallis - he was always a batsman whose bowling was secondary to him. Don't think he'd make a Saffa side if he didn't bat.

Never watched him play obviously but I reckon Miller was the closest one. Averaged near 49 in FC cricket in a time when international players played domestically. Shame he couldn't quite transfer that record to Tests.

I edited my post after calling him the Bradman of all rounders, he wasn’t quite that. But he’s the best batting all rounder ever.

 

[VictoryFC]

This actually feels like the only type of situation that Wade thrives in. It's a sticky situation innings wise, but we're so far ahead in the match that all pressure is off. Wade to made a plucky 30 here, just watch

Called it.

 

[Meth]

It's kinda similar to when Richard Hadlee bent Australia over back in the day all by himself bruh with no help

Yes, but every match. At least with the bat. If Smith performs (which he tends to), Australia is a chance...in fact, they are likely to win. If not, there's nothing. It'll all depend on the bowlers.

 

[Bazal]

I just randomly got cranky that Shaun Pollock isn't talked about when discussing all-rounders

32 with the bat and 23 with the ball is vastly superior to the Kapil Devs.Ian Botham's and Andrew Flintoffs of this world

Cricket world should be ashamed and mercilessly mocked for this disgrace lol

I think people often forget about Pollock and how good he was tbh, especially as a bowler.

Having his career spread over the Allan Donald and Dale Steyn eras for SA doesn't help. He kind of gets seen as an honest toiler when compared to those two, which is totally unfair because he was an excellent cricketer. He was also just as good in both red and white ball cricket.

But people remember the guys like White Lightning and old crazy eyes Steyn more readily than a guy like Pollock.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Yes, but every match. At least with the bat. If Smith performs (which he tends to), Australia is a chance...in fact, they are likely to win. If not, there's nothing. It'll all depend on the bowlers.

Culture Club would still have number 1 hits to this day if Boy George didn't get depressed from watching Mark Greatbatch throw away his wicket all the time bruh

 

[VictoryFC]

I think people often forget about Pollock and how good he was tbh, especially as a bowler.

Having his career spread over the Allan Donald and Dale Steyn eras for SA doesn't help. He kind of gets seen as an honest toiler when compared to those two, which is totally unfair because he was an excellent cricketer. He was also just as good in both red and white ball cricket.

But people remember the guys like White Lightning and old crazy eyes Steyn more readily than a guy like Pollock.

All depends on the person in question. If you're in your 20-30s, Pollock is just as memorable as any of the Saffers since. Personally I remember him much more for his bowling than batting, even though he was good at both.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

I think people often forget about Pollock and how good he was tbh, especially as a bowler.

Having his career spread over the Allan Donald and Dale Steyn eras for SA doesn't help. He kind of gets seen as an honest toiler when compared to those two, which is totally unfair because he was an excellent cricketer. He was also just as good in both red and white ball cricket.

But people remember the guys like White Lightning and old crazy eyes Steyn more readily than a guy like Pollock.

Yeah to be honest i only just remembered a few mins ago how good Shaun Pollock was,he is the forgotten man of the all-rounders of this world,he was a brilliant cricketer

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Shaun Pollock is too ugly to be considered.

Keith Miller was at his best with a horse blanket on.

 

[Bazal]

All depends on the person in question. If you're in your 20-30s, Pollock is just as memorable as any of the Saffers since. Personally I remember him much more for his bowling than batting, even though he was good at both.

Point is which is the general cricket fan more likely to reminisce over...a terrifying Allan Donald/Dale Steyn five-for where he shattered stumps and hit blokes in the face at 145kph, or a hard working Pollock five-for where he nipped blokes out with sustained pressure and gentle away swing at 132kph?

 

[VictoryFC]

So what are we all thinking about tonight?

Out for 180 and in bed by midnight. Cummins made the 4am stay worth it, but once is enough

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Shaun Pollock is too ugly to be considered.

Keith Miller was at his best with a horse blanket on.

LOL