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2019 Coach

snout

First Grade
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Dumock is balls. The sooner that bloke leaves the better. He was Ricky’s assistant back in the day and most days it was like he needed a full time carer.
Then he was someone else’s assistant, then he went to the dogs and he was a shoe in for the top role and was overlooked again.
Career assistant. And a non successful one at that.
He had an interview in the paper last week saying how hes always been looked over for the top job.
Thats why he left dogs.

He said he now wants flannos job.
He is ready he reckons.

The guy is amateur hour and now we have this situation - with him having to work under the guy who has been in the coaching gig less and jumped him.

Ideal.
 

fizman

Bench
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This is the correct decision in the current climate. The Club should not pursue a new Coach until the Flanno situation is resolved.

We need a Coach that can be a “Cronulla” Coach - for me, that excludes Toovey, Barrett, Ciraldo and any other Coach that has coached an NRL Team.

The template for success is the Flanno model - hadn’t previously Coached an NRL team, had an excellent lower grade resume.

Here’s the carrot - the next Coach can have a 10 year Head Coach career and be a “Cronulla” Coach.

Flanno’s lower grade resume was brilliant - I don’t think we will get another with that quality.

My preference would also be to have a Coach who is from Sydney so we avoid the Seibold debacle.

While JM is very light on in the resume, he is very well established in the Shire.

If he has success in 2019, there is no reason he can’t be handed the role for the future and I wish him all the very best.
 

lolesi

First Grade
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Wouldn't have a clue , probably S Price ,but it's not an option.
I think JM is a band aid fix. The media will be lapping it up as it does not entirely extinguish the Flanno debacle. And the NRL will continue to have the club under a microscope.

No matter who we got, the media will not leave us alone unfortunately, same goes for the NRL.

Yeah JM is a cheaper option, but considering we have no money I am happy with that.

He knows the systems in place already, won’t destabilise the playing roster any further and won’t really have much pressure holding the title of interim coach.
 

coolumsharkie

Referee
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This is the correct decision in the current climate. The Club should not pursue a new Coach until the Flanno situation is resolved.

We need a Coach that can be a “Cronulla” Coach - for me, that excludes Toovey, Barrett, Ciraldo and any other Coach that has coached an NRL Team.

The template for success is the Flanno model - hadn’t previously Coached an NRL team, had an excellent lower grade resume.

Here’s the carrot - the next Coach can have a 10 year Head Coach career and be a “Cronulla” Coach.

Flanno’s lower grade resume was brilliant - I don’t think we will get another with that quality.

My preference would also be to have a Coach who is from Sydney so we avoid the Seibold debacle.

While JM is very light on in the resume, he is very well established in the Shire.

If he has success in 2019, there is no reason he can’t be handed the role for the future and I wish him all the very best.
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I,m going for the optimistic approach. Just like Flanno was not Ricky , Morris is not Flanno . Has had success in lower grades and knows Players and setup so hopefully will be able to keep together and get good results from what should be a competitive side. (as in competitive for the title)
 

AJB1102

First Grade
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6,339
Pretty silly question really, that era is dead now. Not a good look keeping all his coaching staff on considering the reason he was exiled.
As others have said ,we are at the NRLS mercy so be prepared for mediocrity.

Flanagan is still entitled to appeal so the era isn't quiet dead. Even when he eventually goes it's no reason to tear it all apart and start over.

No idea how John Morris or anyone else employed under Flanagan would be a bad look - do you want to piss off everyone who worked with him?
 

AJB1102

First Grade
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Technically its not. He has a contract for 2019 and until the appeal is either taken and he wins or loses or he accepts it as is we have to be prepared for him to return.

Exactly. If he's contracted for ~$1M as reported this year he's unlikely to cop it on the chin and walk.
 

carcharias

Immortal
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Technically its not. He has a contract for 2019 and until the appeal is either taken and he wins or loses or he accepts it as is we have to be prepared for him to return.

He’ll probably sue the club and win anyway
 
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The more i think of it, we cant employ anyone but JMoz as he is the assistant we then make him the interim coach, till Flanno is finalised with NRL, if for some strange reason he won his appeal, and we hired a new coach we would have to pay out one of them.

Knowing the NRL if we did hire another coach fulltime like O'Brien, Flanno would win his appeal just so the NRL would see us have to pay someone out
 

M2D2

Bench
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Pretty sure he DOESNT get the money if hes deregistered.
All we have to do is follow the process.
Learn from the carney incident.
 
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AJB1102

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Pretty sure he DOESNT get the money if hes deregistered.
All we have to do is follow the process.
Learn from the carney incident.

I wonder if the fact the club held up conversation with him (as per the $800k fine) if that could impact their ability to flatout sack him. It takes 2 to talk.
 

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