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Panfa

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Does anyone know what time the jersey flegg grand final between penrith and cronulla is on sunday arvo at leichardt oval surely we cant lose another game to the sharks
 
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tripster

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You should all watch 100% footy from this week (you can watch it on the Channel 9 app). Lots of discussion about our game against the Sharks and Maloney.
 
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I think we will get minor changes nothing of note so pretty much have what we have now

Using the 3 things Gallen mentioned as a guide because we need to improve to take the next step

The backs advantage- DWZ on the wing instead of Crichton makes us better equiped to defend the high ball.

Kikau/Maloney bad defence. Moving Cleary to the left fixes this. Until Kikau improves anyway.

It is probably the best we can hope for. That and an improved forward pack is probably the best we can hope for
 
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franklin2323 said:
I think we will get minor changes nothing of note so pretty much have what we have now

Using the 3 things Gallen mentioned as a guide because we need to improve to take the next step

The backs advantage- DWZ on the wing instead of Crichton makes us better equiped to defend the high ball.

Kikau/Maloney bad defence. Moving Cleary to the left fixes this. Until Kikau improves anyway.

It is probably the best we can hope for. That and an improved forward pack is probably the best we can hope for
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The difference between good teams and us is their bad defender half gets a bodyguard. Sharks had Wade Graham for Maloney. We don't really have anyone. Maybe Yeo could.
 
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betcats

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OldPanther said:
The difference between good teams and us is their bad defender half gets a bodyguard. Sharks had Wade Graham for Maloney. We don't really have anyone. Maybe Yeo could.
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Yeo isn't going to stop Jimmy rushing out of the line and tackling nobody leaving a huge hole for teams to stroll through. It also wont stop him being the most ill discliplined captain ever constantly putting his side under pressure with selfish penalties.

Jimmys defence is so bad, its not just his tackling. His decision making is shit.

Let Jimmy go to qld or England. We have a young half with better vision, running, ball playing, short kicking and creativity than Cleary yet he wont be in the side.

32/33 year old Jimmy Maloney is leading us to a premiership.
 
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OldPanther

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betcats said:
Yeo isn't going to stop Jimmy rushing out of the line and tackling nobody leaving a huge hole for teams to stroll through. It also wont stop him being the most ill discliplined captain ever constantly putting his side under pressure with selfish penalties.

Jimmys defence is so bad, its not just his tackling. His decision making is shit.

Let Jimmy go to qld or England. We have a young half with better vision, running, ball playing, short kicking and creativity than Cleary yet he wont be in the side.

32/33 year old Jimmy Maloney is leading us to a premiership.
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I kind of regretted the comment almost immediately.
 
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forby

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For anybody who wants Luke here, watch the final against the Warriors and see how many times Luke doesn’t get to dummy half for a full set after a kick. He is very lazy these days!
 
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Fangs said:
It does. A lot of it comes back to Cleary I think. Whare had been steadily improving and Mansour is our best finisher. Nathan needs to take advantage of them and improve his passing game inside the 20.

If Yeo and Cleary communicate well then our right side will be fine.
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Remembering Cleary had less games here is a few stats to compare Maloney and Cleary

Try involvements

Maloney 31
Cleary 24
Peachey is inbetween the 2 so can't even say him being 5/8th was part of it

Line break assists
Maloney 15
Cleary 13

Leaving the wingers out as they finish off plays not create. Compare the left to the right

Tries
Blake 13
Kikau 5
Whare 4
Yeo 4

Try assists
Blake 5
Kikau 3
Yeo 3
Whare 1

Linebreaks
Blake 18
Kikau 14
Yeo 9
Whare 8

Tackle breaks
Kikau 78
Blake 61
Whare 47
Yeo 45

Offloads
Kikau 43
Whare 15
Blake 13
Yeo 7

These are from Fox Sports. While the stats the club keeps no doubt will be different. This is guide.

Despite showing how much of a weapon Blake is. I can't see how Yeo and Whare can stay together. Maybe Yeo to lock or DWZ at centre over Blake if we find a winger
 
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tripster said:
You should all watch 100% footy from this week (you can watch it on the Channel 9 app). Lots of discussion about our game against the Sharks and Maloney.
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Gus made good points about not making the 8 without Maloney. Gallen's insight into tactics against us was pretty good too. Gus was there so can note
 
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OldPanther said:
The difference between good teams and us is their bad defender half gets a bodyguard. Sharks had Wade Graham for Maloney. We don't really have anyone. Maybe Yeo could.
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That is my thinking. Roosters, Warriors had him covered too. We need him for Atleast one more season. Kikau will come good but not sure it will be over an off season
 
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