2019 Discussion

[franklin2323]

Yeah I think he just likes hardworking and mobile forwards, especially defensively.

RCG, JFH and Kikau are ordinary in defence. Kikau is technique. The other 2 hit hard but bounce off... I hope we don't change them just re-organise so it doesn't hurt so much

 

[Kilkenny]

In an ideal world either of Katoa or Egan play the full 80 and have four forwards off the bench one of whom is a utility who can play either in the halves or outside backs.

 

[franklin2323]

I think if our starting pack is RCG, Tamou, Kikau, Yeo & JFH, then its a big starting pack. The smallest player would be JFH at 187 cm and 103 kg. The rest are 193 cm, 195, 195 and 195.

Then if we can rotate them with 2 or 3 on the bench from either Hetherington, Leota, Ellis, Lui-Toso, and Grant, we can keep a large pack on the field. Or even 2 of them, and either Fuimaono, Martin & Sele to round out the bench, it is still a decent size bench. That's why i hope we have three genuine forwards on the bench and only one spot for a utility/hooker/half.

We seem to have heaps of middle guys and not too many edge. So I think that alone means there will be shuffle

 

[umina panther]

I think we need to have a specialist hooker on the bench regardless of our starting hooker. I think we got found out last year when Katoa was having an off game & we replaced him with May, who is a decent footballer but a poor hooker, who while trying hard was just as poor in decision making but with slower service.

I think i'd go;

8. Tamou 9. Katoa 10. JFH 11. Yeo 12. Kikau 13. Sele

14. Egan 15. RCG 16. Leota 17. Hetherington

But i'll probably change my opinon tomorrow.

Agree but if we can get one of them playing 80 we can have Luai on the bench. He really needs some more first grade experience

 

[martielang]

Agree but not sure either would be ready for 80mins at the moment. I could be wrong.

 

[OldPanther]

Agree but not sure either would be ready for 80mins at the moment. I could be wrong.

I guess that depends on how much 1 pre-season can prepare them. Now that they are going for the full time position since Wallace is retired.

 

[Matthew Ellis]

In an ideal world either of Katoa or Egan play the full 80 and have four forwards off the bench one of whom is a utility who can play either in the halves or outside backs.

I believe Tyrell Fuimaono has played both centre and backrow at a first grade level.

 

[Kilkenny]

I believe Tyrell Fuimaono has played both centre and backrow at a first grade level.

Could be the ideal utility bench option for us. If fully fit and injury free I expect him to play a fair bit of first grade this season. Interesting reading an article about his selection in the 2016 Holden Cup Team of the Year the only player in the 17 players named not to play NRL as yet is our own Oliver Clark now with the West Tigers.

 

[mxlegend99]

I guess that depends on how much 1 pre-season can prepare them. Now that they are going for the full time position since Wallace is retired.

We should have been preparing for that 12 months ago. We (the fans) knew Wallace was getting pretty busted and the club somehow hid just how truly busted he was. It seemed inevitable he would not last the season.

He's probably the reason Jimmy was trying to play while busted. Wallace must be inspiring for the guys even while not playing.

 

[franklin2323]

We should have been preparing for that 12 months ago. We (the fans) knew Wallace was getting pretty busted and the club somehow hid just how truly busted he was. It seemed inevitable he would not last the season.

He's probably the reason Jimmy was trying to play while busted. Wallace must be inspiring for the guys even while not playing.

Apparently Gus has worked out all our grades for the next 5 years. So I am sure there is a hooker plan whether it is good or not is the question

 

[Crashtest]

Interesting reading an article about his selection in the 2016 Holden Cup Team of the Year the only player in the 17 players named not to play NRL as yet is our own Oliver Clark now with the West Tigers.

He always looked such a promising prospect in the U/20s, but just hasn’t been able to make the step up in NSW cup. Was surprised when the Tigers pinched one of our nsw cup forwards this year, the picked him.

 

[OldPanther]

We should have been preparing for that 12 months ago. We (the fans) knew Wallace was getting pretty busted and the club somehow hid just how truly busted he was. It seemed inevitable he would not last the season.

He's probably the reason Jimmy was trying to play while busted. Wallace must be inspiring for the guys even while not playing.

Should have but they risked it instead leaving us with fill ins for half a season.

 

[Crashtest]

Apparently Gus has worked out all our grades for the next 5 years. So I am sure there is a hooker plan whether it is good or not is the question

The long term plan was Egan. And when he was named the 2017 NYC Hooker of the Year, and Panthers NYC Player of the Year, it seemed a solid plan.

But as he has only played 11 nrl games to date, there is still time for him to fulfill the plan and start showing his skills in first grade.

 

[Wookies&Cream]

The long term plan was Egan. And when he was named the 2017 NYC Hooker of the Year, and Panthers NYC Player of the Year, it seemed a solid plan.

But as he has only played 11 nrl games to date, there is still time for him to fulfill the plan and start showing his skills in first grade.

A pre season with the top grade and a decent coach might allow him to take the next step. He hasn't had a pre season with FG yet, just thrown in the deep end and expected to fit in last year.. not that we had any plan anyway..

PUNCH THROUGH ZERO

BUILD PRESSURE C.O.T.

RUTHLESS DEFENSE

PREPARATION

DISCIPLINE

How does that benefit a young hooker thrown into a new team

 

[franklin2323]

The long term plan was Egan. And when he was named the 2017 NYC Hooker of the Year, and Panthers NYC Player of the Year, it seemed a solid plan.

But as he has only played 11 nrl games to date, there is still time for him to fulfill the plan and start showing his skills in first grade.

Personally I'd keep this whole 30 for Atleast 2 years. Realistically I don't see it happening.

 

[franklin2323]

A pre season with the top grade and a decent coach might allow him to take the next step. He hasn't had a pre season with FG yet, just thrown in the deep end and expected to fit in last year.. not that we had any plan anyway..

PUNCH THROUGH ZERO

BUILD PRESSURE C.O.T.

RUTHLESS DEFENSE

PREPARATION

DISCIPLINE

How does that benefit a young hooker thrown into a new team

Yet we produced an Origin half

 

[OldPanther]

Yet we produced an Origin half

Who by all accounts, including Fittler, his game hasn't changed since flegg or whatever.

 

[franklin2323]

Who by all accounts, including Fittler, his game hasn't changed since flegg or whatever.

RCG only played under one coach..Test player. Coaching wasn't nessarily the issue for guys

 

[umina panther]

RCG only played under one coach..Test player. Coaching wasn't nessarily the issue for guys

Can't compare a prop and the halfback though. Nathan improve noticeably the moment Hook was punted

 

[franklin2323]

Can't compare a prop and the halfback though. Nathan improve noticeably the moment Hook was punted

Yet Maloney went to opposite way. A coach has a very small say in what the players do once they hit the field.