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2019 Federal Election

Gary Gutful

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It's not my job to create policy mate, I just comment on it.

Actually I could barely tell you one of these idiots policies, because all they do is shout about each other.
How can you say that good policy will prevail if you don't even know whether good policy exists?
 

Bazal

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Because that's what gets votes (which was my point).

And mine was that I'm certain they would sway more votes (or at least more votes from the average person) with proper policy and proper policy promotion rather than just making us all sick to death of their squabbling.

I'm glad we could come full circle on this, it's been most illuminating.
 

Gary Gutful

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And mine was that I'm certain they would sway more votes (or at least more votes from the average person) with proper policy and proper policy promotion rather than just making us all sick to death of their squabbling.

I'm glad we could come full circle on this, it's been most illuminating.
What are you basing that assertion on, smuggy?
 

Bazal

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What are you basing that assertion on, smuggy?

Facetious was the intent tbh

I'm basing it my experience. Being a relatively normal person...ok that's a lie, but a person who has zero voting affiliation, and on the fact that essentially every merkin I know bar a small handful who are just poiltical stooges are saying exactly the same thing.

Confirmation bias? Maybe. Different age groups? Probably. Who knows. But how often do you hear someone say they wish the merkins would just stop carrying on like children?
 

Gary Gutful

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Facetious was the intent tbh

I'm basing it my experience. Being a relatively normal person...ok that's a lie, but a person who has zero voting affiliation, and on the fact that essentially every merkin I know bar a small handful who are just poiltical stooges are saying exactly the same thing.

Confirmation bias? Maybe. Different age groups? Probably. Who knows. But how often do you hear someone say they wish the merkins would just stop carrying on like children?
I think it is really easy to say things like.
proper policy and proper policy promotion
Much harder though to actually define it (as you have demonstrated).

If it was that easy and that universal, someone would have already done it.
 

Gronk

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After the latest NewsPoll and Ipsos polls, Sportsbet has Labor’s odds “shortened” to $1.22 and Libs extended to $4.25.
 

gaffer

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the senate is where you make your vote count that is where the power is Before you vote ask mum and dad what it was like to pay 17% interest rates on a house mortgage
 

Gronk

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the senate is where you make your vote count that is where the power is Before you vote ask mum and dad what it was like to pay 17% interest rates on a house mortgage

You do know that the high interest rates of the 80's were a result of the Reserve Bank trying to put the breaks on a booming economy. We had double digit inflation and the only way to claw it back was to place artificial restraints on the economy. I personally watched interest rates go from 13% to 18% after I bought my first place.

The world economies around us didn't help. There was high demand for our resources and wage growth was spiralling.

So yes, high interest rates are bad if you have a mortgage/ awesome if you have your money in cash or are a self funded retiree.

I think the angle of your post was to imply that Labor was in charge back then and a vote for Labor would result in interest rates going crazy ? Yeah that's just a irresponsible scare tactic. Interest rates have spiked historically under both parties (see below). It's far more about the world economy than it is about a political party's economic prowess.

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The LNP label themselves as the best economic managers. Remember the rhetoric when they were trying to oust the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd governments ? They were saying that Labor were creating so much debt that our grandchildren will be stuck with it for generations. Nek minute this current Government have doubled the debt since Abbott was elected in 2013. Again this is more about the world economy than one party being more fiscally responsible than the other. Even with the current Government trying to sell their last budget being a "surplus" budget, it's a projection into future years and all it will do is maintain the debt, rather than pay it off.

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IMHO merkins are way too obsessed with debt. Whilst interest rates are historically low, we should be taking advantage of this and securing infrastructructure for the future (alternative power generation, high speed rail to regional Sydney & Melbourne etc and do something smart about the water crisis in the inland areas).


/rant
 

Gronk

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At one point you could've got $4.75 for Coalition.

Do you know what these odds mean in a two horse race ? My guess is that the LNP party have a 95% chance of coming second in a two horse race.

Seeking better mathematicians input on this.
 

SDM

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Scomo said this morning, that if he wins, he will make Andrew Fafita service Winx, not sure if the progeny will be a racehorse or a footballer.
 

Chipmunk

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Do you know what these odds mean in a two horse race ? My guess is that the LNP party have a 95% chance of coming second in a two horse race.

Seeking better mathematicians input on this.

Odds are based on probability...$1.20 is about 80% likely to occur.
 

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