2019 Jerseys/Logos/Sponsorships

[unforgiven]

Umm.... no.

I never said anything remotely like that.

St George Illawarra Dragons were established in 1999

 

[Prometheus]

Yes, and it was established as a continuation of St George and Illawarra. The oldest of which was established in 1921.

 

[unforgiven]

Yes, and it was established as a continuation of St George and Illawarra. The oldest of which was established in 1921.

So St George Illawarra have the same Number of Premierships as Wests Tigers?

 

[Foreign Legion]

So St George Illawarra have the same Number of Premierships as Wests Tigers?

They sure do, and North Sydney Bears have won more premiership then the Dragons

 

[Prometheus]

So St George Illawarra have the same Number of Premierships as Wests Tigers?

All together they do, yes.

Though the situations are different. Balmain and Western Suburbs were always separate districts. St George and the Illawarra were all the same district until the Steelers entered the competition.

 

[unforgiven]

All together they do, yes.

So 1 a piece?

 

[Prometheus]

LOL

You're hilarious.

 

[unforgiven]

LOL

You're hilarious.

Well how many?

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

So St George Illawarra have the same Number of Premierships as Wests Tigers?

WTs have every right to claim that they were founded in 1908 and i think they lose something by ignoring that part of their history...

The "narative" of StG-Illawarra is pretty easy: "The Illawarra branch of the Dragons broke away to form their own identity before rejoining the Dragons". It doesnt need to be true, just believable enough.

WTs should be looking to craft a narative similar to this...

 

[kdalymc]

“The Illawarra branch of the dragons” hahha you merkins are cooked.
St George Illawarra have one trophy and the merch should say 1999 f**ken idiots

 

[Foreign Legion]

“The Illawarra branch of the dragons” hahha you merkins are cooked.
St George Illawarra have one trophy and the merch should say 1999 f**ken idiots

Branch, sounds like a motor cycle chapter...lol

 

[unforgiven]

WTs have every right to claim that they were founded in 1908 and i think they lose something by ignoring that part of their history...

The "narative" of StG-Illawarra is pretty easy: "The Illawarra branch of the Dragons broke away to form their own identity before rejoining the Dragons". It doesnt need to be true, just believable enough.

WTs should be looking to craft a narative similar to this...

So what you are saying is the Wests Tigers should claim 16 premierships? 11 by Balmain, 4 by Wests and 1 from the Wests Tigers? I'm a Wests Tigers supporter and even I think that isn't what we should be doing. I have no problem with the Wests Tigers celebrating their entire history including that of Wests and Balmain, celebrating past players, victories and premierships from all members of the joint venture, but the official record should say the club was formed in 2000 from the merger of the Balmain Tigers and Wests Magpies and has 1 premiership.

 

[jim_57]

From an outsider's point of view (Cowboys fan) I really don't see why people are so obsessed with trying to deny history of merged clubs. St George Illawarra are a continuation of both clubs so I have no issue with them embracing the history of both and claiming the 1921 and all premierships prior to the merge.

Likewise I wouldn't have an issue with Wests Tigers claiming the history of both clubs as well as their premiership as a joint venture.

My way of looking at it is that a merger is continuation of both clubs as a combined entity, as opposed to the end of both clubs and the start of a new one. All a matter of perception I guess but from the outside it appears most of the people upset about it are fans of less successful clubs trying to score some kind of victory by bringing these clubs down to their level.

 

[gzerounian]

Only one way to settle this...ask Brad Mackay how many games he played for Illawarra

 

[roofromoz]

How about this?

From an era when men were men, liked their beer cold and their women hot

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I know we will never go back to brown and white... but could we at the very least have an away strip modelled on that design?

 

[Zerô]

Can't wait till we get to the South Sydney est 2002 argument

 

[Saint Doc]

The Illawarra Steelers no longer have any ownership of the St George Illawarra Dragons.

 

[M2D2]

St George is dead
St George illawarra only have 1 premiership.
Their denial however will live forever.

 

[Foreign Legion]

Umm.... no.

I never said anything remotely like that.

aarhhh yes.

 

[Timmah]

Take the Dragons establishment debate elsewhere folks.