2020 team

[aqua_duck]

We have always lived and died on the quality of our junior development.

Which has faltered massively over the past decade

 

[slotmachine]

Kidley debuted in 2001 so almost 20 years.

 

[Yosh]

Levi just piss off mate... Last straw for me.

Also we aren't rushing off the line... Gonna lose this big if we keep this up... Need to rush out and out pressure on their play makers... No late hit them high on the last...

Edit: Ah wrong thread but I'll keep it here for reference...

 

[Yosh]

Who feels like Parra has the better Nathan Brown of the two teams?

They target Mann who isn't a winger and they score... Damn...

 

[macavity]

Rest Ponga the rest of the year. Obviously injured.

I would play him at 6 next year with Watson at 1. And stick with it.

We need two starting back rowers and two starting outside backs.

 

[aqua_duck]

Rest Ponga the rest of the year. Obviously injured.

I would play him at 6 next year with Watson at 1. And stick with it.

We need two starting back rowers and two starting outside backs.

Yep, we need some speed in the backs and some forwards with footwork and an offload.

 

[Old dog]

Our best forward for footwork, Ese’ese we are letting go.

 

[aqua_duck]

Our best forward for footwork, Ese’ese we are letting go.

Yep apparently because he can't defend yet we've got plenty of others who can't defend either and offer nothing in attack

 

[Spot On]

There's challenging a player to address his faults and giving him some time in reserves ie Herman fixing his defence.

Then there's rewarding players with selection every week for the same faults Herman is not being selected for.

Hmmm.

 

[Spot On]

Rest Ponga the rest of the year. Obviously injured.

That's what it looked like at times but then running into Gutho as hard as he did to deny him that try and chasing him down again in the second half suggests it is not that bad????

 

[Knight Vision]

Can anyone give me the low down on other guys in the squad ?

• Braydon Musgrove - any good ? why do you think Mann was selected on the wing instead.of this 190cm 102 kilo guy ? Why wasnt this kid given a go with the loss of Lee and Ramien ?
• Tex Hoy- why wasnt he selected as FB when Ponga was out ? instead of shifting the whole spine around?
• Crossland - To young? Why wasnt he given a go at 5/8 instead of alternating between Lino, Watson and Mann all season ? An obvious sign none were any good.
• Chris Randell ? not good enough ? 23 yrs old and a specialist hooker who wasnt selected to replace Levi instead we shifted Watson (again )from the bench.

Why was the spine ( the whole team for that matter ) constantly shifted from position to position instead of simply replacing the missing piece with one of the above players. If they are in the squad I assume they are good enough ? or am I missing something about these players?

 

[aqua_duck]

Can anyone give me the low down on other guys in the squad ?

• Braydon Musgrove - any good ? why do you think Mann was selected on the wing instead.of this 190cm 102 kilo guy ? Why wasnt this kid given a go with the loss of Lee and Ramien ?
• Tex Hoy- why wasnt he selected as FB when Ponga was out ? instead of shifting the whole spine around?
• Crossland - To young? Why wasnt he given a go at 5/8 instead of alternating between Lino, Watson and Mann all season ? An obvious sign none were any good.
• Chris Randell ? not good enough ? 23 yrs old and a specialist hooker who wasnt selected to replace Levi instead we shifted Watson (again )from the bench.

Why was the spine ( the whole team for that matter ) constantly shifted from position to position instead of simply replacing the missing piece with one of the above players. If they are in the squad I assume they are good enough ? or am I missing something about these players?

Musgrove has been injured most of the year, he's been around for a while in the juniors but always seems to be injured (from my perspective anyway). Hoy and Crossland are both very young and realistically only in their first year of Flegg eligibility, they've got potential but haven't really been banging the door down. Randell start the year off as a part timer from park footy, he's made leaps and bounds to overtake Woolford but whilst he's done well to make the most of his opportunities at CC level first grade is a different story.

 

[Knight Vision]

Musgrove has been injured most of the year, he's been around for a while in the juniors but always seems to be injured (from my perspective anyway). Hoy and Crossland are both very young and realistically only in their first year of Flegg eligibility, they've got potential but haven't really been banging the door down. Randell start the year off as a part timer from park footy, he's made leaps and bounds to overtake Woolford but whilst he's done well to make the most of his opportunities at CC level first grade is a different story.

Ok thanks, so we are lacking depth then ? Wouldnt a good squad have players in the top 30 that can play first grade? Its been frustrating to watch the players being constantly swapped positions every week...I can only image how they feel. I really think it has gone some way to us having the poor season we have had.

 

[aqua_duck]

Ok thanks, so we are lacking depth then ? Wouldnt a good squad have players in the top 30 that can play first grade? Its been frustrating to watch the players being constantly swapped positions every week...I can only image how they feel. I really think it has gone some way to us having the poor season we have had.

I said that it was ridiculous we didn't try to sign another winger after Lee got hurt the first time round. At the start of the year the plan was Lee and SKD as the starters with Ross as cover and Musgrove and Toa being eligible later in the season, Ross retired and Toa and Musgrove have been injured most of the season so we were essentially down 3 wingers in our squad yet never signed another back up, that's just poor planning.

 

[Spot On]

We are fairdinkum useless if we don't have another bloke at the club that can play on the wing.

 

[Mr_Knightside]

Here’s the 2020 side that I would pick with ??? in positions that I think we need to recruit for.

1. Ponga
2. Lee
3. Hunt
4. ???
5. SKD
6. ???
7. Pearce
8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. D. Saifiti
11. Fitzgibbon
12. ???
13. Glasby

14. Watson
15. J. Saifiti
16. Barnett/Sione
17. ???

This means Gavet, Mann, Moga, Lino and either Barnett or Sione to reserve grade and we look for a decent second rower, a consistent 5/8, another couple of bench forwards and some cheap outside backs.

Given we’re unlikely to sign all of those players I would be ok with Lino staying at 5/8 but he needs to be given a decent crack at it rather than a couple of games here and there. Pretty hard to gain consistency when you’re constantly in and out of the side. If by mid year he hasn’t cemented his spot then we bring Crossland in.

We really do need to pick up some depth in the outside backs though. We can use Ramien’s money to get someone and we need to replace Ross as well. Ideally we move Moga on somehow and use his money to pick up a couple of cheap outside backs but given that’s unlikely to happen then maybe Moga keeps his spot at left centre. Either way though Mann simply cannot be our plan B on the wing next year.

Other than that getting a dynamic second rower with some ball skills is a must for next year. I’m so sick of seeing Barnett run away from the gap in the line and get cut down by a smaller defender. Happens over and over every game.

I can also accept that unless we come up with some fluke signings either Barnett or Sione will be in the 17 each week. Hopefully not both though.

 

[slotmachine]

If sione is getting games next year as a bench middle forward we're in trouble.

Barnett is much better.

 

[Yosh]

1. Ponga
2. Lee
3. Hunt
4. Moga
5. Star To'a

6. Crossland
7. Pearce

8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. DSaifiti
11. Fitzy
12.????
13. Glasby

14. Watson
15. JSaifiti
16. Barnett
17. Mata'utai

I think Barnett would go better in the middle than on the edge. I like Mata'utai and I think he has a lot to offer. But I seem like the only one here haha..

 

[Silent Knight]

1. Ponga
2. Lee
3. Hunt
4. Moga
5. Star To'a

6. Crossland
7. Pearce

8. Klemmer
9. Brailey
10. DSaifiti
11. Fitzy
12.????
13. Glasby

14. Watson
15. JSaifiti
16. Barnett
17. Mata'utai

I think Barnett would go better in the middle than on the edge. I like Mata'utai and I think he has a lot to offer. But I seem like the only one here haha..

12 can be SBW Yosh.

 

[mozza91]

How is Fitzy an automatic starter and Barnett isn’t?