2021 Host cities and venues

[roughyedspud]

Can't be disappointing and ambitious at the same time mate lol

 

[adamkungl]

To expand on Springs' post slightly

Final - Manchester, Old Trafford (75,000)

Semi-Finals -
Leeds, Elland Road (38,000),
London, Emirates (60,000)

Quarter-Finals -
Liverpool, Anfield (54,000) (England) ,
Huddersfield, John Smith's (24,500),
Hull, KCOM (24,500),
Bolton, University of Bolton (29,000)

Pools -
Newcastle, St James (54,000) x1 (Opening Ceremony/England)
St Helens, Totally Wicked (18,000) x3
Bolton, University of Bolton (29,000) x1 (England)
Warrington, Haliwell Jones (15,000) x3
Leigh Sports Village (12,000) x3
Doncaster, Keepmoat (15,000) x3
Coventry (32,600) x1
Leeds Headingley (21,000) x3
Sheffield, Bramall Lane (32,700) x1 (England)
Hull KCOM (24,500) x1
Middlesbrough, Riverside (34,000) x1
Workington new stadium (8000) x3

 

[adamkungl]

Can't be disappointing and ambitious at the same time mate lol

Overall ambitious, the number of large stadiums and reach compared to the dismal 2017 venues.

Specifically disappointing that there's so little in London.

 

[roughyedspud]

Just to add too...

Our government has given us a £10m/$18m grant for the comp....that in its self won't be far away from paying for the comp...so all ticket sales,merch revenue and media rights is pure profit

 

[adamkungl]

Paying closer attention, there's a clear pattern to the stadium choices.
There are 8 games a round. 6 lower capacity stadiums are used 3x in the pools, and 6 high capacity stadiums used once.
So each round will have 2 marquee games at 30k stadiums. While the most minnowy games will likely go to Workington and Leigh Sports.

Mock-up pools and draw

Pool A
England PNG France Greece*
Pool B
Australia Fiji Wales USA*
Pool C
NZ Samoa Scotland* Ireland*
Pool D
Tonga Lebanon Jamaica Italy*

W1
England V France @ Newcastle
Australia V Wales @ Coventry
NZ V Samoa @ Leeds
Scotland V Ireland @ St Helens
Tonga V Lebanon @ Warrington
PNG V Greece @ Doncaster
Fiji V USA @ Leigh
Jamaica V Italy @ Workington

W2
England V Greece @ Bolton
Australia V Fiji @ Hull
NZ V Scotland @ Leeds
Tonga V Jamaica @ St Helens
Ireland V Samoa @ Warrington
PNG V France @ Doncaster
Wales v USA @ Leigh
Lebanon V Italy @ Workington

W3
England V PNG @ Sheffield
NZ V Ireland @ Middlesbrough
Australia V USA @ Leeds
Tonga V Italy @ St Helens
France V Greece @ Warrington
Scotland V Samoa @ Doncaster
Jamaica V Lebanon @ Leigh
Fiji V USA @ Workington

QF
England v Samoa @ Anfield
Australia v Italy @ Bolton
Tonga v Fiji @ Huddersfield
NZ v PNG @ Hull

SF
England v Tonga @ London Emirates
Australia v NZ @ Leeds Elland Rd

WCF
Tonga v NZ @ Old Trafford

 

[Burns]

I think they are on the average, great venues. This World Cup will make money which is really the most important thing. The caliabre of venues is excellent.

Selling the tickets will be a daunting task. After how slick the presentation was yesterday, I’m confident it is in good hands.

 

[adamkungl]

So who's flying over from Aus?

 

[miguel de cervantes]

no games for Millom?

 

[Pommy]

no games for Millom?

If Millom was in Queensland it would have had a quarter final at the last World Cup.

So who's flying over from Aus?

Potentially, I have a lot of family in the Newcastle area and as a Newcastle fan I would love to go watch the opening ceremony in the cathedral that is SJP.

 

[adamkungl]

If Millom was in Queensland it would have had a quarter final at the last World Cup.
.

And 6 group games

 

[Jim from Oz]

So who's flying over from Aus?

I'm still hoping to … but who knows where my life will be by the end of 2021 … !

 

[Springs09]

Paying closer attention, there's a clear pattern to the stadium choices.
There are 8 games a round. 6 lower capacity stadiums are used 3x in the pools, and 6 high capacity stadiums used once.
So each round will have 2 marquee games at 30k stadiums. While the most minnowy games will likely go to Workington and Leigh Sports.

Mock-up pools and draw

Pool A
England PNG France Greece*
Pool B
Australia Fiji Wales USA*
Pool C
NZ Samoa Scotland* Ireland*
Pool D
Tonga Lebanon Jamaica Italy*

W1
England V France @ Newcastle
Australia V Wales @ Coventry
NZ V Samoa @ Leeds
Scotland V Ireland @ St Helens
Tonga V Lebanon @ Warrington
PNG V Greece @ Doncaster
Fiji V USA @ Leigh
Jamaica V Italy @ Workington

W2
England V Greece @ Bolton
Australia V Fiji @ Hull
NZ V Scotland @ Leeds
Tonga V Jamaica @ St Helens
Ireland V Samoa @ Warrington
PNG V France @ Doncaster
Wales v USA @ Leigh
Lebanon V Italy @ Workington

W3
England V PNG @ Sheffield
NZ V Ireland @ Middlesbrough
Australia V USA @ Leeds
Tonga V Italy @ St Helens
France V Greece @ Warrington
Scotland V Samoa @ Doncaster
Jamaica V Lebanon @ Leigh
Fiji V USA @ Workington

QF
England v Samoa @ Anfield
Australia v Italy @ Bolton
Tonga v Fiji @ Huddersfield
NZ v PNG @ Hull

SF
England v Tonga @ London Emirates
Australia v NZ @ Leeds Elland Rd

WCF
Tonga v NZ @ Old Trafford

I agree more or less. Australia and NZ will be at the bigger venues.

I'll bet England get Samoa or Fiji for the opener. I'd say they'll try and create a bit of a 'home' side for locals to get behind and have at least 2 of their games at a particular stadium - Scotland will have 2 games at Workington for example. They did this with Fiji at Rochdale and PNG at Hull last time.

Have they said if the draw will be fully random or not? Wonder if they'll risk that or try and get the best match-ups to maximise crowds.

 

[Hello, I'm The Doctor]

I dont mind if this isn’t ambitious with new locations. If we can just get a WC with good crowds, it will be great...

We can be ambitious with other comps (9s for example), i dont mind going for the “fish in a barrel” approach for the WC.

 

[Springs09]

So who's flying over from Aus?

I'm flying over in a month's time. I went to 2013 and it was great.

If they had the Confederations Cup thing they talked about you could see new places while not missing out on the only major RL tournament in the world. Here's hoping 2025 is not in Australia.

 

[milton]

Based off the stadium capacity and number of games I have seen on here, if every game sells out
778,800 will attend the world cup. That's an average of 25,123 per game.

I believe the organisers are aiming for 750,000 attendance

 

[adamkungl]

I agree more or less. Australia and NZ will be at the bigger venues.

I'll bet England get Samoa or Fiji for the opener. I'd say they'll try and create a bit of a 'home' side for locals to get behind and have at least 2 of their games at a particular stadium - Scotland will have 2 games at Workington for example. They did this with Fiji at Rochdale and PNG at Hull last time.

Have they said if the draw will be fully random or not? Wonder if they'll risk that or try and get the best match-ups to maximise crowds.

The 'pots' system indicates that it will be either totally or at least semi-random. It would be pointless to even have pots/seedings if you were just gonna pick every game manually anyway.

I say semi-random because I think you can select a *limited* number of marquee games from each pot and pool without sacrificing any legitimacy (since it's entirely possible for the same draw to come out randomly).

 

[adamkungl]

I'm flying over in a month's time.

You're about 30 months early there mate..

 

[Perth Red]

Interesting mix of venues. Surprised South Yorkshire got featured so much and that Bolton got in over Wigan.
Also that Doncaster,Leigh and Workington got three games each. i would have thought those small games are the low risk ones you could spread around the place a bit more in places like York, Keighley, Hull KR etc. All in all a good line up though with plenty of potential for innovative ticket packages to boost crowds and ensure we fill both big and small venues.

Time to get started on talking the wife into a trip back to see her parents in two years!

 

[Perth Red]

I'm flying over in a month's time. I went to 2013 and it was great.

If they had the Confederations Cup thing they talked about you could see new places while not missing out on the only major RL tournament in the world. Here's hoping 2025 is not in Australia.

Hopefully NZ, PNG and Fiji!

 

[adamkungl]

Re: 3 games in Workington, etc. Guessing for the investment being asked for by RLWC, councils wanted more than 1 low draw game for their trouble. Bit of give and take.