2021 Rd1: Eels v Broncos GAME DAY thread at Suncorp 12/3

[strider]

I really like what I've seen of Herbie Farnworth so far in his young NRL career. Was probably their most consistent outside back aside from Staggs in 2020 and was good last night.

People blow their load over staggs and want to sign him (for a million $s) .... but i would honestly prefer herbie. He is a solid player and would be a far more reasonable price. You could sign herbie, then go bananas elsewhere with the left over cash.

 

[hindy111]

He’s filled out too. He’s lost his man child body looks quite the chiseled specimen.

LOL

 

[hindy111]

People blow their load over staggs and want to sign him (for a million $s) .... but i would honestly prefer herbie. He is a solid player and would be a far more reasonable price. You could sign herbie, then go bananas elsewhere with the left over cash.

 

[hindy111]

In the backs we have Blake and Gutherson who will be there for another 3yrs or so.
If this Penisini kid is as good as some are predicting he will fill a spot in 2022.
That's 3/5 taken. It leaves the likes of Opacic,Dunster as options or squad fillers and the possibility of Fergo given a 1yr extension. We would also have MJs money which is most likely around 350k we are unable to spend currently. Fergo won't command 500k anymore. Perhaps around the 350k mark. And Sivo is apparently in 350k.

So we would have 1.2 million to spend. Penisni most likely will get some sort of upgrade. But it would leave 1.1mill.
If we snared Fergo for 1yr at 350k that leaves 750k. Id let Sivo walk and happily run out with

Guth
Blake
Opacic
Pensini
Fergo

And who knows Dunster may surprise. If Sivo signs elsewhere BA should give him a shot.

The following year this Shaun Russel kid might be ready. And same goes for Naiduki.
We should get a better idea around rnd 8-10 to what some of the juniors look like.

 

[PARRA_FAN]

It'll be interesting to see what attitude they go in with next week against Melbourne, it was a really poor start and you cannot do that against Melbourne.

I'm glad they came back the way they did and realised that hanging onto the ball with a simple game plan can work.

I'll give credit to the new boys especially Pa'apalli, it was outstanding performance from him and I hope he keeps it up. Opicec was solid but did a fine job, Hipgrave will get better.

 

[Eelementary]

Honestly, imo, Opacic is first centre picked.

Have a look at that try he saved from Turpin - Turpin had a good 3 metre head start on Tom, and Tom still forced a Broncos error. Opacic showed pace, a cool head, and determination. That play practically put an end to the Broncos' hopes.

He was also a rock defensively all night, plugging a lot of holes which could have caused us issues.

I would be very happy with this bloke as our long-term centre - he's not a game-breaking attacking weapon, but he is a rock defensively, which I find is way more important for a centre.

 

[Twizzle]

Honestly, imo, Opacic is first centre picked.

bar isn't exactly high when the human windmill is the other centre

 

[Poupou Escobar]

bar isn't exactly high when the human windmill is the other centre

*centipede

 

[Eelementary]

bar isn't exactly high when the human windmill is the other centre

Very true.

But I meant it more in the sense that Opacic is more than serviceable at centre.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

bar isn't exactly high when the human windmill is the other centre

That's unfair. He's more of a butterfly valve.

 

[SDM]

Quick scan through the thread....yep still full of idiots.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I have learning difficulties ffs

 

[84 Baby]

I thought I’d do a rudimentary player stat analysis to see if they measure up to the eyeball analysis.

Spine
Gutho - 203 run metres (87m from 7 kick returns and 12m from ONE dummy half run), 1 tackle break, 44 possessions, 1 LBA, 1 TA (the same pass) and 2 errors

Drown - 86 run metres (not going to dissect his kick return metres), no tackle or line breaks, 45 possessions, no LBAs or TAs, 5 kicks for 122m, 30 tackles and 5 shit ones and 2 errors

Moses - 54 run metres, 5 tackle breaks (pretty sure all on the same run), 62 possessions, no LBAs or TAs, 11 kicks for 302m, 19 tackles and 4 shit ones

Rheed - 105 run metres inc 60 from 5 dummy half runs with 4 tackle breaks and 2 line breaks, 115 possessions with 1 LBA/TA, 2 kicks for 92m and 56 tackles with 5 half shit ones (probably Pangai offloads)

From my view, I couldn’t believe Gutho ran 200m. I barely remember him doing much of anything. Be interesting to see whether this was planned or just happened, but Gutho being less involved is probably the cause or symptom of us looking so shit.

Reading that Wok article, Moses and Drown did f**k all in attack but I’m wondering if that’s a symptom of others poor performances, particularly in the 1st half. Watching the Wigers yesterday, compared to Rorters, Smugfers, etc. players in motion will 100% be the key to unlocking both our halves. It’s hard to do anything when you only have one running option.

Rheed... well clearly BA has listened to you merkins and told Rheed to run, or taken the shackles off from last year. Or possibly Rheed being a year wiser has done so himself. Outside of one run in first half, he ran at good times, but what isn’t shown in stats was how he got out of dummy half to engage the A defenders. This in particular is what he needs to do more. Visually he did it too sporadically against Boncos.

I’ll do edges and middles when I’m not getting paid to do something else.

 

[yy_cheng]

Drop balls in the first half would've killed halves and gutho's involvement.

There were some on early counts and in good field position.

 

[84 Baby]

Drop balls in the first half would've killed halves and gutho's involvement.

There were some on early counts and in good field position.

Absolutely. And not just to the lost possession but what little off ball effort we did have shrunk even further probably because players didn’t want to make further errors. Some of that is also on the halves for communication

 

[Angry_eel]

bar isn't exactly high when the human windmill is the other centre

He's less of a Human Windmill and more of a Don Quixote. He imagines the attacker and when he comes close out of the line, the attacker is a mirage.

 

[hineyrulz]

I thought I’d do a rudimentary player stat analysis to see if they measure up to the eyeball analysis.

Spine
Gutho - 203 run metres (87m from 7 kick returns and 12m from ONE dummy half run), 1 tackle break, 44 possessions, 1 LBA, 1 TA (the same pass) and 2 errors

Drown - 86 run metres (not going to dissect his kick return metres), no tackle or line breaks, 45 possessions, no LBAs or TAs, 5 kicks for 122m, 30 tackles and 5 shit ones and 2 errors

Moses - 54 run metres, 5 tackle breaks (pretty sure all on the same run), 62 possessions, no LBAs or TAs, 11 kicks for 302m, 19 tackles and 4 shit ones

Rheed - 105 run metres inc 60 from 5 dummy half runs with 4 tackle breaks and 2 line breaks, 115 possessions with 1 LBA/TA, 2 kicks for 92m and 56 tackles with 5 half shit ones (probably Pangai offloads)

From my view, I couldn’t believe Gutho ran 200m. I barely remember him doing much of anything. Be interesting to see whether this was planned or just happened, but Gutho being less involved is probably the cause or symptom of us looking so shit.

Reading that Wok article, Moses and Drown did f**k all in attack but I’m wondering if that’s a symptom of others poor performances, particularly in the 1st half. Watching the Wigers yesterday, compared to Rorters, Smugfers, etc. players in motion will 100% be the key to unlocking both our halves. It’s hard to do anything when you only have one running option.

Rheed... well clearly BA has listened to you merkins and told Rheed to run, or taken the shackles off from last year. Or possibly Rheed being a year wiser has done so himself. Outside of one run in first half, he ran at good times, but what isn’t shown in stats was how he got out of dummy half to engage the A defenders. This in particular is what he needs to do more. Visually he did it too sporadically against Boncos.

I’ll do edges and middles when I’m not getting paid to do something else.

I like the look of this rudimentary players stat analysis.

 

[Angry_eel]

I thought I’d do a rudimentary player stat analysis to see if they measure up to the eyeball analysis.

Spine
Gutho - 203 run metres (87m from 7 kick returns and 12m from ONE dummy half run), 1 tackle break, 44 possessions, 1 LBA, 1 TA (the same pass) and 2 errors

Drown - 86 run metres (not going to dissect his kick return metres), no tackle or line breaks, 45 possessions, no LBAs or TAs, 5 kicks for 122m, 30 tackles and 5 shit ones and 2 errors

Moses - 54 run metres, 5 tackle breaks (pretty sure all on the same run), 62 possessions, no LBAs or TAs, 11 kicks for 302m, 19 tackles and 4 shit ones

Rheed - 105 run metres inc 60 from 5 dummy half runs with 4 tackle breaks and 2 line breaks, 115 possessions with 1 LBA/TA, 2 kicks for 92m and 56 tackles with 5 half shit ones (probably Pangai offloads)

From my view, I couldn’t believe Gutho ran 200m. I barely remember him doing much of anything. Be interesting to see whether this was planned or just happened, but Gutho being less involved is probably the cause or symptom of us looking so shit.

Reading that Wok article, Moses and Drown did f**k all in attack but I’m wondering if that’s a symptom of others poor performances, particularly in the 1st half. Watching the Wigers yesterday, compared to Rorters, Smugfers, etc. players in motion will 100% be the key to unlocking both our halves. It’s hard to do anything when you only have one running option.

Rheed... well clearly BA has listened to you merkins and told Rheed to run, or taken the shackles off from last year. Or possibly Rheed being a year wiser has done so himself. Outside of one run in first half, he ran at good times, but what isn’t shown in stats was how he got out of dummy half to engage the A defenders. This in particular is what he needs to do more. Visually he did it too sporadically against Boncos.

I’ll do edges and middles when I’m not getting paid to do something else.

Why was Moses the first receiver so many times? Any idea?

 

[84 Baby]

Why was Moses the first receiver so many times? Any idea?

Key decision maker. He is the guy who weighs up who is running where and if to pass to them. He’s also our key general play kicker so he gets extra possessions just off that.

 

[Angry_eel]

Key decision maker. He is the guy who weighs up who is running where and if to pass to them. He’s also our key general play kicker so he gets extra possessions just off that.

Sorry I meant marker. At times, I saw him taking the ball with Mahoney nowhere to be seen.