2022 NRL ratings

[The_Wookie]

Yep. Two regional teams didn’t make the top twenty 5 city metro. Not a huge surprise.

should make the consolidated data next week though with BVOD and regional. With Total TV reporting we at least get top 30 instead of 20

 

[Wb1234]

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Lol more alts coming on to attack the wookie. He actually provides the data and makes this thread worth reading. The rest of you numpties just fill this thread with BS.

we all know nrl trumps afl. Each round averages close to 5 million viewers. Throw in origins other rep games and the extra rounds and it’s not rocket science

league will trounce afl again. Norman was upset someone called him a fumbler. He is it’s the truth

when he compares both sports he never mentions he’s excluding nz when he makes comparisons

even last year when the nrl beat the afl by 17 million viewers he really seemed to struggle to admit it when baselinepanther was the first to mention it

 

[Perth Red]

It’s always people who offer the least, or nothing at all, to the discussions who are the biggest critics of other posters lol. If nothing to add call someone an afl troll seems pretty much the mo of the brain dead.

Thanks for the data Wookie, it’s always good to see how we are travelling.

 

[The_Wookie]

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we all know nrl trumps afl. Each round averages close to 5 million viewers. Throw in origins other rep games and the extra rounds and it’s not rocket science

league will trounce afl again. Norman was upset someone called him a fumbler. He is it’s the truth

when he compares both sports he never mentions he’s excluding nz when he makes comparisons

even last year when the nrl beat the afl by 17 million viewers he really seemed to struggle to admit it when baselinepanther was the first to mention it

AFL is averaging more than 5 million viewers a round too, and generally rates better in finals, but in recent times not enough to make up for Origin. That has not always been the case. However the AFL generally catches the NRLs first week leadin within the early rounds, and that wont happen this year either, so its probably a win to the NRL that can be called already this year.

I wasnt upset that someone called me a fumbler. I just wont respond to idiots who insult me in one thread and then expect answers for stuff in another.

No offence dude, but I was way out in front on the numbers last year as soon as they were available. I called the NRL in front at seasons end without any struggle or reluctance whatsoever.

I never mention nz because the data hasnt been released since 2015 and after 6 years that should be well and truly known by people who follow my feed, not least because i show the source of my data as being Oztam who dont rate in NZ, or Australian tv channels.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

work it out for yourself. Im not really into answering people who call me a "fumble-ball friendly muppet" in other threads

The only people I call "afl-friendly muppets" are the people who work on the SportsIndustry website, if you don`t, then I am not referring to you, if you do, then you are an afl friendly muppet.

NRL 2022	FTA Cons7	9NOW Cons 7	Cons 7 Total	Fox Group	Foxtel Cons 7	Kayo (est 84% STB )	Cons 7 Total
Total	4,412,000	310,000	10,308,000	10,054,400	5,586,000	4,626,480	14,878,880
Average	490,222	34,444	644,250	420,000	232,750	192,770	619,953

An obvious mistake was your last column where you had said that this chart was to the end of round 4, i.e. 32 games, 14 878 880 divided by 32 does not equal 619 953 ; but it does if it is divided by 24 i.e. the end of round 3. And many of the internal calculations just do not add up.
BTW I love poring over charts like this analysing them and looking for insights and trends but it is always nice if they are accurate.

 

[The_Wookie]

The only people I call "afl-friendly muppets" are the people who work on the SportsIndustry website, if you don`t, then I am not referring to you, if you do, then you are an afl friendly muppet.

NRL 2022	FTA Cons7	9NOW Cons 7	Cons 7 Total	Fox Group	Foxtel Cons 7	Kayo (est 84% STB )	Cons 7 Total
Total	4,412,000	310,000	10,308,000	10,054,400	5,586,000	4,626,480	14,878,880
Average	490,222	34,444	644,250	420,000	232,750	192,770	619,953

An obvious mistake was your last column where you had said that this chart was to the end of round 4, i.e. 32 games, 14 878 880 divided by 32 does not equal 619 953 ; but it does if it is divided by 24 i.e. the end of round 3. And many of the internal calculations just do not add up.
BTW I love poring over charts like this analysing them and looking for insights and trends but it is always nice if they are accurate.

I AM sportsindustry in its entirety - theres no other people there. And I wont be responding to you further.

edit: i will say this - the table posted was to the end of round 3, not round 4. So in that i was mistaken when i said it was for round 4. It is possible to constructively criticise and that is always taken on board when civil. the table was slightly rearranged for presentation here - the cons7 total includes Foxtel cons 7, but not 9now.

Round 4 should look like this

								Kayo
	Metro Cons 7	Reg Cons 7	FTA Cons7	Foxtel Cons 7	9NOW Cons 7	Cons 7 Total	Fox Group	(est 84% ON STV )	Cons 7 Total
Season	3,691,000	2,176,000	5,867,000	7,407,000	409,000	13,683,000	13,346,160	6,129,240	19,756,640
Average	307,583	181,333	488,917	231,469	34,083	427,594	417,068	191,539	617,395

 

[Menaiduck]

I AM sportsindustry - theres no other people there. And I wont be responding to you further.

Solid response mate. Some people here are just downright rude.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[The_Wookie]

Broncos v Roosters last week becomes the 10th game in either the AFL or NRL this season to top the million mark with all Nine/Fox included (to the end of last round).

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Don't the OzTam ratings deliberately omit the regional viewers because their inclusion would drive the NRL's total well past AwFuL?

The Australian media is full of AwFuL apologists and fumbleball ambassadors who make the CCP look fair and balanced.

 

[Menaiduck]

Don't the OzTam ratings deliberately omit the regional viewers because their inclusion would drive the NRL's total well past AwFuL?

The Australian media is full of AwFuL apologists and fumbleball ambassadors who make the CCP look fair and balanced.

No they don’t. But yes it’s all a conspiracy and luckily for us you’re here to save us all. Clive Palmer says hello.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No they don’t. But yes it’s all a conspiracy and luckily for us you’re here to save us all. Clive Palmer says hello.

Every time I see the ratings they shows the five metro areas (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide) without mentioning the regionals. The regional population of Queensland and NSW is larger than Adelaide and Perth and firmly pro-RL.

 

[Menaiduck]

Every time I see the ratings they shows the five metro areas (Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide) without mentioning the regionals. The regional population of Queensland and NSW is larger than Adelaide and Perth and firmly pro-RL.

Then I suggest you look further. I’ve been analysing tv ratings for over a decade. It’s not easy mainly because advertisers have a bent towards fta metro thus their availability. In the past 5 years streaming has killed fta dominance. The world has changed but the reporting hasn’t caught up. The Wookie is the only person I’m aware of who has bothered to faithfully report nrl/afl ratings recently. Journalists are lazy and only report what’s given to them. That’s why the reporting is often wrong re footy viewing. It’s not a conspiracy. The Wookie actually bothers to try and analyse this data accurately. Yes occasionally he gets it wrong. But he’s bloody good.

 

[The_Wookie]

Don't the OzTam ratings deliberately omit the regional viewers because their inclusion would drive the NRL's total well past AwFuL?

The Australian media is full of AwFuL apologists and fumbleball ambassadors who make the CCP look fair and balanced.

OzTAM doesnt do the ratings for regionals, that is handled by RegTAM - technically a separate organisation.

Welcome to Regional TAM

www.regionaltam.com.au

OzTAM releases data daily and Total TV (inc regionals and bvod) a week later, RegTAM is about 2 weeks behind publicly. In order to get regional data you have to be a very specific type of ratings subscriber - which i suspect Mediaweek was the only one and has now let lapse with TotalTV covering most of it hence their tweets lacking things lately - or you get it from press releases from the Networks which both Nine and Seven release very sporadically, Ten hardly ever do and Kayo is like pulling teeth.

(As an aside, the quote I got as a non profit journal reporting ratings just for AFL and NRL data over a year was in excess of $21,000 for a subscription.)

The data is harder to get, and media including Seven and Nines own releases is far more focussed on metro ratings than regional, although both are now moving to be more inclusive as it helps both their national marketing initiatives launched in the last 12 months.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Then I suggest you look further. I’ve been analysing tv ratings for over a decade. It’s not easy mainly because advertisers have a bent towards fta metro thus their availability. In the past 5 years streaming has killed fta dominance. The world has changed but the reporting hasn’t caught up. The Wookie is the only person I’m aware of who has bothered to faithfully report nrl/afl ratings recently. Journalists are lazy and only report what’s given to them. That’s why the reporting is often wrong re footy viewing. It’s not a conspiracy. The Wookie actually bothers to try and analyse this data accurately. Yes occasionally he gets it wrong. But he’s bloody good.

I have a great deal of respect for The_Wookie. He's intelligent and analytical. He's not a code warrior and is a valuable resource providing important information.

My beef is with the likes of Caroline Wilson, Kelli Underwood, Jeff Kennett and other fumbleball ambassadors within the media who hate rugby league. The Offsiders program on the ABC is a prime example of the favourtism that's given to the other game. I wouldn't have a problem with the other game if it didn't have so many apologists and ambassadors in the media taking cheap shots at the game I've loved since I was a kid.

 

[The_Wookie]

I have a great deal of respect for The_Wookie. He's intelligent and analytical. He's not a code warrior and is a valuable resource providing important information.

My beef is with the likes of Caroline Wilson, Kelli Underwood, Jeff Kennett and other fumbleball ambassadors within the media who hate rugby league. The Offsiders program on the ABC is a prime example of the favourtism that's given to the other game. I wouldn't have a problem with the other game if it didn't have so many apologists and ambassadors in the media taking cheap shots at the game I've loved since I was a kid.

Im not so sure they hate rugby league, as much as they just dont care about it enough to want to talk about it, but then I cant stand Caroline Wilson or Kellie Underwood so I dont really watch Offsiders any more.

Theres a lot of AFL media people around - i saw an article the other day that claimed theres more accedited AFL journalists in Melbourne than there are political journalists in Canberra, and AFL media itself was reported at one stage to be larger than many news organisations.

Over time these guys move on and up into other news organisations and their biases will show in the coverage. I think Offisders is actually produced from Melbourne which might explain that a little - also why Roy Masters is their go to League guy as I believe he lives in Melbourne as well.

Caroline Wilsons dad was a big Richmond VFL official back in the day and does commentary on the AFL with 3AW, Kelli Underwood started her media career as an AFL commentator with Ten, and now Seven, and not only was Jeff Kennett the premier of Victoria, but he was and is the current president of an AFL club.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Im not so sure they hate rugby league, as much as they just dont care about it enough to want to talk about it, but then I cant stand Caroline Wilson or Kellie Underwood so I dont really watch Offsiders any more.

Theres a lot of AFL media people around - i saw an article the other day that claimed theres more accedited AFL journalists in Melbourne than there are political journalists in Canberra, and AFL media itself was reported at one stage to be larger than many news organisations.

Over time these guys move on and up into other news organisations and their biases will show in the coverage. I think Offisders is actually produced from Melbourne which might explain that a little - also why Roy Masters is their go to League guy as I believe he lives in Melbourne as well.

Caroline Wilsons dad was a big Richmond VFL official back in the day and does commentary on the AFL with 3AW, Kelli Underwood started her media career as an AFL commentator with Ten, and now Seven, and not only was Jeff Kennett the premier of Victoria, but he was and is the current president of an AFL club.

I think the likes of Underwood, Kennet and Wilson view RL as their main competitor, hence the reason they are so vitriolic about it. I've become just as vitriolic about their game because they've made it known that they want to crush rugby league. John O'Neill let his hatred of rugby league known in the early 2000s and ever since it's been downhill for rugby union. I think the AFL made the same mistake when they brought in the Suns and Giants. Their recruitment of NRL players from the Broncos didn't sit well with people up here. Kevin Sheedy got people in Western Sydney offside.

 

[Menaiduck]

I think the likes of Underwood, Kennet and Wilson view RL as their main competitor, hence the reason they are so vitriolic about it. I've become just as vitriolic about their game because they've made it known that they want to crush rugby league. John O'Neill let his hatred of rugby league known in the early 2000s and ever since it's been downhill for rugby union. I think the AFL made the same mistake when they brought in the Suns and Giants. Their recruitment of NRL players from the Broncos didn't sit well with people up here. Kevin Sheedy got people in Western Sydney offside.

O’Neill hates league so much he became a swans member after getting tossed off the ARU. The hate is real.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

I think the likes of Underwood, Kennet and Wilson view RL as their main competitor, hence the reason they are so vitriolic about it. I've become just as vitriolic about their game because they've made it known that they want to crush rugby league. John O'Neill let his hatred of rugby league known in the early 2000s and ever since it's been downhill for rugby union. I think the AFL made the same mistake when they brought in the Suns and Giants. Their recruitment of NRL players from the Broncos didn't sit well with people up here. Kevin Sheedy got people in Western Sydney offside.

The story I heard - and it was a long long time ago, but I remember it because I can`t stand o`neill as well - that was told by Roy Masters was that o`neill who played once in some comp or other, it obviously wasn`t NSWRL, came up against an international League centre and was treated like a `turnstile` I`m pretty sure that was the word Masters used, all afternoon during one match, absolutely humiliating him. If I remember correctly, this is where o`neills hatred for League stemmed from according to Masters.
Now Roy maybe have been taking a bit of artistic licence there, although I have no doubt the story was true, but more likely o`neill`s hatred of league probably stems from League having pinched union players for all those years. The turnstile incident most likely just added a bit of venom to his dislike, it would have tough for a big-head like him to get publicly humiliated.
BTW, I`ve always had it in my head that it was the Commonwealth Bank Cup, is that the old schoolboy comp? so the centre he came up against may have been a future League international, but I wouldn`t quote me on that.