2022 NRL ratings

[The_Wookie]

Nah like I said Rupert could’ve started new teams like he did in rugby league

the arl tried to stop Rupert starting his comp and they ultimately failed

so again he spent 500 million on league when he would’ve signed the afl pay tv rights at the time for 50 years lmao

you should’ve seen how afl was perceived In Sydney in the 90s

it was a laughingstock

aerial ping pong was the nicest term used

its not all about sydney. It never was. It was about access to clubs AND players, These things were bolted down in the AFL and werent in the NRL. He asked the one person in the AFL who would be likely to go down that path and was knocked back - because the VFL dealt with the superleague issue after the Macedon summit in 1985 and took preventative measures to ensure it couldnt happen again. The NRSWRL never learnt the lesson.

 

[Storm80]

Nah like I said Rupert could’ve started new teams like he did in rugby league

the arl tried to stop Rupert starting his comp and they ultimately failed

so again he spent 500 million on league when he would’ve signed the afl pay tv rights at the time for 50 years lmao

you should’ve seen how afl was perceived In Sydney in the 90s

it was a laughingstock

aerial ping pong was the nicest term used

Hahaha this is the most deluded shit I’ve ever read.

Channel 7 had all rights to AFL. Including pay tv rights - they went with Optus and produced the AFL channel for them.

Murdoch couldn’t get the rights to AFL in 1995 no matter what he did, channel 7 owned them.

Murdoch, in a rush to catch up with Optus vision (which had secured AFL and ARL), knew he needed a sport to get subscribers otherwise Foxtel/galaxy were going to tank.

Murdoch did the sums and looked at his options and spent $500m destroying the ARL and setting up a rival league to win over the NSW and Qld market.

Over the next 2-3 years he bleed the game dry and got what he wanted with the NRL merger - tv rights of the whole code.

At the first opportunity, Murdoch won AFL pay tv rights in 2000, as soon as channel 7 rights were up. He’s never let go of AFL pay tv rights since.

If Murdoch could have legally created a super league for ARL and AFL he would have. He would have easily spent $1b to own AFL and ARL if he could. Fact is, AFL governance and contractual agreements with Channel 7 were so water tight he couldn’t establish an AFL super league even if it was the only thing he desperately desired, regardless of preference - the ARL was just an easy win

 

[Wb1234]

its not all about sydney. It never was. It was about access to clubs AND players, These things were bolted down in the AFL and werent in the NRL. He asked the one person in the AFL who would be likely to go down that path and was knocked back - because the VFL dealt with the superleague issue after the Macedon summit in 1985 and took preventative measures to ensure it couldnt happen again. The NRSWRL never learnt the lesson.

Nah if he offered afl players a million a season like he did nrl ones he wouldve signed up anyone he wanted

Murdoch literally said he preferred afl to rugby league yet he chose league to make his network the number one pay tv in Australia

guess what ? It worked

and nsw and esp Sydney are the most important sporting market in Australia

 

[The_Wookie]

Nah if he offered afl players a million a season like he did nrl ones he wouldve signed up anyone he wanted

Murdoch literally said he preferred afl to rugby league yet he chose league to make his network the number one pay tv in Australia

guess what ? It worked

and nsw and esp Sydney are the most important sporting market in Australia

Contract law doesnt really work that way but then again reality doesnt seem to work the way you think it does.

And its highly disputable that Sydney is the most important sporting market - overall market sure, but sporting wise...not really. Its certainly not by ratings, attendances, memberships, sponsorship, gate takings or anything else sporting wise.

 

[tri_colours]

Hahaha this is the most deluded shit I’ve ever read.

Channel 7 had all rights to AFL. Including pay tv rights - they went with Optus and produced the AFL channel for them.

Murdoch couldn’t get the rights to AFL in 1995 no matter what he did, channel 7 owned them.

Murdoch, in a rush to catch up with Optus vision (which had secured AFL and ARL), knew he needed a sport to get subscribers otherwise Foxtel/galaxy were going to tank.

Murdoch did the sums and looked at his options and spent $500m destroying the ARL and setting up a rival league to win over the NSW and Qld market.

Over the next 2-3 years he bleed the game dry and got what he wanted with the NRL merger - tv rights of the whole code.

At the first opportunity, Murdoch won AFL pay tv rights in 2000, as soon as channel 7 rights were up. He’s never let go of AFL pay tv rights since.

If Murdoch could have legally created a super league for ARL and AFL he would have. He would have easily spent $1b to own AFL and ARL if he could. Fact is, AFL governance and contractual agreements with Channel 7 were so water tight he couldn’t establish an AFL super league even if it was the only thing he desperately desired, regardless of preference - the ARL was just

 

[Wb1234]

Contract law doesnt really work that way but then again reality doesnt seem to work the way you think it does.

And its highly disputable that Sydney is the most important sporting market - overall market sure, but sporting wise...not really. Its certainly not by ratings, attendances, memberships, sponsorship, gate takings or anything else sporting wise.

Nrl players had contracts too

anyway league is back an expansion mode let’s see which sport ends up number one once league adds all the teams in wants too

afl is tapped out for growth imo

of course Sydney is the most important it’s why the afl is throwing so much money at the giants when nobody supports them

 

[The_Wookie]

of course Sydney is the most important it’s why the afl is throwing so much money at the giants when nobody supports them

its a big area of potential thats why the AFl is doing it. It pales into insignificance next to the importance of Melbourne to the league.

 

[tri_colours]

its a big area of potential thats why the AFl is doing it. It pales into insignificance next to the importance of Melbourne to the league.

The Sydney clubs may get less ratings on FTA but get more than Melbournes AFL clubs on PTV.

 

[Perth Red]

There is still plenty of opportunities in Qld and there Rugby League mad. Just like the Paciffic.

You don’t think people who already like RL aren’t watching? Or do you think there are lots of people in qlnd who don’t yet like RL but will because THE Dolphins have joined? And if yes why dont they like RL now when it’s a heartland state? It’s like saying we lost north sydney region because there isn’t a nrl club based there, it’s nonsense.

 

[Colk]

Nrl players had contracts too

anyway league is back an expansion mode let’s see which sport ends up number one once league adds all the teams in wants too

afl is tapped out for growth imo

of course Sydney is the most important it’s why the afl is throwing so much money at the giants when nobody supports them

We are a fair way back at this point in time - not in ratings but actual revenue. We have potential at this point in time it also matters where we put these sides. Put in them in the wrong place or wherein the revenue won’t be maximised then it won’t mean jack

 

[Colk]

The Sydney clubs may get less ratings on FTA but get more than Melbournes AFL clubs on PTV.

He is talking about the importance of Melbourne in comparison to Sydney for their competition

 

[Colk]

Nah if he offered afl players a million a season like he did nrl ones he wouldve signed up anyone he wanted

Murdoch literally said he preferred afl to rugby league yet he chose league to make his network the number one pay tv in Australia

guess what ? It worked

and nsw and esp Sydney are the most important sporting market in Australia

You are not understanding what he is saying.

A player has a contract with a club not the actual competition, so then it comes down to club licences. The AFL clubs would have had to invalidate their licence with the competition, and move to a rebel league. The players would then have had to decide to join or not. Without clubs going, players would have had to break contracts with those clubs which would have required them to go to court.

Super League happened because clubs decided to join that competition.

 

[The_Wookie]

The Sydney clubs may get less ratings on FTA but get more than Melbournes AFL clubs on PTV.

Im well beyond ratings when talking about importance to the league. The AFL makes a lot of money from attendances at the MCG and Docklands - let alone the fact it owns the stadium in Melbourne and all that.

 

[The_Wookie]

You are not understanding what he is saying.

A player has a contract with a club not the actual competition, so then it comes down to club licences. The AFL clubs would have had to invalidate their licence with the competition, and move to a rebel league. The players would then have had to decide to join or not. Without clubs going, players would have had to break contracts with those clubs which would have required them to go to court.

Super League happened because clubs decided to join that competition.

AFL player contracts are actually tripartite - with the league and the club

 

[Colk]

AFL player contracts are actually tripartite - with the league and the club

Well there you go. Even less likely to break in order to form a rebel competition

 

[Colk]

Murdoch was from Adelaide

why didn’t he go after afl for his pay tv network if it rated ?

He spent 500 million on super league thats how desperate he wanted it

what weee the afl rights worth back then ? 5 million pa ?

the lions and swans both flirted with bankruptcy

indeed the lions were moved from Gold Coast and renamed bears to lions after killing off Fitzroy

Let’s see how foxsports fairs if they lose the nrl to Stan and only have afl as their main winter sport

Well you actually have to get to that point (moving it to a subscription service) in order for us to achieve that goal of beating fumbleball.

We could do that yet I don’t think V’Landys has the cojones or brilliance to actually successfully do this. He is more likely to look us in for a longer period.

I severely hope that I’m wrong but nothing he has done thus far suggests to me that he is capable of pulling it off

 

[Colk]

Stephen Bradbury won a gold medal

doesn’t mean he was the best athlete at the time

afl is the Stephen Bradbury of Australian football codes

Unless Stephen Bradbury is being asked to hand back his gold medal then it doesn’t matter.

We shouldn’t care how or why it happened - at least to a point. Our biggest concern is how to put ourselves in the best position moving forward.

 

[Colk]

Afl goes for3 hours

test cricket goes for five days

so using your theory cricket should be the highest paid sport

maybe it’s just afl house managed to spin a turd into claims it’s a national competition and broadcasters have fallen for it

but hey just a theory

Why don’t we test that theory ourselves? I don’t care how we match their deal but let’s find a way to do it

 

[Colk]

No we didnt beat them..


But my point was, with a very one sided score line like that cant read to much into it regardless of who's playing who

There prepared to pay more if

They will have competiton next deal, it wii be interesting to see what they will pay now they have competition!

Is that guaranteed?

 

[Iamback]

What was the AFL ch7 market Share? 90%?

NRL last night 46% market share.

So like with SOO it shows the move is to 9 now and streaming. Maybe the ratings needs to move with the times