2022 NRL ratings

[Colk]

I'm talking about the future. Of course it's behind cricket at the moment, but that doesn't mean it will be in 20 years from now when all the old timers who have a bias for cricket are dead.

Basketball is the main sport in the Philippines and very popular in China. There's a large Chinese and Philippino community in Australia and they support the NRL. Their population is going to grow over the next few decades. They don't give two shits about cricket.

I see lots of young kids from all ethnicities at NBL games. Most games are sold out or close to it. The average salary for an NBL player is increasing. Compare this with the BBL, which has declining audiences and an older fanbase. B CO won't allow Indian contracted players to compete in it and the best players from Australia are busy playing Tests. A few Englishmen play in it when they're not on tour for England. It has club players not good enough for Sheffield Shield playing in it. I stopped watching last year as the quality is terrible. Even Ch7 want to tear up their contract with CA over the BBL.

Test cricket is a dying format and there's only 5 or 6 each summer.


We just had a very successful FIBA Women's World Cup in Sydney where we won bronze. The crowds were great.

I took an interest in the NBL 12 months. Every match is broadcast on ESPN with two simulcast each Sunday on 10Peach.

Australia is ranked number 2 in men's basketball. This sport is a sleeping giant.

You’re showing your own bias when you assume that the only people watching cricket are old timers. Also, if you’re claiming immigration as a big factor, you’ll know that many more migrants are coming from India, England and New Zealand combined than from China

Also, I know you are talking about the future but it just won’t happen. It is simply the most deluded projection I have seen for a while, probably since those AFL fans claiming their sport would be a hit in China.

Have a look at these numbers

Summer Survey TV ratings: Sunday December 26, 2021, Week 1

There was a sports feast for viewers on Boxing Day with the MCG Third Test dominating TV ratings with over 1.8m watching the third session.

www.mediaweek.com.au

The Test figures were approximately 2 million over Seven and Fox. The NBL games averaged 57k. BBL games, even though it has run into trouble is still averaging 600k a match.

The idea that basketball which is tracking about 9% of a BBL match and about 2% of a test match session is somehow going to take over cricket any time in the future is the most ludicrous position I have seen for a while. You’re making yourself look foolish by even suggesting it as a possibility.

NBL’s realistic target is A-League and Union.

 

[The_Wookie]

@Perth Red knows how much Parra get from sponsorship. It's lower than the Cowboys. A quick look at the Parramatta Leagues 2021 annual report listed their revenue from "sponsorship and hospitality" as $7.9m on p37. Most of the club's revenue came from pokies ($35m) and the NRL grant ($14m). Cowboys drew $8.9m in sponsorship alone and another $6.8m from "food and beverage", which is another name for "hospitality". It's listed on p18 of the Cowboys annual report. We don't know exactly what Parra is getting from sponsorship as they bundle it with hospitality. Swans do the same thing to get to a number of $15.2m. If you do the same for the Cowboys them the club made $15.9m from "sponsorship and hospitality".

I'm going by the annual reports of Broncos, Cowboys, Eels (above), Sharks and Bulldogs. Broncos dwarf every club in money from merchandise, membership and gate receipts. I'm talking about sponsorship because it reflects on a club's value to the corporate sector. The Sydney clubs often group sponsorship together with hospitality aka food and beverage, so it's hard to know when their worth is to the corporate sector.

Sponsorship	Code	Sponsorship	Note
Brisbane	NRL	12.757
Canberra	NRL	Not Given
Canterbury	NRL	5.66
Cronulla	NRL	4.033	inc Hospitality
Melbourne	NRL	not given
North Queensland	NRL	8.986	(+6.596m Hosp)
Parramatta	NRL	7.967	inc Hospitality
Penrith	NRL	7.983	(+952k hosp)
Sydney	NRL	8.197	inc Hospitality

Membership and Gameday
Club	Code	Membership	Matchday	Total
Brisbane	NRL	12.873	inc	12.873
Canberra	NRL	Not Given	Not Given	N/A
Canterbury	NRL	1.468	inc	1.468
Cronulla	NRL	0.787	0.791	1.578
Melbourne	NRL	3.638	Not given	3.638
North Queensland	NRL	3.029	5.932	8.961
Parramatta	NRL	4.891	inc	4.891
Penrith	NRL	1.128	1.81	2.938
Sydney	NRL	2.923	inc	2.923

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You’re showing your own bias when you assume that the only people watching cricket are old timers. Also, if you’re claiming immigration as a big factor, you’ll know that many more migrants are coming from India, England and New Zealand combined than from China

Also, I know you are talking about the future but it just won’t happen. It is simply the most deluded projection I have seen for a while, probably since those AFL fans claiming their sport would be a hit in China.

Have a look at these numbers

Summer Survey TV ratings: Sunday December 26, 2021, Week 1

There was a sports feast for viewers on Boxing Day with the MCG Third Test dominating TV ratings with over 1.8m watching the third session.

www.mediaweek.com.au

The Test figures were approximately 2 million over Seven and Fox. The NBL games averaged 57k. BBL games, even though it has run into trouble is still averaging 600k a match.

The idea that basketball which is tracking about 9% of a BBL match and about 2% of a test match session is somehow going to take over cricket any time in the future is the most ludicrous position I have seen for a while. You’re making yourself look foolish by even suggesting it as a possibility.

NBL’s realistic target is A-League and Union.

You're assuming I hate cricket. I don't. I played it and watched it until recently. I just don't see it appealing to the younger generation like it did when I was a kid. Nor do I see immigrants from non-Commonwealth countries caring for it. The BCCI controls with the game with an ironfist and use it to put India's interest ahead of Australia's. This isn't good as it saw our national team touring India in January a year or two ago, which is part of our season.

We no longer have T20Is and ODIs on FTA. Test cricket is dying. Who knows if it will be relevant in 20 years. Cricket doesn't really fit in with modern life.

BBL is experiencing a huge decline in ratings and attendances. Like I said earlier, Ch7 don't want it anymore because it's shit and went to court. It's also a bullshit Mickey mouse competition played during the school holidays with cheap tickets to boost attendances, which worked in the early years but has lost its pull as people don't want to watch club cricketers.

NBL sells tickets at a higher price and the current season runs between October and mid-February.

You obviously don't know anything about the NBL. You didn't know it was on ESPN and Ch10's 10Peach. The WNBL is also on ESPN and 9Now. The game is growing.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sponsorship	Code	Sponsorship	Note
Brisbane	NRL	12.757
Canberra	NRL	Not Given
Canterbury	NRL	5.66
Cronulla	NRL	4.033	inc Hospitality
Melbourne	NRL	not given
North Queensland	NRL	8.986	(+6.596m Hosp)
Parramatta	NRL	7.967	inc Hospitality
Penrith	NRL	7.983	(+952k hosp)
Sydney	NRL	8.197	inc Hospitality

Membership and Gameday
Club	Code	Membership	Matchday	Total
Brisbane	NRL	12.873	inc	12.873
Canberra	NRL	Not Given	Not Given	N/A
Canterbury	NRL	1.468	inc	1.468
Cronulla	NRL	0.787	0.791	1.578
Melbourne	NRL	3.638	Not given	3.638
North Queensland	NRL	3.029	5.932	8.961
Parramatta	NRL	4.891	inc	4.891
Penrith	NRL	1.128	1.81	2.938
Sydney	NRL	2.923	inc	2.923

Parramatta has improved match day earnings since Parramatta Stadium was upgraded. This doesn't bode well for the clubs who play at dumps.

Broncos are well ahead on this metric, followed not too far behind by Cowboys, then Parra and Melbourne.

Where did you find the hospitality figures for the Cowboys?

I cannot find anything for hospitality on the Cowboys' annual report.

Where are you getting your data for Penrith from?

The Penrith Panthers 2021 Annual Report says the claim generated $9.1m from sponsorship.

https://www.panthers.com.au/group-corporate/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021_AnnualReport_CLUB_FINAL-PAGES-compressed.pdf

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Basketball overtaking Cricket(the only sport that has claims to being our national sport ) is beyond laughable .
I remember in the late 80s when it had a decent following …talk of how big it was gunna be .On TV (7) I think on a Sat night .
even had commentators calling the game & thinking they were yanks with their fake accents
..lol Thrrrrrreeeeeee poiiiiiiiinter .
Anyone entertaining this idea belongs with the looney AFL zealots & their takeover the world crap.

 

[Colk]

You're assuming I hate cricket. I don't. I played it and watched it until recently. I just don't see it appealing to the younger generation like it did when I was a kid. Nor do I see immigrants from non-Commonwealth countries caring for it. The BCCI controls with the game with an ironfist and use it to put India's interest ahead of Australia's. This isn't good as it saw our national team touring India in January a year or two ago, which is part of our season.

We no longer have T20Is and ODIs on FTA. Test cricket is dying. Who knows if it will be relevant in 20 years. Cricket doesn't really fit in with modern life.

BBL is experiencing a huge decline in ratings and attendances. Like I said earlier, Ch7 don't want it anymore because it's shit and went to court. It's also a bullshit Mickey mouse competition played during the school holidays with cheap tickets to boost attendances, which worked in the early years but has lost its pull as people don't want to watch club cricketers.

NBL sells tickets at a higher price and the current season runs between October and mid-February.

You obviously don't know anything about the NBL. You didn't know it was on ESPN and Ch10's 10Peach. The WNBL is also on ESPN and 9Now. The game is growing.

I’m sorry that I assumed you were not a fan of cricket although the language you used guided that assumption.

I’ve heard this before about NBL - I recall in the 90’s when Jordan was in his pomp and NBA’s popularity was at its greatest that it was going to take over. Football think the same way because of the EPL.

The problem is these competitions (NBL or A-League) are largely inferior to these competitions, so why would a casual viewer (which is what sports growth hinges on) watch an inferior version of that same product. You say that people (in a perjorative sense I assume) don’t want to watch club cricketers; they also don’t want to watch blokes who aren’t good enough to play in the NBA or the EPL/European leagues

I’ve looked at the NBL attendances thus far - an average of 6,000 per game is nothing to crow about

NBL Results & Attendances | Austadiums

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Weekend Attendances - A-league Men, AFLW, Cricket and NBL - Sports Industry AU

A-league Men Code Week Day Date Time Home Away Venue Crowd Capacity %Capacity ALM 1 Fri 7/10 1945 Melbourne City Western United Aami Park 7,501 30,050 24.96% ALM 1 Sat 8/10 1700 Brisbane Macarthur Suncorp Stadium 8,521 52,500 16.23% ALM 1 Sat 8/10 1945 Sydney FC Melbourne Victory Allianz Stadium...

www.footyindustry.com

NBL’s TV audiences are what 50 odd k compared to a million or so for Test matches and about 600k per match for a ‘bullshit Mickey Mouse competition (again your bias is showing through). Even considering cricket’s troubles their TV audience is still 10, 20 or 30 times bigger than the NBL. This is even worse considering the fact that NBL are starting their competition when there is little else on (generally October is just A-League, Women’s Big Bash and AFLW)

You also keep making this point about immigrants from non Commonwealth countries not following cricket despite the fact that the majority of our immigration comes from commonwealth countries. So again this doesn’t help your argument.

The whole idea that NBL will overtake cricket, our national sport, is perplexing and risible.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I’m sorry that I assumed you were not a fan of cricket although the language you used guided that assumption.

I’ve heard this before about NBL - I recall in the 90’s when Jordan was in his pomp and NBA’s popularity was at its greatest that it was going to take over. Football think the same way because of the EPL.

The problem is these competitions (NBL or A-League) are largely inferior to these competitions, so why would a casual viewer (which is what sports growth hinges on) watch an inferior version of that same product. You say that people (in a perjorative sense I assume) don’t want to watch club cricketers; they also don’t want to watch blokes who aren’t good enough to play in the NBA or the EPL/European leagues

I’ve looked at the NBL attendances thus far - an average of 6,000 per game is nothing to crow about

NBL Results & Attendances | Austadiums

List of recent NBL results and scores, including attendance figures.

www.austadiums.com

Weekend Attendances - A-league Men, AFLW, Cricket and NBL - Sports Industry AU

A-league Men Code Week Day Date Time Home Away Venue Crowd Capacity %Capacity ALM 1 Fri 7/10 1945 Melbourne City Western United Aami Park 7,501 30,050 24.96% ALM 1 Sat 8/10 1700 Brisbane Macarthur Suncorp Stadium 8,521 52,500 16.23% ALM 1 Sat 8/10 1945 Sydney FC Melbourne Victory Allianz Stadium...

www.footyindustry.com

NBL’s TV audiences are what 50 odd k compared to a million or so for Test matches and about 600k per match for a ‘bullshit Mickey Mouse competition (again your bias is showing through). Even considering cricket’s troubles their TV audience is still 10, 20 or 30 times bigger than the NBL. This is even worse considering the fact that NBL are starting their competition when there is little else on (generally October is just A-League, Women’s Big Bash and AFLW)

You also keep making this point about immigrants from non Commonwealth countries not following cricket despite the fact that the majority of our immigration comes from commonwealth countries. So again this doesn’t help your argument.

The whole idea that NBL will overtake cricket, our national sport, is perplexing and risible.

There's less than half as many Indians in Australia than Chinese. Britain and China are Australia's two largest sources for immigration.

I said the future landscape will see AwFuL alone in tier 1, followed by cricket and rugby league in tier 2 and NBL in the third tier. This isn't as absurd as you claim. NBL has SE Asia and China to expand into and are currently debating on putting a team in the Philippines. The Philippino media follow Sotto's matches for the 36ers. The few Chinese imports also generate strong interest from the Australian Chinese community. Cricket cannot expand into these communities.

I stand by my comment that cricket is dying. ODIs meant something in the 90s. These days they're not even televised on FTA. Neither are T20is. Test matches not involving England and India aren't a draw in this country. I'd hate to see where the game will be in 30 years if the current trend continues. It took less than 30 years for ODIs to go from being the hottest ticket in town to not even being played on FTA. A few weeks ago we had ODIs in Cairns and Townsville. That's how far the game has fallen.

I went to a Catholic school that had a lot of immigrants from non-Commonwealth countries in the 90s. No one cared about cricket. It was a huge culture shock and opened my eyes to what life would look like in the future. They had Australian accents but didn't even understand the rules to cricket. It is what it is.

You really don't know anything about the NBL. There's plenty of players who have NBA experience. Americans with NBA prospects are now choosing the NBL over Europe. Bullets have experienced NBA players such as Aron Baynes and Tyler Johnson in their squad but lost their first five games. This is a team that also has Olympic bronze medallist Nathan Sobey. Adelaide 36ers beat a full strength Phoenix Suns 134-124 but have only won two of their five NBL games.

 

[Iamback]

NBL take over cricket

 

[The_Wookie]

Parramatta has improved match day earnings since Parramatta Stadium was upgraded. This doesn't bode well for the clubs who play at dumps.

Broncos are well ahead on this metric, followed not too far behind by Cowboys, then Parra and Melbourne.

Where did you find the hospitality figures for the Cowboys?

I cannot find anything for hospitality on the Cowboys' annual report.

Where are you getting your data for Penrith from?

The Penrith Panthers 2021 Annual Report says the claim generated $9.1m from sponsorship.

https://www.panthers.com.au/group-corporate/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/2021_AnnualReport_CLUB_FINAL-PAGES-compressed.pdf

Penrith data may have come from the actual club report not the consolidated leagues club figures. Not sure, it was very late lol

 

[Iamback]

Penrith data may have come from the actual club report not the consolidated leagues club figures. Not sure, it was very late lol

Lock down, Likely pushed all this sort of data out past the November RL cut off date.

 

[Wb1234]

Mate have a look at your own ratings when its a blowout. No one really watches a flogging.

If my crappy sport struggled to beat an all Sydney league final, that was a blowout, when my sport had teams from the two biggest markets in Australia I would be worried

but then again that’s just me you go on Ignoring my point

people are watching the rugby league World Cup now with loads of blowouts and the ratings are excellent and the game has set crowd records in non rugby league territory

 

[Colk]

There's less than half as many Indians in Australia than Chinese. Britain and China are Australia's two largest sources for immigration.

I said the future landscape will see AwFuL alone in tier 1, followed by cricket and rugby league in tier 2 and NBL in the third tier. This isn't as absurd as you claim. NBL has SE Asia and China to expand into and are currently debating on putting a team in the Philippines. The Philippino media follow Sotto's matches for the 36ers. The few Chinese imports also generate strong interest from the Australian Chinese community. Cricket cannot expand into these communities.

I stand by my comment that cricket is dying. ODIs meant something in the 90s. These days they're not even televised on FTA. Neither are T20is. Test matches not involving England and India aren't a draw in this country. I'd hate to see where the game will be in 30 years if the current trend continues. It took less than 30 years for ODIs to go from being the hottest ticket in town to not even being played on FTA. A few weeks ago we had ODIs in Cairns and Townsville. That's how far the game has fallen.

I went to a Catholic school that had a lot of immigrants from non-Commonwealth countries in the 90s. No one cared about cricket. It was a huge culture shock and opened my eyes to what life would look like in the future. They had Australian accents but didn't even understand the rules to cricket. It is what it is.

You really don't know anything about the NRL. There's plenty of players who have NBA experience. Americans with NBA prospects are now choosing the NBL over Europe.

What I’m saying too it is not plausible.

Is it possible, well anything is possible. We could all get hit by an asteroid tomorrow. I could bed a supermodel or become a billionaire. But those really aren’t predictions or projections that have any real degree of high plausibility because there isn’t a trend. The world hasn’t been hit by a destructive asteroid for millions of years so it is not likely to be tomorrow and the other two aren’t likely to happen either.

There just isn’t a trend with NBL.

For example, you are stating that it will challenge or overtake cricket because of immigration from non commonwealth countries. But we have had high levels of migration from non Commonwealth countries since the 70’s and 80’s. If NBL were going to challenge then you would have already seen a significant trend (you know more than 50k people watching a game) If there is a trend it is so negligible that you can’t really say it is a trend. Anyway, if we’re being serious as a factor and factoring in migration from China, Japan, Vietnam and Phillipines than you would see other sports being benefactors as well, probably more so than basketball.

Also migration from subcontinental countries is increasing not decreasing and their global populations are increasing (India to the point that it will overtake China’s) and if you haven’t noticed they tend to be somewhat interested in that ‘dying’ sport

The second point you simply refuse to address is about why the NBL and A-League fail to rate. It is nothing about the popularity of the sport or participation rates. It is because their competitions are seen as inferior products, pure and simple. You can argue that all you like but the general populace will more likely rattle off a fair few names playing in NBA or EPL before they could settle on one playing in the NBL and A-League. If you don’t believe me, just step back for a minute and consume mainstream media for a day and tell me how many stories or reports from the NBL and A-League and more importantly where they are positioned in that news. You can compare it to cricket as well, if you like, because sports media reporting reflects the interest levels of that sport in the general populace.

Last point, cricket isn’t dying, it is simply changing. ODI cricket is dying I agree and test cricket will probably only be played amongst a few nations but to suggest the game is dying is absurd. You will see less international matches and more leagues - it is essentially evolving to soccer where there is massive popularity in domestic leagues

These audience figures show the game isn’t dying. If your TV numbers are in the hundreds of millions worldwide, I think you’ll be fine

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[Colk]

NBL take over cricket

I know right. I’ve seen some good takes in my time but this is up there. To suggest a sport that is tucked away on streaming services and rates about 50k nationwide is going to somehow take over the national sport is incredible.

 

[Canard]

There's less than half as many Indians in Australia than Chinese. Britain and China are Australia's two largest sources for immigration.

I said the future landscape will see AwFuL alone in tier 1, followed by cricket and rugby league in tier 2 and NBL in the third tier. This isn't as absurd as you claim. NBL has SE Asia and China to expand into and are currently debating on putting a team in the Philippines. The Philippino media follow Sotto's matches for the 36ers. The few Chinese imports also generate strong interest from the Australian Chinese community. Cricket cannot expand into these communities.

I stand by my comment that cricket is dying. ODIs meant something in the 90s. These days they're not even televised on FTA. Neither are T20is. Test matches not involving England and India aren't a draw in this country. I'd hate to see where the game will be in 30 years if the current trend continues. It took less than 30 years for ODIs to go from being the hottest ticket in town to not even being played on FTA. A few weeks ago we had ODIs in Cairns and Townsville. That's how far the game has fallen.

I went to a Catholic school that had a lot of immigrants from non-Commonwealth countries in the 90s. No one cared about cricket. It was a huge culture shock and opened my eyes to what life would look like in the future. They had Australian accents but didn't even understand the rules to cricket. It is what it is.

You really don't know anything about the NBL. There's plenty of players who have NBA experience. Americans with NBA prospects are now choosing the NBL over Europe. Bullets have experienced NBA players such as Aron Baynes and Tyler Johnson in their squad but lost their first five games. This is a team that also has Olympic bronze medallist Nathan Sobey. Adelaide 36ers beat a full strength Phoenix Suns 134-124 but have only won two of their five NBL games.

Whilst the calibre of player in the NBL and strength of the competition is better then at any time in its history, that doesn't correlate with support or TV ratings.

 

[Iamback]

I know right. I’ve seen some good takes in my time but this is up there. To suggest a sport that is tucked away on streaming services and rates about 50k nationwide is going to somehow take over the national sport is incredible.

I like Basketball, I attend a couple of NBL games a season but it suffers the same fate as the A League. The product overseas is much better

 

[Steel Saints]

The argument against rationalisation from Sydneysiders is fans of the culled/relocated team won't support one of the other teams. If that's true then create one team to represent Sydney so it can draw support from all RL fans. When it becomes a powerhouse like the Broncos add a second team. If that team becomes a powerhouse then add a third team. If that is a huge success then think about adding a fourth team.

Brisbane was saddled with just one team for the best part of 35 years. If it's good enough for Brisbane then it's good enough for Sydney to practice what they preach.

I think Eminem said it best:

"You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
This opportunity comes once in a lifetime"

And that opportunity was during the Super League War to rationalise Sydney clubs. That boat has shipped off 20 odd years ago.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

What I’m saying too it is not plausible.

Is it possible, well anything is possible. We could all get hit by an asteroid tomorrow. I could bed a supermodel or become a billionaire. But those really aren’t predictions or projections that have any real degree of high plausibility because there isn’t a trend. The world hasn’t been hit by a destructive asteroid for millions of years so it is not likely to be tomorrow and the other two aren’t likely to happen either.

There just isn’t a trend with NBL.

For example, you are stating that it will challenge or overtake cricket because of immigration from non commonwealth countries. But we have had high levels of migration from non Commonwealth countries since the 70’s and 80’s. If NBL were going to challenge then you would have already seen a significant trend (you know more than 50k people watching a game) If there is a trend it is so negligible that you can’t really say it is a trend. Anyway, if we’re being serious as a factor and factoring in migration from China, Japan, Vietnam and Phillipines than you would see other sports being benefactors as well, probably more so than basketball.

Also migration from subcontinental countries is increasing not decreasing and their global populations are increasing (India to the point that it will overtake China’s) and if you haven’t noticed they tend to be somewhat interested in that ‘dying’ sport

The second point you simply refuse to address is about why the NBL and A-League fail to rate. It is nothing about the popularity of the sport or participation rates. It is because their competitions are seen as inferior products, pure and simple. You can argue that all you like but the general populace will more likely rattle off a fair few names playing in NBA or EPL before they could settle on one playing in the NBL and A-League. If you don’t believe me, just step back for a minute and consume mainstream media for a day and tell me how many stories or reports from the NBL and A-League and more importantly where they are positioned in that news. You can compare it to cricket as well, if you like, because sports media reporting reflects the interest levels of that sport in the general populace.

Last point, cricket isn’t dying, it is simply changing. ODI cricket is dying I agree and test cricket will probably only be played amongst a few nations but to suggest the game is dying is absurd. You will see less international matches and more leagues - it is essentially evolving to soccer where there is massive popularity in domestic leagues

These audience figures show the game isn’t dying. If your TV numbers are in the hundreds of millions worldwide, I think you’ll be fine

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You're only seeing what you want to see.

I see similarities between RU and cricket. Both have little support at club level and only rate at Test level.

BBL is not a top tier league. There are a few leagues around the world that are of a higher standard. The players themselves admit this. There is no room for it in the calendar, either. It's competing against the Test team for relevancy and losing.

CA tried to lengthen the BBL season, but had to contract it again because crowds nosedived. You laugh at NBL, but at least it plays a full season of 28 games. BBL only has 10 games played over a few weeks during the school holidays because the public doesn't take it seriously. It looks like the initial excitement it drew has worn off. People just aren't interested in anything below Tests in this country.

Yes the NBL is niche, but it's growing and is bringing in more money than any other time in its history.

If you're going to say NBL is f**ked because it's not NBA then I guess BBL is f**ked as it's not IPL.

Does anyone in this country who isn't Indian even care for IPL?

Call me delusional, but I believe cricket is an archaic sport that doesn't fit into today's fast paced world. Kids are stuck on their phones more than ever because it provides countless entertainment options.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

I know right. I’ve seen some good takes in my time but this is up there. To suggest a sport that is tucked away on streaming services and rates about 50k nationwide is going to somehow take over the national sport is incredible.

This is very ignorant and a blatant strawman. I never said it's going to take over. I said it has room to grow while cricket is in decline due to changing demographics in a fast-paced world.

I also said it's available on ESPN and Ch10's Peach, so it's not tucked away on streaming. ESPN is available in more households across the country than Fox League because it's available on more platforms. I can watch ESPN on Fetch for as little as $6 a month. At least two games per week are broadcast free on 10Peach and Kayo Freebies.

 

[Colk]

This is very ignorant and a blatant strawman. I never said it's going to take over. I said it has room to grow while cricket is in decline due to changing demographics in a fast-paced world.

I also said it's available on ESPN and Ch10's Peach, so it's not tucked away on streaming. ESPN is available in more households across the country than Fox League because it's available on more platforms. I can watch ESPN on Fetch for as little as $6 a month. At least two games per week are broadcast free on 10Peach and Kayo Freebies.

It is not a straw man if you actually say it, so if you want to retract then you can

so it could very well become second only to NBA and overtake cricket as our number one summer sport. Cricket is in serious decline and has no where to go with the IPL devaluing the BBL.

The argument that it could grow is a relative one - any sport could grow. The fact that it hasn’t is the main thing. It’s viewership is only 50k. Also, the argument that it is actually on FTA and that is it’s audience is only 50k doesn’t help your argument.

 

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It is not a straw man if you actually say it, so if you want to retract then you can

so it could very well become second only to NBA and overtake cricket as our number one summer sport. Cricket is in serious decline and has no where to go with the IPL devaluing the BBL.

The argument that it could grow is a relative one - any sport could grow. The fact that it hasn’t is the main thing. It’s viewership is only 50k. Also, the argument that it is actually on FTA and that is it’s audience is only 50k doesn’t help your argument.

Key word from my comment being "could". It's not as far-fetched as you think. Test crowds have been stagnant at best and arguably in decline for 40 years. Tests at the Gabba are played in front of empty seats more often than not. We only get one Test a year and it can only fill a quarter of the GABBA. ODIs and T20is don't draw shit, hence the reason Ch7 didn't even bid for them.

You hang shit on the Kings, yet they're playing in front of 11k fans at the Sydney Super Dome these days, which is comparable to Sydney NRL clubs. Wildcats also play in front of 10k fans. There is more support for this league than you want to admit.

The NBL is bigger and more popular today than any other time in its history, refuting your claim it hasn't grown. We just had an NBL club beat a full-strength Phoenix Suns, yet they currently sit third last on the NBL ladder. We have NBA players and prospective NBA players bypassing Europe and NCAA to play in the NBL.