2022 NRL ratings

[baselinepanther]

Reach is the number of unique individual viewers during a broadcast, that number over the course of a day isnt necessarily going to be any bigger than an AFL or NRL game.

Also note that day time television doesnt attract advertisers to the same extent prime time Thurs/Fri/Sat night does.

& its potential unique veiwers & they only way they know that ... potentially .. is the length of the telecast

its BS

 

[The_Wookie]

& its potential unique veiwers & they only way they know that ... potentially .. is the length of the telecast

its BS

if you say so.

 

[The_Wookie]

cricket isn't played at night ?

When you talk about length i assumed you meant Test cricket.

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

it wasn't reach as ive clearly given examples of how that metric is BS

Vlandys was spun a line by foxtel , cupboards are bare pete , they're bare i tells ya

Vlandys to Delany
ok well if cop less then we're worth now to help you out , when they're ( your cupboards ) are full again you'll look after us yea ?
Delany .. yea we will

I wouldn't be closing the book on our last negotiated deal ..... just yet

I wouldn't be surprised if that's how the discussions actually went. Vlandys tried to include a clause in the new deal that NRL would be best paid out of all codes. Obviously that was struck out, so he's [Vlandys] relying on Goodwill.

However, the likelihood of both Vlandys and Fox Management remaining in place to cash in on that goodwill when the next rights are up are very unlikely. Even so, what's to say that the cupboards aren't bare then (because theyve over paid for AFL, and they are no longer viable if they pay the same or more for NRL).

To all the Vlandys supporters, if that situation materialises, and your fallback is that Stan or Paramount would be bidders, why offer up that goodwill to fox initially?

While we won't be running on a shoe string budget until then, it certainly means we can't be as ambitious in the short term and relatively speaking our investment in grassroots and possibly offshore will suffer.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

When you talk about length i assumed you meant Test cricket.

Ch7 only broadcast Tests. Most of them are played during the day. Only the annual day-night Test in Adelaide and the Perth Test have a session each day that's played in prime time in the AEST/AEDT, but the other two are during the day.

 

[Iamback]

5200 people only can collect data. What a farce

 

[Wb1234]

when did you ever give a coherent example of this?

Reach is considered a valid measurement by ratings authorites, its just not considered to be the primary measurement

He showed you already you ignored it

he made some great arguments which you ignored

The ratings data clearly point out rugby league is number one

I wouldn't be surprised if that's how the discussions actually went. Vlandys tried to include a clause in the new deal that NRL would be best paid out of all codes. Obviously that was struck out, so he's [Vlandys] relying on Goodwill.

However, the likelihood of both Vlandys and Fox Management remaining in place to cash in on that goodwill when the next rights are up are very unlikely. Even so, what's to say that the cupboards aren't bare then (because theyve over paid for AFL, and they are no longer viable if they pay the same or more for NRL).

To all the Vlandys supporters, if that situation materialises, and your fallback is that Stan or Paramount would be bidders, why offer up that goodwill to fox initially?

While we won't be running on a shoe string budget until then, it certainly means we can't be as ambitious in the short term and relatively speaking our investment in grassroots and possibly offshore will suffer.

yeh I mean it’s not like the nrl will have added two teams in the space of five years whilst afl still can’t work out how to make the giants or suns work

don’t worry so much for rugby league the game is in excellent shape

 

[docbrown]

Even if the AFL had 30% extra engagement time, a number of the games are overlapping or played simultaneously . With the NRL, each game is in a stand alone timeslot.

In a 20 or even a 22 team comp NRL could play games over a variety of slots including Thursday nights, Fridays at 7:00 pm, Fridays at 9:00pm (NZ home games), Saturdays 2pm, Saturdays 4pm, Saturdays 6pm, Saturdays 8pm, Sundays 2pm, Sundays 4pm, Sunday nights and Monday nights. And not have a single overlapping game.

 

[Wb1234]

In a 20 or even a 22 team comp NRL could play games over a variety of slots including Thursday nights, Fridays at 7:00 pm, Fridays at 9:00pm (NZ home games), Saturdays 2pm, Saturdays 4pm, Saturdays 6pm, Saturdays 8pm, Sundays 2pm, Sundays 4pm, Sunday nights and Monday nights. And not have a single overlapping game.

If they go to 20 teams then conferences will be implemented imo

the ideal is 24 teams with two conference of 12 playing everyone in your own home and away and then a top five finals In each

 

[Colk]

nine were never paying any more & no one in here has said they would , they weren't party to any verbal assurance etc

as for foxtel saying that they're not open to ..... link ?

‘We’re always negotiating’: The NRL approach to media deal-making

NRL chairman Peter V’landys says the code will take advantage of the AFL’s record-breaking media rights deal when it begins bargaining with broadcasters.

www.afr.com

 

[The_Wookie]

He showed you already you ignored it

he made some great arguments which you ignored

The ratings data clearly point out rugby league is number one

yeh I mean it’s not like the nrl will have added two teams in the space of five years whilst afl still can’t work out how to make the giants or suns work

don’t worry so much for rugby league the game is in excellent shape

No he didnt and no I didnt. Cricket is not the argument he thinks it is.

The raw ratings data shows that league is top rating. There is clearly more to it than that when it comes to broadcasters paying for it.

Im not worried about any sport. I am concerned that yours is being run by a buffoon

 

[The_Wookie]

5200 people only can collect data. What a farce

Waitr til you see the other surveys.

 

[Wb1234]

No he didnt and no I didnt. Cricket is not the argument he thinks it is.

The raw ratings data shows that league is top rating. There is clearly more to it than that when it comes to broadcasters paying for it.

Im not worried about any sport. I am concerned that yours is being run by a buffoon

Well just a week ago you said he was a good leader but thanks for the concern

just can you make your mind up either it’s ratings don’t count or it’s vlandys is a buffoon

the two arguments contradict one another

 

[The_Wookie]

Well just a week ago you said he was a good leader but thanks for the concern

just can you make your mind up either it’s ratings don’t count or it’s vlandys is a buffoon

the two arguments contradict one another

Well I can only point to 40 years of broadcast income that makes the ratings either irrelevant or your leaders idiots. Take your pick.

 

[Iamback]

Waitr til you see the other surveys.

It is 2022. Crazy that still using such a prehistoric metric.
Kayo knows what I have watched, Hell even 9 now etc does too. Surely they can use that data as well to get a clearer picture

 

[Wb1234]

Well I can only point to 40 years of broadcast income that makes the ratings either irrelevant or your leaders idiots. Take your pick.

The nrl didn’t normally beat the afl though

it’s only a recent phenomenon

Jeez for someone whose website Specialises in ratings you sure come off sometimes as lacking the facts

lmao

and like I said your two theories contradict one another. If your going to pick a bs theory best to make sure it’s not contradicted by the next sentence

here I will even help you. Afl used to get double the ratings in Sydney and Brisbane

seven even used to show swans game live against Friday night footy and at time the swans would win

that’s why afl used to get better tv dollars. The national competition was delivering higher ratings than league

since around 2018 it’s flipped. Now we can see where all the lost viewers have gone to Kayo its league as the top sport by a long way

now the reality is afls so called national comp has lower ratings than the nrl comp in Australia

 

[The_Wookie]

The nrl didn’t normally beat the afl though

it’s only a recent phenomenon

Reality is the NRL when all ratings including rep, origin, nz and regionals are included has beaten the AFLs ratings for the better part of a decade. Its just that few people outside league circles gave a damn about anything non metro.

Jeez for someone whose website Specialises in ratings you sure come off sometimes as lacking the facts

lmao

As someone whose been tracking ratings data since 2008, I can confidently say you are full of many things that arent facts.

and like I said your two theories contradict one another. If your going to pick a bs theory best to make sure it’s not contradicted by the next sentence

I also said you need to pick one - or do you simply not read the entire post. Either the ratings dont matter, or PVL is an idiot.

here I will even help you. Afl used to get double the ratings in Sydney and Brisbane

seven even used to show swans game live against Friday night footy and at time the swans would win

Ive never seen the Swans beat Rugby league on a Friday night in Sydney ever. That they used to get higher ratings on FTA when Ten/One showed them live in Sydney from 2002-2011 is undeniably true. Those ratings also dropped when Fox began simulcasting all matches, and Seven went to solo FTA broadcasting.

that’s why afl used to get better tv dollars. The national competition was delivering higher ratings than league

That wasnt true under the 2017 deal or its extension in 2020. And probably wasnt true in 2012 either.

since around 2018 it’s flipped. Now we can see where all the lost viewers have gone to Kayo its league as the top sport by a long way

When i first started doing Industry ratings in 2011, the NRL was already ahead when regionals, City/Country, Tests and origin were included, but we rarely got regional data before 2013, and we havent seen NZ data since 2015.

now the reality is afls so called national comp has lower ratings than the nrl comp in Australia

And it doesnt seem to matter to anyone paying for the rights. Now why is that? When you can answer that question properly, we're all on the same page.

 

[Perth Red]

The games run by buffoons is your answer Wookiee lol
not having full metro reach and not having nine games doesn’t help, but again that’s because the game is run by buffoons. We can’t grow the game and we can’t sell the game. Other than that we are in good shape lol.

 

[Steel Saints]

Thats 30% more on viewing hours from the ratings. Timeslot and overlaps matter, but the 30% additional viewing hours come off the ratings.

Timeslot and overlaps DO matter. Hypothetically, if you have a round scheduling of:

Friday 7:30pm (1 game)
Saturday 2pm (7 games at the same time)
Sunday 2pm (1 game)

....then I somehow doubt the Victorian code would get anywhere near $4.5 billion.

 

[The_Wookie]

Timeslot and overlaps DO matter. Hypothetically, if you have a round scheduling of:

Friday 7:30pm (1 game)
Saturday 2pm (7 games at the same time)
Sunday 2pm (1 game)

....then I somehow doubt the Victorian code would get anywhere near $4.5 billion.

I did say that they matter?