2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[Colk]

Sadly News Corp has no interest in Perth, they do Melbourne but not Perth.

If we did what they say we’ll only ever add Brisbane teams i.e. they would even have less interest in another NZ side.

 

[Perth Red]

Sadly News Corp has no interest in Perth, they do Melbourne but not Perth.

f**k news corp. You think they had an interest in Western Sydney or Gold Coast coming in for AFL? The next deal should be about capital cities to drive competitive tendering. I was pretty meh about Adelaide as the game there is so underdeveloped but I've just shot them up the priority list after seeing what AFL has delivered in its tv rights. Our Australian TV deal compared to theirs is pathetic, we have to address that.

 

[Colk]

f**k news corp. You think they had an interest in Western Sydney or Gold Coast coming in for AFL? The next deal should be about capital cities to drive competitive tendering. I was pretty meh about Adelaide as the game there is so underdeveloped but I've just shot them up the priority list after seeing what AFL has delivered in its tv rights. Our Australian TV deal compared to theirs is pathetic, we have to address that.

F*** them indeed. I can’t believe people are still saying we just do what they tell us to do. Have they not just seen their role in our deal and fumbleball’s deal.

 

[Wb1234]

If we did what they say we’ll only ever add Brisbane teams i.e. they would even have less interest in another NZ side.

They don’t own sky nz any more but sky nz sure want another nz side

a Perth nrl team is just an orphan which no tv network wants a bar of lol

 

[Colk]

They don’t own sky nz any more but sky nz sure want another nz side

a Perth nrl team is just an orphan which no tv network wants a bar of lol

NZ are paying (quick maths) 8% of our TV deal. That is not how we are going to make up the difference.

 

[westerntiger]

There isn't even a proper Perth bid at the moment. The Bears thing is a joke, they'll play in Perth for a year before heading back to NSW full time. As for the Giants and Suns, they were artificial franchises created by the AFL, not proper bids.

The TV networks love the Storm because they have a big following in Queensland because of their recent success. I don't have the numbers but I'd guess that the Storm have more fans in Qld than the Titans do.

If the NRL is serious about expansion in the other states they would lobby Nine to show more games on their main channel in those states, instead of 9Gem when they turn it over to Antiques Roadshow before the final whistle goes. I know the old NBN channel used to show every Knights game in Newcastle in the old days for example.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

According to their annual reports they both have a net asset base of $47.1mill. Is the stadium sitting on the books of a totally different company?

Donkey whats the $20mill loan Cowboys have being used for?

The loan was to build a Centre of Excellence.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Regional clubs are worth less to tv

you know that look at the afl deal which you believe is true

they have one regional club the rest are all city teams

Cowboys rate better on TV than most Sydney clubs, especially in the national ratings.

 

[Wb1234]

NZ are paying (quick maths) 8% of our TV deal. That is not how we are going to make up the difference.

No adding a team no broadcaster wants is the way to go !

 

[Wb1234]

Cowboys rate better on TV than most Sydney clubs, especially in the national ratings.

Sydney clubs get shown regularly on channel nine though

nine has very little interest in showing the regional clubs

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Nice revisionist history. Thanks Mr Ribot for your opinion

Which part do you think is "revisionist"?

I can quote the paragraph in Neil Cadigan's 20 Years In The Saddle: North Queensland Cowboys 1995-2014 that speaks directly about the Cowboys needing to cover travel and accommodation costs for teams that travelled to Townsville. It bankrupted the club and forced them to sign with Super League to survive. There's also the biased support that Arthurson, Quayle and the QRL gave towards the Crushers during the bidding phase. The book I just mentioned goes into great detail documenting the Cowboys' formation and troubles they experienced between 1992 and 1997.

 

[Colk]

No adding a team no broadcaster wants is the way to go !

Frankly I don’t think the broadcasters would explicitly want anything other than another Brisbane side or something else where they can get the most bang for the least buck. This didn’t help us the last time with the Dolphins, where we bent over to everything they wanted and we got what?

The biggest problem with another NZ side is that it adds nothing for Australian advertisers.

All of this debate means zilch though if V’Landys and the current administration are still doing the negotiation. We’ll probably do it in the midst of the current deal, when we have no power and get a proverbial pie and a coke in return

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sadly News Corp has no interest in Perth, they do Melbourne but not Perth.

News Corp don't have much of a stake in Perth's print media.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sydney clubs get shown regularly on channel nine though

nine has very little interest in showing the regional clubs

Ch9 broadcast plenty of Cowboys games this year, despite the club finishing 15th in 2021.

 

[Wb1234]

Frankly I don’t think the broadcasters would explicitly want anything other than another Brisbane side or something else where they can get the most bang for the least buck. This didn’t help us the last time with the Dolphins, where we bent over to everything they wanted and we got what?

The biggest problem with another NZ side is that it adds nothing for Australian advertisers.

All of this debate means zilch though if V’Landys and the current administration are still doing the negotiation. We’ll probably do it in the midst of the current deal, when we have no power and get a proverbial pie and a coke in return

Lmao

you know if they add a nz team the game still gets shown here right ?

the renogogtoation for the dolphins was just a start. Once the networks actually get those higher ratings we will get more dollars from tv

 

[Iamback]

Coming from an extremely low base though.

When I first came to Melbourne rugby league results were not even printed in newspapers or mentioned on their "World" of sport shows. Today everyone knows the Storm you see merchandise everywhere and rugby league has a presence.

Never did I think Melbourne would ever have a team such was the sporting bigotry down here.

What happens when Bellamy retires after next year?

Plenty of concerning areas of Melbourne now

 

[Colk]

Lmao

you know if they add a nz team the game still gets shown here right ?

the renogogtoation for the dolphins was just a start. Once the networks actually get those higher ratings we will get more dollars from tv

But do advertisers see value in another NZ side? That’s the big thing

The re-negotiation for the Dolphins was a joke. Do you seriously want V’Landys to be re-negotiating a contract with Pay/Nine. If we add another side in the midst of this contract it would be the dumbest thing ever. They will give us a ridiculously small increase because the contract can’t be broken - simple power dynamic.

 

[tri_colours]

Another bidder - Paramount or some other streaming company will be a major driver of our rights - In a deal that will take place long before 2031.

 

[Colk]

Another bidder - Paramount or some other streaming company will be a major driver of our rights - a deal that will take place long before 2031.

I’d like to think so considering our deal will finish in 2028. My concern is V’Landys will rush in a new side or give even more concessions over Foxtel in order to chase more dollars ASAP to cover up their monumental stuff up.

 

[westerntiger]

When they bring in 18th team what time slot will the extra game be? Will Sunday 6pm become permanent or will Monday make a return?