2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

Discussion in 'NRL Media Watch' started by Perth Red, Nov 27, 2019.

  1. Phil McGrawhan

    Phil McGrawhan Coach

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2005
    Messages:
    14,780
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Mate anyone with an IQ above that of a house plant understands .
    Sadly there's some on here who are clueless to the reality of the world today compared to six months ago .
     
    taipan likes this.
  2. tri_colours

    tri_colours Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2017
    Messages:
    588
    Likes Received:
    218
    That Marcks is a smug bastard

    Surely one of the other FTA channels will outbid this Twat. the 3 best club games each week, the finals matches (already owns the steaming for these), exclusive rights to the GF and Origin, tests and a new Brisbane team coming to boost his ratings even further. This Moron doesn't know when he's on a good thing. The guys a joke - a very sick one!...;.Please f**k of 9 or get rid of marcks
     
  3. Cactus

    Cactus Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    545
    Likes Received:
    504
    If its good enough that 9 want to dictate who gets fired in NRL management then its good enough for next time around the NRL diplomatically tell 9 to sideline Marks from the next negotiations.

    Then when we choose 10 or other media company, Marks gets the chop, hopefully to become a fan cardboard cutout sitting facing the wrong way right next to the stadium toilet block.
     
    Chief_Chujo and tri_colours like this.
  4. Vee

    Vee Bench

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2017
    Messages:
    3,339
    Likes Received:
    1,271
    Yeah, good luck with that. Let me know how you go.
     
  5. Cactus

    Cactus Juniors

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2018
    Messages:
    545
    Likes Received:
    504
    OK. Will see if I can have his "dont come monday" papers leaked to rothfield or weirdler
     
  6. Johnny88

    Johnny88 Juniors

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2015
    Messages:
    1,106
    Likes Received:
    223
    AFL to resist push for rights deal cut after Nine, Foxtel get NRL discount

    AFL boss Gillon McLachlan is expected to drive a harder bargain with the code's commercial broadcasters Seven West Media and Foxtel after its rival the NRL accepted a discount in its television rights extension last week.

    The Kerry Stokes-controlled Seven, which has been in discussions with the AFL about two-year extension on its existing deal, is looking to secure a similar reduction in costs to what Nine (owner of this masthead) received under its revised NRL contract. Pay TV operator Foxtel, which extended its contract with the NRL by five years, is also looking at a two to three year extension for the AFL.
    But both media companies are expecting pushback from the AFL which believes NRL executive chairman Peter V'landys could have extracted more money from Nine and Foxtel. Media industry sources familiar with the AFL's thinking said its key executives believe the NRL could have driven a harder bargain.
    The terms of Foxtel's deal with the NRL have not been disclosed. But Foxtel did decide to not make its digital rights available on mobile beyond 2022, meaning the sport may no longer be available on Telstra's Live Pass. Foxtel is part owned by Telstra and Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation.

    "We are... disappointed to learn the NRL through their agreement with Foxtel has decided not to make those digital rights on mobile available beyond 2022," a Telstra spokesman said. "We have not been a party to those discussions and will obviously need to engage with the NRL to understand what the implications are for our partnership in the long term."


    The NRL and its broadcasters have tried to limit the amount of information about their new deal to keep the AFL and Seven in the dark. The AFL's existing $2.5 billion deal also expires in 2022. Foxtel is contributing $1.3 billion of the total, while Seven West Media's contribution is $840 million in cash plus $60 million in contra.

    The AFL's return will boost Seven's ratings and strengthen Foxtel's subscriber proposition. But both media companies believe the games have lost value, in part, due to the absence of crowds and reduced lengths of games. For television broadcasters sport can be seen as a way to reach mass audiences, which attracts advertisers. But in recent years media executives have publicly disputed the amount they pay for sport, arguing it is a loss-making exercise as the production costs that they incur in addition to the fees they pay are not made up for in advertising dollars.

    Media companies like Foxtel and Seven, which were already challenged before the coronavirus pandemic, are under increased financial pressure due to significant reductions in advertising spending caused by factors relating to the crisis.

    Advertisement
    Morningstar analyst Brian Han in April said that Seven's balance sheet had been compromised by the coronavirus to the extent that it was "incorporating the probability of there being zero value in the equity". The company has since sold its magazine business for $40 million, property in Western Australia, and is also looking to sell off assets includingparts of its Seven Studios business.

    Foxtel has cut almost 300 jobs in the last few months due to coronavirus related factorsand has already spent large amounts of money onsecuring a multi-year deal with HBO, worth between $100 million and $200 million annually,the launch of entertainment service Bingeand the NRL extension.

    But the suspension of sport has also put pressure on codes like the AFL, whichhas had to reduce staff numbers and recently secured new credit facilities with its banks. Unlike third tier sports such as the rugby union or motorsports, the AFL deal is a way to shore up subscriber numbers and advertiser interest.

    "You can't play around the edges on the AFL and the NRL", one industry expert said.

    The competition restarts on June 11, but sources said there is no immediate rush on Foxtel's end to lock in a revised deal, given paid the second instalment in advance. Seven, Foxtel and the AFL declined to comment.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/afl-to-resist-push-for-rights-deal-cut-after-nine-foxtel-get-nrl-discount-20200531-p54y4c.html
     
  7. LeagueXIII

    LeagueXIII First Grade

    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2003
    Messages:
    5,317
    Likes Received:
    1,266
    Maybe Fox should send their man Pete to take charge of the AFL to get what they want.
     
  8. Steel Saints

    Steel Saints Juniors

    Joined:
    May 27, 2020
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    89
    It will be interesting to see how Seven and Fox negotiate with the AFL. Seven and Fox are not in strong financial positions themselves. Plus this year, the AFL has reduced to 17 rounds from 22, and reduced quarters to 16 minutes, a 20% reduction in game time.

    The AFL will cop a haircut this year. However will they also get a haircut in 21 and 22?
     
  9. Perth Red

    Perth Red Immortal

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    40,710
    Likes Received:
    7,442
    Well given we are hiding how much we have caved in on the deal it’s going to be hard to see what the comparison is for a couple of years. By then Vlandys will likely be gone and when the bad news comes out he’ll miss the flak. Interesting I can’t remember reading one article saying NRL was playing hard ball!
     
  10. Nerd

    Nerd Bench

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2008
    Messages:
    2,537
    Likes Received:
    974
    I don't think the AFL have a choice. 7 and Fox now know they both paid overs for a sport which is out ranked on both free to air and on Fox by the NRL. 7 without a major reduction in rights may not be around to see out their deal especially considering the way they are selling off assets at the moment. All the talk that the expansion teams and the extra games helps bring in extra value for the broadcasters has now been shown to be all hot air. Games featuring the Lions, Suns and GWS are ratings disasters especially when they play each other. If Fox and 7 want to survive, heavy reductions in line with the AFL's standing as the no 2 football code are required.
     
  11. Steel Saints

    Steel Saints Juniors

    Joined:
    May 27, 2020
    Messages:
    83
    Likes Received:
    89
    The AFL can play hard ball all they like, but if the economics isn't there from both Seven and Fox,, then they will cop similar treatment in terms of discounts.

    The $2.5 billion deal was a massive jump from the previous $1.25b. They got that massive increase because Rupert was pissed off with the NRL.

    Now in the present, we are in a pandemic. Advertising revenue will be low. How could a $2.5 b deal still be sustainable?
     
    Nerd and taipan like this.
  12. Phil McGrawhan

    Phil McGrawhan Coach

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2005
    Messages:
    14,780
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Same shit over & over .
    It says in the article that it is not disclosed to keep the afl in the dark .
    But you ignore that & go on your endless loop of antI PVL rants
     
    Diesel and taipan like this.
  13. Perth Red

    Perth Red Immortal

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    40,710
    Likes Received:
    7,442
    comveniant Lol. So we haven’t disclosed the Ch9 deal to keep afl in the dark? Yeh right.

    I wonder if Vlandys accepted a Reduced deal for Nsw racing being screened by sky on foxtel? No mention of it anywhere.
     
  14. T to the T

    T to the T Juniors

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2006
    Messages:
    436
    Likes Received:
    73
    https://www.afr.com/companies/media...eague-for-nrl-nine-and-foxtel-20200529-p54xra
     
  15. taipan

    taipan Referee

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    21,751
    Likes Received:
    6,729
    Ironic the AFL honchos have in fact been praising Peter getting the game up and running, making it more attractive to watch,getti g Govts on side.
    And horror of horrors the Offsider's gave him a rap, except Aly who carried on as though he knew the NRL TV deal.

    But Fox's prior man Greenberg who was loved by everyone, was quite happy to let things roll along as per usual, while crowds were struggling ,TV ratings down, and grassroots needing a boost and clubs being ignored at times.Yet someone gets a nice diamond ring.
     
    colly likes this.
  16. taipan

    taipan Referee

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2004
    Messages:
    21,751
    Likes Received:
    6,729
    So you believe that knowing the value wouldn't assist the AFL LOL.

    V'Landys got a far better deal than the AFL from the betting agencies.,but of course the AFL is always on teh ball,according to you.

    I don't believe V'Landys needs to consult you before making any decision.
     
  17. Phil McGrawhan

    Phil McGrawhan Coach

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2005
    Messages:
    14,780
    Likes Received:
    2,606
    Even if the AFl get a haircut similar to th NRl ....you can Guarantee one thing .
    This whiney bitch from Perth will continue to bitch & moan .
    Doesn't matter what happens he will be ranting .
     
  18. franklin2323

    franklin2323 Referee

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    29,535
    Likes Received:
    7,092
    So ch9 won’t report it too their shareholders?
     
    taipan likes this.
  19. Perth Red

    Perth Red Immortal

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2006
    Messages:
    40,710
    Likes Received:
    7,442
    Not necessarily, if its classed as commercially confidential they dont have to report the exact figure of what they have paid. It will be hidden away in the financials in an expenditure line item with other things in all likelihood.
     
  20. franklin2323

    franklin2323 Referee

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    29,535
    Likes Received:
    7,092
    That won’t help the share price
    Makes sense now as to just get the game going. Sort out funding to clubs etc then can be an off season discussion when we see where other clubs sit
     

Share This Page