2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[ayatollah_murdoch]

Well if that’s what you want to believe sure you go right ahead

but if it doesn’t compete with existing time slots then no it wouldn’t make sense for them to have that

the arlc got rid of first and last refusal rights ages ago

and you were talking about a non compete clause now your saying first right of refusal

make your mind up lmao

Fair point on non compete vs. right of first refusal. I get where you're coming from now. My bad.

My view was if there would be a clause in the contract saying that if the NRL created any new product, they couldn't tender that out to new parties. Even AFL with NAB cup or AFLX was not tendered out, just shown on Fox. Ditto with Nines.

 

[Wb1234]

Fair point on non compete vs. right of first refusal. I get where you're coming from now. My bad.

My view was if there would be a clause in the contract saying that if the NRL created any new product, they couldn't tender that out to new parties. Even AFL with NAB cup or AFLX was not tendered out, just shown on Fox. Ditto with Nines.

Realistically even if they could they aren’t going too anyway

as others have pointed out I’m worried he uses all these things now to get an increase from the existing rights holders and they extend the deals without going to market

it’s a toss up between getting new deals from nine and fox starting in 2025 and extending five years, or staying on our lower deal for a few more years and going to market.


if they do get offered say 500 million pa from nine and fox in 2025 for five years I feel they will take it

with a ninth game, internationals, expanded nrl w, pre season comp and maybe Monday night football they should be getting 100 million more (can’t see sky nz offering much more then now since nz2 isn’t looking like happening)

 

[Steel Saints]

Realistically even if they could they aren’t going too anyway

as others have pointed out I’m worried he uses all these things now to get an increase from the existing rights holders and they extend the deals without going to market

it’s a toss up between getting new deals from nine and fox starting in 2025 and extending five years, or staying on our lower deal for a few more years and going to market.


if they do get offered say 500 million pa from nine and fox in 2025 for five years I feel they will take it

with a ninth game, internationals, expanded nrl w, pre season comp and maybe Monday night football they should be getting 100 million more (can’t see sky nz offering much more then now since nz2 isn’t looking like happening)

I'd prefer the NRL to be on a lower deal for a few years and go to the market, rather than extending with Fox/ Nine.

Also you don’t want the game to be affected on the field either. Dolphins coming in next year and Perth? in 2028 is good succession planning and you avoid diluting the talent.

 

[Wb1234]

I'd prefer the NRL to be on a lower deal for a few years and go to the market, rather than extending with Fox/ Nine.

Also you don’t want the game to be affected on the field either. Dolphins coming in next year and Perth? in 2028 is good succession planning and you avoid diluting the talent.

Your not wrong but I think 2025 or 26 is team 18s entry

 

[Perth Red]

I'd prefer the NRL to be on a lower deal for a few years and go to the market, rather than extending with Fox/ Nine.

Also you don’t want the game to be affected on the field either. Dolphins coming in next year and Perth? in 2028 is good succession planning and you avoid diluting the talent.

If they can get nine or fox to stump up serious cash for the ninth game and decide to extend I can see perth coming in for 2027 at earliest. We'll need 2 years to be ready min. Ideally 3-4 so we can build in NSW cup for a couple of years first.
Personally Id rather we wait, announce perth as club 18 in 2025 to enter in 2028. Go to open market in 2026 for the 2028- contract and get max $'s.
We need to take the Vlandys f**k up on the chin now and just live with it. Worse thing we could do would be to accept $30-40mill more from say 2026 and extend until 2031. We are currently at least $100mill behind what we should be valued at thanks to pistol pete.

 

[Steel Saints]

If they can get nine or fox to stump up serious cash for the ninth game and decide to extend I can see perth coming in for 2027 at earliest. We'll need 2 years to be ready min. Ideally 3-4 so we can build in NSW cup for a couple of years first.
Personally Id rather we wait, announce perth as club 18 in 2025 to enter in 2028. Go to open market in 2026 for the 2028- contract and get max $'s.
We need to take the Vlandys f**k up on the chin now and just live with it. Worse thing we could do would be to accept $30-40mill more from say 2026 and extend until 2031. We are currently at least $100mill behind what we should be valued at thanks to pistol pete.

Highly unlikely the NRL would accept just $30 or $40 million more and extend until 2031.

 

[Perth Red]

Highly unlikely the NRL would accept just $30 or $40 million more and extend until 2031.

normally Id agree, but with pistol pete running the show anything's possible! This is a guy that gave Fox a deal worth $20mill a year less than the last one against the advice of his CEO and COO!

 

[Steel Saints]

normally Id agree, but with pistol pete running the show anything's possible! This is a guy that gave Fox a deal worth $20mill a year less than the last one against the advice of his CEO and COO!

But last time, there was the added pressure of getting the game back on the field.

 

[baselinepanther]

normally Id agree, but with pistol pete running the show anything's possible! This is a guy that gave Fox a deal worth $20mill a year less than the last one against the advice of his CEO and COO!

shouldn't you be polishing turds in the RLWC threads ?

 

[Perth Red]

shouldn't you be polishing turds in the RLWC threads ?

It’s almost like you’re trying to derail this thread

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

It’s almost like you’re trying to derail this thread

He learnt off the best..
YOU

 

[baselinepanther]

It’s almost like you’re trying to derail this thread

almost like you're nothing but a negative whining wanker

hang on
theres nothing ... almost .. about that eh

 

[baselinepanther]

can we pwwweeeeaaasse stop derailing my whining

 

[Perth Red]

Its almost like your both now trying to derail the thread.

 

[baselinepanther]

Its almost like your both now trying to derail the thread.

more whining ?
I'm gobsmacked ....

 

[Perth Red]

Derailing threads with personal attacks, I’m not it’s on par for you

 

[ayatollah_murdoch]

Nine to clinch Australian Open tennis deal for $500m

The media company is about to lock in the rights to the Australian Open for another five years and is battling for the cricket against rival broadcasters.

www.smh.com.au

Tennis Australia and Cricket in line for big boosts. Healthy market at the moment for tv rights. Too bad we have to wait until 2028 for anything to materialise

 

[The Penguin #6.]

Even the clubs don`t know the details. Ming boggling.

Given that broadcasting revenue historically represents about two-thirds of the income to the central administration and, with a stalemate reached in negotiations, both stakeholders are demanding more detail around the seven-year pay-TV deal ARLC chair Peter V’landys negotiated with Foxtel during the Covid pandemic.

It’s what could be called an “undisclosed asset” in the negotiations. V’landys has always maintained the secrecy around the Foxtel deal becomes irrelevant when the clubs and players will receive record deals and add to it when the NRL goes back to broadcasters for the 2028 contract.


Seems like V`landy`s & co. are getting plenty of grief over the fumbleball broadcast deal as well.

Who’ll get what in rugby league’s divorce court hearings

CBA negotiations between the NRL, clubs and RLPA have hit an impasse, with clubs forced to guess at the size of the salary cap for 2023. How will the pie end up being split?

www.smh.com.au

 

[Colk]

Even the clubs don`t know the details. Ming boggling.

Given that broadcasting revenue historically represents about two-thirds of the income to the central administration and, with a stalemate reached in negotiations, both stakeholders are demanding more detail around the seven-year pay-TV deal ARLC chair Peter V’landys negotiated with Foxtel during the Covid pandemic.

It’s what could be called an “undisclosed asset” in the negotiations. V’landys has always maintained the secrecy around the Foxtel deal becomes irrelevant when the clubs and players will receive record deals and add to it when the NRL goes back to broadcasters for the 2028 contract.


Seems like V`landy`s & co. are getting plenty of grief over the fumbleball broadcast deal as well.

Who’ll get what in rugby league’s divorce court hearings

CBA negotiations between the NRL, clubs and RLPA have hit an impasse, with clubs forced to guess at the size of the salary cap for 2023. How will the pie end up being split?

www.smh.com.au

It was always going to happen. As soon as the fumbleball deal was announced then the pressure was always going to go on to V’Landys and Abdo.

 

[The Penguin #6.]

It was always going to happen. As soon as the fumbleball deal was announced then the pressure was always going to go on to V’Landys and Abdo.

From the same article.

" NRL chief executive Andrew Abdo points out that almost all sporting administrations have operating expenses in the 40 percent range, compared to the NRL’s 25 percent. He says the planned level of expenditure over the next five years locks his administration into being the leanest of all the codes.
Furthermore, as it was in 2019, a sizeable proportion of the administration’s expenses are what is called “cost of goods sold” - that is, the expenses involved in delivering revenue. As revenue grows, so does the cost of growing it.

The distributable revenue in the last year of the old NRL administration was $504.1m, meaning Abdo’s office has grown revenue by $70m with decreased expenditure. But this has not placated his opponents."

Seems Abdo has been pulling his weight.