2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[Perth Red]

So the AFL are certain of the financial position of Fox in this country ,a few years down the line so they hold off a deal?
Apparently ignoring the fact Pay for view is losing money and has had money tipped in by Rupert & Co.

Ch9 are unsure ,the Govts and businesses seem to know the next few years are going to be tough, with mounting debt and continuing high unemployment.
The AFL and the NRL have each negotiated deals with different mediums, ensuring at least monetary certainty in part.

Depends on the numbers and if AFL have a different pay for view strategy moving forward. Given they managed to get a cracking deal from Seven (only a 2.5% reduction over 5 years) I suspect they wanted the same from Fox, and Fox having screwed NRL for a much greater reduction already, wanted cheaper so AFL has walked away for now. By the time the NRL's 7 years with Fox is up satellite will be dead and everything will be streaming. What future streaming deals look like, if multiple streaming providers have different games, if sports bodies will produce and stream direct themselves etc are all interesting business considerations.

I do wonder if Greenberg had got wind that Seven were willing to give AFL a 5 year deal at only $4mil a year less and was using that to hold Ch9 to account, hence why they went on the attack and got rid of him?

 

[LeagueXIII]

I think the AFL are confident in their game they know it's value, and so they should be, people are very passionate about it.

They know TV needs live sport to drive it. It's more a case of Fox losing subscriptions then the AFL caving under.

The AFL will do what is right for the sport and their partners but they won't be rushed just to please Murdoch like we were.

 

[taipan]

Depends on the numbers and if AFL have a different pay for view strategy moving forward. Given they managed to get a cracking deal from Seven (only a 2.5% reduction over 5 years) I suspect they wanted the same from Fox, and Fox having screwed NRL for a much greater reduction already, wanted cheaper so AFL has walked away for now. By the time the NRL's 7 years with Fox is up satellite will be dead and everything will be streaming. What future streaming deals look like, if multiple streaming providers have different games, if sports bodies will produce and stream direct themselves etc are all interesting business considerations.

I do wonder if Greenberg had got wind that Seven were willing to give AFL a 5 year deal at only $4mil a year less and was using that to hold Ch9 to account, hence why they went on the attack and got rid of him?

We can be certain ,that the economy willtake quite some time to pay back the huge debt accumulated.
We can be certain that both the AFL and the NRL have negotiated forward to gain some certainty.
We can be certain as an analogy,the ARU don't have certainty because ATM there is no deal.Certainty gives a code a base on which to at least cover financial aspects such as admin and player costs.

We can be certain ch9 were feeling the pinch ,because of what happened earlier this year.Their NRL TV ratings were not holding up either, because partly due to their crap commentary team and the staleness that has permeated that channel.ch7 are far better at promoting sport and do so with the AFL.Maybe they were more desperate to retain the AFL.

The NRL have not only that comp available for FTA from 2023,but the SOO series, the latter at least ch7 has shown decent interest.Perhaps 9 is concerned about the ratings, or because they are uncertain of what lies ahead,or because the NRL are looking to create competitive tension, not available on Pay for view.

We don't know what the full actual cash reduction is for the AFL ,and that mob is pretending to know what the NRL had in cuts and V'Landys is keeping them guessing which any competitor for the time being should do.I repeat financial accounts will eventually throw the figures out.
We do know the AFL has had to chew into their Bank loan, the NRL did not.

Have a geek with what is happening around the world with COVID, it's increasing in many countries ,including your old place and where my bro lives in France.And you're being optimistic for the next 7 years.I walk down the shopping street in Cronulla, and there are empty shops all over the place.

Who can predict what will happen in 7 years, but the days of high paying deals from media etc are over and that is according to various outlets.At least the NRL knows from Fox X amount will be forthcoming within that time frame.And the reduced amount from 9 til 2023,which is none of the AFL's business anyway.

Do you also understand that unless this country gets a vaccine early new year, the NRL will have to continue with the costly bubble routine.
The cost for the NRL to have an accommodate the Storm on the Sunshine Coast about $4m.the Warriors at Tamworth and CC $5m.
To assume sports have the upper hand in times like these, does not ,shown with examples everywhere.In the U.S Tv ratings for basketball are down.You can play hard to get, in boom times, but these times are over for quite some time.Yet it doesn't seem tossing in to your blinkered views.

 

[Perth Red]

Well they arent really over are they? Afl just signed one in middle of a pandemic when you’ve been telling us it was impossible and we should expect a massive cut! $146mill a year for 5 years. Let’s see what Vlandys has got.

 

[Chief_Chujo]

So a FTA 3 Year extension at $146mil pa is Amazing.

But a PTV 5yr extension at $200mil pa is Bad?

Why?

 

[Perth Red]

So a FTA 3 Year extension at $146mil pa is Amazing.

But a PTV 5yr extension at $200mil pa is Bad?

Why?

A) we dont know it’s $200mill
B) we don't know whats included in the deal

if it really is $200mill, which would be a big increase on the last deal which sounds pretty unrealistic based on what taipan keeps telling us, then it’s great. If it’s $1bill over 7 years and includes Saturday night and simucast and exclusive streaming it’s not a great deal. We just don’t know yet.

 

[taipan]

Well they arent really over are they? Afl just signed one in middle of a pandemic when you’ve been telling us it was impossible and we should expect a massive cut! $146mill a year for 5 years. Let’s see what Vlandys has got.

I apparently stated it was"impossible" really ,show me.There's a difference between for example a slim chance ,tough under current circumstances, unlikely, and bearing in mind they still had to take a cut for the current FTA and Pay deals.Remembering of course you thrusting your chest forward ,pretending the AFL would probably have to take little cut.
Did they get an increase FMD? Of course not.
If V'Landys hadn't got the game up there'd be stuff all money coming from 9 and Fox, that is fact.

And still not accepting the fact your AFL mob had to use part of their Bank loan, the NRL did not use loans.Gil admitted they expected to lose $1bn all up if the game shut down.They followed the NRL two weeks later.

The biggest code following the 2nd biggest.Was your mate Gil & Co a little timid on setting up virus protocols ,or even know how to? Oh lookee V'Landys has got going, we'd look silly if we didn't get off our rear ends wouldn't we.
He (AFL)was saved by Qld and their Govt, he admitted the fact.

You living in a cave? I have been stating all along the NRL would have to take a cut because we don't have the upper hand ,and we have to work in with the TV stations.I also stated the AFL would have to do likewise.You've got the Darren Britts because Petey won't tell you how much the NRL cuts and deals are LOLYou demand to be told.

All you could bang on about ,the NRL somehow should have got more in the 2018-2022 cut and the Pay Tv deal was too far ahead.Read your past comments and your PVL hate dribble ,that permeates these threads.Money for better Tv deals just magically appearing in a pandemic and economic lockdown sheesh.

Ever thought they(AFL) wanted some sort of financial certainty or you do still believe living on a wing and a prayer for the future is your answer.On that you couldn't plan a kid's future birthday party, if you didn't have something set in stone.

To assume that the economic influences now /this year didn't impact, is plain delusion.

I tell you what V'Lands has got ,guts to go ahead despite AFL knockers, media knockers and the usual anti RL haters and get the game up and running when he and his team did and save it from a financial wipeout .A catastrophic wipeout of the season and the huge losses sustained, would have just about smashed even the slightest chance of a Perth team coming back.

The only thing you have to offer in your armory ,is an encyclopaedia of bitter whining criticism.No solutions.
There is nothing wrong with genuine criticism but blind hate engendered criticism is utter BS.

Then you shoot yourself in the foot, one minute bagging V'Landys after a short stint, the next let's see what V'Landys has got. I cannot take you seriously ,with apologies to John McEnroe.

Anyone who compares the current crises to 2008as you did, is smoking the funny stuff, or sniffing the lines(not the lines of communication).

 

[Perth Red]

I apparently stated it was"impossible" really ,show me.There's a difference between for example a slim chance ,tough under current circumstances, unlikely, and bearing in mind they still had to take a cut for the current FTA and Pay deals.Remembering of course you thrusting your chest forward ,pretending the AFL would probably have to take little cut.
Did they get an increase FMD? Of course not.
If V'Landys hadn't got the game up there'd be stuff all money coming from 9 and Fox, that is fact.

And still not accepting the fact your AFL mob had to use part of their Bank loan, the NRL did not use loans.Gil admitted they expected to lose $1bn all up if the game shut down.They followed the NRL two weeks later.

The biggest code following the 2nd biggest.Was your mate Gil & Co a little timid on setting up virus protocols ,or even know how to? Oh lookee V'Landys has got going, we'd look silly if we didn't get off our rear ends wouldn't we.
He (AFL)was saved by Qld and their Govt, he admitted the fact.

You living in a cave? I have been stating all along the NRL would have to take a cut because we don't have the upper hand ,and we have to work in with the TV stations.I also stated the AFL would have to do likewise.You've got the Darren Britts because Petey won't tell you how much the NRL cuts and deals are LOLYou demand to be told.

All you could bang on about ,the NRL somehow should have got more in the 2018-2022 cut and the Pay Tv deal was too far ahead.Read your past comments and your PVL hate dribble ,that permeates these threads.Money for better Tv deals just magically appearing in a pandemic and economic lockdown sheesh.

Ever thought they(AFL) wanted some sort of financial certainty or you do still believe living on a wing and a prayer for the future is your answer.On that you couldn't plan a kid's future birthday party, if you didn't have something set in stone.

To assume that the economic influences now /this year didn't impact, is plain delusion.

I tell you what V'Lands has got ,guts to go ahead despite AFL knockers, media knockers and the usual anti RL haters and get the game up and running when he and his team did and save it from a financial wipeout .A catastrophic wipeout of the season and the huge losses sustained, would have just about smashed even the slightest chance of a Perth team coming back.

The only thing you have to offer in your armory ,is an encyclopaedia of bitter whining criticism.No solutions.
There is nothing wrong with genuine criticism but blind hate engendered criticism is utter BS.

Then you shoot yourself in the foot, one minute bagging V'Landys after a short stint, the next let's see what V'Landys has got. I cannot take you seriously ,with apologies to John McEnroe.

Anyone who compares the current crises to 2008as you did, is smoking the funny stuff, or sniffing the lines(not the lines of communication).

Thats a cracking backtrack on so many posts where you've called me out for saying the NRL shouldnt have taken a significantly lower deal lol. Do you really want me to go back and quote all of them back to you?

What we now know is AFL got a FTA deal roughly 2.5% less than the last one. Lets see whats Vlandys delivered for us.

 

[taipan]

Thats a cracking backtrack on so many posts where you've called me out for saying the NRL shouldnt have taken a significantly lower deal lol. Do you really want me to go back and quote all of them back to you?

What we now know is AFL got a FTA deal roughly 2.5% less than the last one. Lets see whats Vlandys delivered for us.

Absolute tosh.A good get out clause.
None of my views have changed.And I'll continue to call you out, because regardless of what the NRL TV deal is, you always come in with the could have done better.You're sitting in a room kms away and you are in on the deals LOL.Using the ch9 deal then Foxtel and expecting Fox to pay up ,is a classic.There may be some dumbos in the Tv industry, but they "ain't " that dumb.

1)I have never stated it's impossible for anything .I'm not Luigi the Magnificent.
2) I have consistently stated the pandemic, is what it is and certainly worse than 08, which it is has been acknowledged by many money pundits and medical experts.
3) I have always stated having a contract in times like these gives some degree pop certainty,compared to not having one eg the Foxtel deal for 7 years.
4) I bag people if I believe they have not performed at or near the end of their contracts, not at the beginning, something you could learn.
5) I don't spend my life whining at NRL decisions,nor have an inbred hatred of CEOs or Chairmen who have not lived up top expectations.I make my view known,if they IMO have stuffed up.You have PVL derangement syndrome, and it still carries on.
6) For someone who pretends to love rl ,you do a bad impersonation at times.
7) I still maintain my view on the last Tv deal, with 9 set up first.Despite establishing initially the Board 's early approval,but then that CEO ignoring the advice of their consultant and having a lonely press conference.
8) The times I've questioned deals when News owned half the game, and Gallop bragged about $500m over 6 years ,and then AFL gets $780m over 5 years.That was embarrassing.

A nice deflection, if I ever saw one.You're the one who used the description"impossible",not me.
Whatever the AFL your mob got, they took a cut fact, indicating times are tough.They had no cuts in the GFC 08 period. They needed a loan, we didn't thankfully.If they had no cut ,you could bag me.They still needed to cut as 7 are in decent financial debt.

You laughed at me, when I stated this is worse than 08 and compared it to the 1930s overall.Have a look at the numbers ,which are still climbing overseas and the debts.

You're still saying let's wait for the final figures which is obvious, then stop looking like a chump and bagging PVL before any figures are published, and bear in mind when figures are published you also are comparing 18 teams v 16 teams(including 1 from NZ).

And acknowledge the fact which you have no gonads to do so,PVL a & Co got the game up and running at the time ,when your AFL mates said it was wrong.You just can't do it ,through the hate barrier you have set up.

 

[Perth Red]

So in effect we have financially dropped for the 4 years 2023-2026 the difference between our current $360m pa down to $305m pa = $55m pa
or 15.2% of the current annual deal.

In view of the economy and particularly Tv industry poor situation,I thought it would be at least 25-30% drop.$55m drop would be well within the H/O cost reductions Vlad the Impaler is looking at.

.

I mean come on, you were happy with a 15% drop for us whilst AFL has managed just a 2.5% drop, at least on its FTA component! And thought it would be 25-30% lol.

Back flipping better then DCE here mate

 

[colly]

Thats a cracking backtrack on so many posts where you've called me out for saying the NRL shouldnt have taken a significantly lower deal lol. Do you really want me to go back and quote all of them back to you?

What we now know is AFL got a FTA deal roughly 2.5% less than the last one. Lets see whats Vlandys delivered for us.

Your fantasizing again Perth red. You haven't clue about the media deals.
Points from a AFR story-


The AFL has agreed to a roughly 13 per cent discount of its rights fee of $415 million per season under the current agreement which was set to end at the end of the 2022. That means the sport will take just under a $54 million per year discount on its broadcast rights fees or a little over $160 million until the end of 2022.



https://www.afr.com/companies/media...tel-lock-in-revised-afl-deals-20200611-p551t7
Seven and Foxtel lock in revised AFL deals

Max MasonMedia and marketing editor
Jun 11, 2020 – 8.05pm

Seven West Media and Foxtel have sealed revised broadcast agreements for the AFL, reducing the value of the current deal by nearly $54 million per season to the end of 2022, less than a hour before the return of Aussie rules with Collingwood v Richmond.

It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on AFL rights fees over the next three years, while Foxtel will save around $90 million. Seven has also secured a two-year extension, foreshadowed by The Australian Financial Review in February, under improved terms.

The AFL has agreed to a roughly 13 per cent discount of its rights fee of $415 million per season under the current agreement which was set to end at the end of the 2022. That means the sport will take just under a $54 million per year discount on its broadcast rights fees or a little over $160 million until the end of 2022.

The remainder of the current free-to-air deal plus a two year extension with Seven is worth around $730 million to the AFL out until the end of 2024 season. Foxtel has not signed an extension at this stage after signing a five-year extension with the NRL two weeks ago.
https://www.afr.com/companies/media...tel-lock-in-revised-afl-deals-20200611-p551t7

"It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on AFL rights fees over the next three years " That's $23.3 million per year Seven is saving on their current deal.
The two year extension properly wont matter as Seven is close to bankruptcy by 2022, as the clock tick's on 500 million dollarr debt. With another loss (3 years ) running my prediction is lickley to come true."

 

[taipan]

I mean come on, you were happy with a 15% drop for us whilst AFL has managed just a 2.5% drop, at least on its FTA component! And thought it would be 25-30% lol.

Back flipping better then DCE here mate

I'm happy were have a code that I can watch .I'm happy I have a code, that is assured of income for the next 7 years by one partner.That 16 clubs, the code's employees and it's fans and sponsors have a code to follow in the top echelon.
I'm also happy we didn't have to use any of the money on offer from Bankers.

You're happy to make predictions of where the world and this country's economy will be in 7 years, as you are quite happy to wait and see.Especially as media will possibly change to a decent degree.

You can't even get the % drop correct for the AFL ,as shown by colly. Yeah LOL.
If you are going to cite % drops ,please cut the fudging.

Sheesh.Backflipping that's coming from the well blackened kettle.You have backflipped for a start on the 2008 GFC comparison when you initially poo pooed the economic effects this year was worse than then.The silence now from you is deafening.
You spent week after week bagging Greenberg,your efforts well known here, yet when he was flicked you thought the code did the wrong thing.If he was as bad as you kept reminding us, then he should have been given the boot.

When it comes to confusion Olympic class mate, one minute this guy Vlad is terrible ( in the job for a few months),the next breath you state ,wait till such and such and let's see the result.

I repeat one more time for the dummies, the NRL under Vlad and the Apollo team saved the code before the code you publicly grovel at ,got off their backsides.You can't accept the fact, because it would be an admission the guy you despise ,did some good.And the NRL had a hell of a harder job with the Storm and a team from NZ(which the AFL didn't have) to ensure they were in a bubble to ensure the code survived financially.
Even AFL types are now saying they did a decent job of it, but you can't .The AFL types on the Offsider's .
Who dares wins.
I'll put my consistency whilst people may not agree with it ,up against your whining inconsistency any day.I'll also put my criticisms of the work of NRL admins ,up against your actual hate of individuals.
Like the ABC blaming Vlad for old horses going into abattoirs in Qld, when in fact he was in charge of NSW and these horses came from farms.Hatred is reserved for lowlifes in society.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

So AwFuL is now getting $371,950,000 a season?

PVL did a good job getting an extention with Foxtel. That's where the bulk of our money comes from. I'd like to see Ch10 put in a good bid. They don't want RU, at least not Super Rugby and put in a shir bid for Wallabies Tests. If they got it they would freshen the game up with new commentators. I can picture Ch10 wanting a Saturday night game, unlike Ch9.

 

[Chief_Chujo]

A) we dont know it’s $200mill
B) we don't know whats included in the deal

if it really is $200mill, which would be a big increase on the last deal which sounds pretty unrealistic based on what taipan keeps telling us, then it’s great. If it’s $1bill over 7 years and includes Saturday night and simucast and exclusive streaming it’s not a great deal. We just don’t know yet.

Its been reported numerous times as a $1bil extension, $200mil a year. It's safe to assume its a similar deal as well. Otherwise they would be crowing about securing Origin and the GF. Also you have to factor in the money Fox have had to pay Nein for buying a game back and simulcast before you call it a 'big increase' on the current deal.

I'm not sure why you think $200mil pa for simulcast and exclusive streaming is a bad deal anyway. Unless you think the deal is over 7yrs and V'Landys handed over all those rights for less than $150mil pa. But you'd have to have an agenda to believe that.

Lets see if the AFL can put together a package for Fox that can reach $200mil. Fox have been clear they are not a fan of the current 7 deal with its targeted FTA games. They certainly won't be getting a bonus $300mil from Rupert throwing a tantrum like last time either.

 

[Perth Red]

Your fantasizing again Perth red. You haven't clue about the media deals.
Points from a AFR story-


The AFL has agreed to a roughly 13 per cent discount of its rights fee of $415 million per season under the current agreement which was set to end at the end of the 2022. That means the sport will take just under a $54 million per year discount on its broadcast rights fees or a little over $160 million until the end of 2022.



https://www.afr.com/companies/media...tel-lock-in-revised-afl-deals-20200611-p551t7
Seven and Foxtel lock in revised AFL deals

Max MasonMedia and marketing editor
Jun 11, 2020 – 8.05pm

Seven West Media and Foxtel have sealed revised broadcast agreements for the AFL, reducing the value of the current deal by nearly $54 million per season to the end of 2022, less than a hour before the return of Aussie rules with Collingwood v Richmond.

It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on AFL rights fees over the next three years, while Foxtel will save around $90 million. Seven has also secured a two-year extension, foreshadowed by The Australian Financial Review in February, under improved terms.

The AFL has agreed to a roughly 13 per cent discount of its rights fee of $415 million per season under the current agreement which was set to end at the end of the 2022. That means the sport will take just under a $54 million per year discount on its broadcast rights fees or a little over $160 million until the end of 2022.

The remainder of the current free-to-air deal plus a two year extension with Seven is worth around $730 million to the AFL out until the end of 2024 season. Foxtel has not signed an extension at this stage after signing a five-year extension with the NRL two weeks ago.
https://www.afr.com/companies/media...tel-lock-in-revised-afl-deals-20200611-p551t7

"It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on AFL rights fees over the next three years " That's $23.3 million per year Seven is saving on their current deal.
The two year extension properly wont matter as Seven is close to bankruptcy by 2022, as the clock tick's on 500 million dollarr debt. With another loss (3 years ) running my prediction is lickley to come true."

Afl ceo has confirmed seven will pay an avg of $146mill a year for the next 5 years.

AFL chief Gillon McLachlan said the revised five-year deal with Seven for 2020-2024 was for $730 million or an average of $146 million per year for free to air rights.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/447194/afl-locks-in-new-broadcast-rights-deal-with-seven

the original 2018 deal,was $150mill a year avg for 6 Years
https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/afl-looks-to-extend-seven-network-broadcast-deal/

ergo an approx 2.5% reduction on previous deal

 

[Perth Red]

Its been reported numerous times as a $1bil extension, $200mil a year. It's safe to assume its a similar deal as well. Otherwise they would be crowing about securing Origin and the GF. Also you have to factor in the money Fox have had to pay Nein for buying a game back and simulcast before you call it a 'big increase' on the current deal.

I'm not sure why you think $200mil pa for simulcast and exclusive streaming is a bad deal anyway. Unless you think the deal is over 7yrs and V'Landys handed over all those rights for less than $150mil pa. But you'd have to have an agenda to believe that.

Lets see if the AFL can put together a package for Fox that can reach $200mil. Fox have been clear they are not a fan of the current 7 deal with its targeted FTA games. They certainly won't be getting a bonus $300mil from Rupert throwing a tantrum like last time either.

not officially it hasn’t. When fox or nrl confirm what the deal is then we will know. We don’t know if it’s a $1bill, we don’t know if that rumoured amount is for 5 years or 7 years, we don’t know if it includes all the things that got us a record fta deal last time. We dont know if it’s exclusive streaming or not. That’s a lot of unknowns to be saying if it’s good or not.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

AwFuL is not exactly truthful when it comes to reporting numbers. I wouldn't trust anything those charlatans say.

 

[colly]

Afl ceo has confirmed seven will pay an avg of $147mill a year for the next 5 years.

AFL chief Gillon McLachlan said the revised five-year deal with Seven for 2020-2024 was for $730 million or an average of $146 million per year for free to air rights.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/447194/afl-locks-in-new-broadcast-rights-deal-with-seven

the original 2018 deal,was $150mill a year avg for 6 Years
https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/afl-looks-to-extend-seven-network-broadcast-deal/

ergo an approx 2.5% reduction on previous deal

As i said you have no idea on the AL TV deals. Your own source 'ausleisure' says the current deal 2017-2022 was for 840 million cash ( 60m contra ) over SIX years which works out as 140 million P/a cash.
(840m / divided by 6 years )
So you should say they got a 6 million dollar yearly increase (in thier current contract) from Channel Seven. Yeah sure. Seven goes into meeting wanting to decrease the 2017-2022 contract due to worldwide Corona Virus and negotiate a increase on THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT. Ha Ha. No such thing happened. This year as part of the 2017-2022 was negotiated down by 23 m this year and 70m over three years. See below. Note also it is in the 3/4th year of a six year contract.
Gillon McLachlan cant count UNLIKE our Accountant NRL Chairman V Landy who can count and has qualifications to prove it.

It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on AFL rights fees over the next three years, while Foxtel will save around $90 million. Seven has also secured a two-year extension, foreshadowed by The Australian Financial Review in February, under improved terms.

https://www.afr.com/companies/media...tel-lock-in-revised-afl-deals-20200611-p551t7
Fell free to update me how their getting MORE cash than the original contract in these covid 19 times.
No mention of contra either- their always padding their. So Seven negotiated a 70m ( 23.3m pa times three) decrease over the three remaining years of the 2017 -2022 contract (140m contract amount) minus 23 m p/a reduction ( Corona virus reduction) gets you 117m per year until the end of the contract in 2022 OR extension. What happens in their extension I DON'T CARE but make sure don't.rely on Gillion or the AFL telling to the truth as I have shown you above.
Also the 2.5 billion ( 417m pa amount ) cash headline amount is fiction also. Seven contra 60m or 10 p/a over six years and Foxtel must have been 140m ( 23.3 m p/a ) non cash contra to get to the 200m contra amount proved to be the case before.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

As i said you have no idea on the AL TV deals. Your own source 'ausleisure' says the current deal 2017-2022 was for 840 million cash ( 60m contra ) over SIX years which works out as 140 million P/a cash.
(840m / divided by 6 years )
So you should say they got a 6 million dollar yearly increase (in thier current contract) from Channel Seven. Yeah sure. Seven goes into meeting wanting to decrease the 2017-2022 contract due to worldwide Corona Virus and negotiate a increase on THEIR CURRENT CONTRACT. Ha Ha. No such thing happened. This year as part of the 2017-2022 was negotiated down by 23 m this year and 70m over three years. See below. Note also it is in the 3/4th year of a six year contract.
Gillon McLachlan cant count UNLIKE our Accountant NRL Chairman V Landy who can count and has qualifications to prove it.

It's believed Seven will save around $70 million on AFL rights fees over the next three years, while Foxtel will save around $90 million. Seven has also secured a two-year extension, foreshadowed by The Australian Financial Review in February, under improved terms.

https://www.afr.com/companies/media...tel-lock-in-revised-afl-deals-20200611-p551t7
Fell free to update me how their getting MORE cash than the original contract in these covid 19 times.
No mention of contra either- their always padding their. So Seven negotiated a 70m ( 23.3m pa times three) decrease over the three remaining years of the 2017 -2022 contract (140m contract amount) minus 23 m p/a reduction ( Corona virus reduction) gets you 117m per year until the end of the contract in 2022 OR extension. What happens in their extension I DON'T CARE but make sure don't.rely on Gillion or the AFL telling to the truth as I have shown you above.
Also the 2.5 billion ( 417m pa amount ) cash headline amount is fiction also. Seven contra 60m or 10 p/a over six years and Foxtel must have been 140m ( 23.3 m p/a ) non cash contra to get to the 200m contra amount proved to be the case before.

Great post.

 

[Diesel]

Afl ceo has confirmed seven will pay an avg of $147mill a year for the next 5 years.

AFL chief Gillon McLachlan said the revised five-year deal with Seven for 2020-2024 was for $730 million or an average of $146 million per year for free to air rights.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/447194/afl-locks-in-new-broadcast-rights-deal-with-seven

the original 2018 deal,was $150mill a year avg for 6 Years
https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/afl-looks-to-extend-seven-network-broadcast-deal/

ergo an approx 2.5% reduction on previous deal

What percentage is contra, because that figure will be loaded with it