2023-2028 next tv deal discussion

[tri_colours]

Why do you say that? He had already delivered the biggest, by a long long way, FTA deal ever seen. Fox would have had no choice but to pay, they need NRL to survive. Would they have paid more than the $875mill they did if he had negotiated with them first? Who knows. To just keep the NRL moving away from News ltd influence I'd have been happy with a bit less money if it meant less News Ltd control of the game. news had their noses put out because finally someone had come along and not made everything about them. The fact they were so upset at having to pay ch9 for saturday and simucast should tell you what they were hoping to get for their money and negitiating with NRl would have likely been cheaper than paying Ch9.

Anyway all hypotheticals as Smith wasnt given the chance to bring home the bacon, but he will always be credited for getting the best FTA deal in NRL history, and potentially for many years to come.

If Fox were restricted to just four games , the 4 in the worst time slots then we would'nt have got anything like we did. - not even close.

Who knows? What do you think Fox would pay if they were restricted to the worst half ? I think half as much wouldn't be too far out.

Smiths deffiant last stand would of cost us about $400m unless Fox just decided to walk away alltogether.- Lot of similaties to Custers last stand.

 

[Perth Red]

If Fox were restricted to just four games , the 4 in the worst time slots then we would'nt have got anything like we did. - not even close.

Who knows? What do you think Fox would pay if they were restricted to the worst half ? I think half as much wouldn't be too far out.

Smiths deffiant last stand would of cost us about $400m unless Fox just decided to walk away alltogether.- Lot of similaties to Custers last stand.

They they were always going to get all 8 games regardless of how Many fta ended up with, that’s why nine paid big bucks so they could sell them the simucast rights. The only thing in the air was if fta kept the Saturday game or not. End of day fox NEED the nrl, they aren’t going to offer peanuts and risk the relationship disappearing, that would be suicide for them. They CANT just walk away is the stark reality for them. you honestly think fox would only offer $475mill for 4 exclusive games when fta had already paid $925mill for 4 and fox had paid afl around $1billion for pretty much the same deal as nrl was offering?? Lol.

I’m very much looking Forward to the day someone else gets the streaming rights in years to come and fox falls on its arse in australia because of it.

 

[tri_colours]

Or maybe Gyngell got in quick locking in the rights for channel 9 in his final act. Taking advantage of Smiths inexperience in this area - either way Smith was shown the door and the contract was renegotiated!

And yes. they paid about 950m for 8 games with half of them in much better timeslots. Sat 3''&5'0, Sun 2'0, and Fri at the same time as the news - most of those are dead zones with limited interest, I would be surprised if they would pay even $475m

Fox are'nt locked in to buying the NRL . Fox needed it? Thats a good saying but how do you think the NRL would get on without Fox? Fox could save there $Billion dollars and still make a handy profit showing AFL & the other sports.

A better time to stand up to Fox would be when there is a viable alternative.

 

[Perth Red]

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Or maybe Gyngell got in quick locking in the rights for channel 9 in his final act. Taking advantage of Smiths inexperience in this area - either way Smith was shown the door and the contract was renegotiated!

And yes. they paid about 950m for 8 games with half of them in much better timeslots. Sat 3''&5'0, Sun 2'0, and Fri at the same time as the news - most of those are dead zones with limited interest, I would be surprised if they would pay even $475m

Fox are'nt locked in to buying the NRL . Fox needed it? Thats a good saying but how do you think the NRL would get on without Fox? Fox could save there $Billion dollars and still make a handy profit showing AFL & the other sports.

A better time to stand up to Fox would be when there is a viable alternative.

contract wasn’t renegotiated.
Nrl is by far kayo/fox biggest audience, yeh of course they don’t need it lol
smiths Inexperience? Nrl had a media contract consultancy firm leading the discussions, what smith did do was sign the biggest fta deal ever seen in Australian sport. Not bad going for someone with no experience lol.
yes smith was the thrown one the sacrificial pyre, nrl is weak as pss. Hence why we keep getting shafted in tv deals.
you haven’t yet answered my point that what smith sold Ch9 was pretty much the same what afl had sold ch7, don’t recall a dummy spit by fox over that, in fact quite the opposite.

 

[tri_colours]

If the contract wasn't renegotiated then how did we get to the 2018 Kick off with Channel 9 having just 3 matches no exclusive rights for the finals , Originally paying C9 185m a year but by 2018 just 1m a year. 2016 - 5 matches a week, 2017 no Monday night.

What Smith done was jumped the gun - went off to early.

Played like a fiddle by Gyngell. And putting an end to any C 10/fox threat.

little experiece in this area is what i said -and the proofs in the results. You could always ask Benji Barba.

 

[Perth Red]

If the contract wasn't renegotiated then how did we get to the 2018 Kick off with Channel 9 having just 3 matches no exclusive rights for the finals , Originally paying C9 185m a year but by 2018 just 1m a year. 2016 - 5 matches a week, 2017 no Monday night.

What Smith done was jumped the gun - went off to early.

Played like a fiddle by Gyngell. And putting an end to any C 10/fox threat.

little experiece in this area is what i said -and the proofs in the results. You could always ask Benji Barba.

Because the contract signed with Ch9 game them the rights to sell the saturday game if they wanted to. Part fo why they paid so much. What smith did was get the biggest fta deal ever seen in australia, I struggle to see why you can’t acknowledge that lol.
he never sold anyth8ng more than ch7 has been getting from afl yet news ltd spat the dummy with us, go figure.
Did fox like it? no. Why? because for the first time since 1995 someone in charge of the nrl decided they weren’t the most important thing to the game. Shame our weak kneed commision didn’t have the balls to let Smith see it through. Then We could have judged him on what happened, not what you think might have happened.
$925MILLION for free to air. Never been done before or since.

 

[baselinepanther]

i see its been reported again this morning that the NRL & Ch 9 are still about 15 million per season apart from agreeing to terms for the next fta deal ..
I hope the NRL holds firm , Ch 9 are banking on the NRL having nowhere to go

this notion that Ch 7 can't telecast our game because of the AFL is a fairfax /ch 9 narrative
the afl is already on secondary channels in NSW & QLD on 7 & its the same for NRL on 9 in the afl states including finals except when expansion sides are playing.
so not a huge amount of difference.

& seriously stuff channel 9
Sell channel 7 the state of origin for 40 million a year & ch 10 3 FTA games for 80 million a year simulcast with foxtel.
9 can go to hell...

 

[Colk]

Yep Channel 9 deserve to lose the rights for their constant negativity and belittling of the game over the past 10 to 15 years. If they’re not going to promote the game properly, then they need to live without it so they can reflect on the asset that they had and lost.

Also agree on your Channel 7 analogy and I’ll extend it further. Nine has pretty much promoted the AFL as much as they have Rugby League even though they haven’t had the AFL rights for how long? (If somebody) could tell me that would be good Moving over to Channel 7 wouldn’t in effect change much; in fact they may promote it more than Channel 9 now because it is a new asset and they may want both assets to have a national reach to bury Channel Nine

 

[Perth Red]

Seemed like ch7 dont want the whole lot sadly, just origin and one or two games a week. If 9 dont want to pay what nrl think it’s worth then split the rights. 9 can have 3 nrl games for $450mill and 7 can have origin and internationals for $150mill. I’d still like to hear some confirmation that fox is paying $1.3billion!!

 

[Perth Red]

sorry have deleted as clearly a very old story that for some reason popped up in fox news in october lol.

 

[Perth Red]

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[Colk]

Absolutely disgusting that News Limited are part of the partnership committee.

 

[Colk]

the value of our naming rights continues to fall well behind afl. Part of not having a national footprint maybe?

That and the influence of News Limited in relation to the Telstra deal

 

[Perth Red]

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[Perth Red]

Absolutely disgusting that News Limited are part of the partnership committee.

That’s article was from years ago lol, no idea why it would pop up,on fox news dated October this year!

 

[Colk]

Oh I have heard. I also have heard that V’landys is the best administrator in the land by a distance...according to News Limited. As the old axiom, if it looks like s... and it smells like s... then more often than not it’s s...

 

[baselinepanther]

Seemed like ch7 dont want the whole lot sadly, just origin and one or two games a week. If 9 dont want to pay what nrl think it’s worth then split the rights. 9 can have 3 nrl games for $450mill and 7 can have origin and internationals for $150mill. I’d still like to hear some confirmation that fox is paying $1.3billion!!

confirmation from who ?
it was reported ad nauseum for the last media rights deal
that foxtel were paying 1.2 billion for 5 years
with the kiwis paying 100 mill to bring the total deal to 1.9 billion

now foxtels amount has been reduced -renegotiated from 245pa to 220 mill pa & the length of the deal increased to 2027

but
they have agreed to tip in 100 million for the new expansion franchise & we know the extra 12 games per year are going to foxtel for 25 million a season or 125 million extra.
so i make it 265 million a season from 2023 to 2027 or 1.325 bill

nothing surer thats what they're paying.

FTA 600 million
Foxtel 1.325 Bill
Kiwis 150 million

our new deal will be worth 2.075 Bill for the period 2023 to 2027 or 415 mill a year
a reasonable result all things considered

 

[Colk]

I’d suggest that you look over your maths because you are contradicting yourself.

Firstly did Foxtel tip in $100 million or $125 million? If it’s the former, then it would be $20 million not $25 million

Secondly how are you getting $1.325 billion. Are you looking at a five year period - if you are then you would be looking at 5 x $220 million which is $1.1 billion plus the $100/$125 million over the five years for the new side plus extra Broncos content which would mean $1.2 or $1.225 billion.

Then if you are basing the other deals on a five year period (I’m sure that I read the FTA is over six years not five years but let’s say it’s $600 million over 5 years or $120 m per year plus $30 per year for NZ then the total should be $1.95 billion or $1.975 billion ($390 million or $395 million)

That’s not a bad deal for sure. You are factoring added content so people shouldn’t be genuflecting at some shrine of V’landys either and swallow News Ltd spin

 

[baselinepanther]

I’d suggest that you look over your maths because you are contradicting yourself.

Firstly did Foxtel tip in $100 million or $125 million? If it’s the former, then it would be $20 million not $25 million

Secondly how are you getting $1.325 billion. Are you looking at a five year period - if you are then you would be looking at 5 x $220 million which is $1.1 billion plus the $100/$125 million over the five years for the new side plus extra Broncos content which would mean $1.2 or $1.225 billion.

Then if you are basing the other deals on a five year period (I’m sure that I read the FTA is over six years not five years but let’s say it’s $600 million over 5 years or $120 m per year plus $30 per year for NZ then the total should be $1.95 billion or $1.975 billion ($390 million or $395 million)

That’s not a bad deal for sure. You are factoring added content so people shouldn’t be genuflecting at some shrine of V’landys either and swallow News Ltd spin

ummmm

ill type slow
the original deal was 245 million per season
reduced to 220 million re covid

present deal til the end of 2027
220 million per season

new deal as a result of expansion
25 million extra per season from foxtel for the extra 12 games they will get
we're at 245 million
the 100 million gift to help set up the dolphins , broken down over 5 years brings it to 265 million per season
X 5
1.325 Billion


the FTA deal is for 5 years not 6, nowhere .. not anywhere has 6 years been mentioned
it'll be 600 mill
& the kiwis are paying 150 million for 5 years

is there anything else i can help you with hahaha

 

[Colk]

ummmm

ill type slow
the original deal was 245 million per season
reduced to 220 million re covid

present deal til the end of 2027
220 million per season

new deal as a result of expansion
25 million extra per season from foxtel for the extra 12 games they will get
we're at 245 million
the 100 million gift to help set up the dolphins , broken down over 5 years brings it to 265 million per season
X 5
1.325 Billion


the FTA deal is for 5 years not 6, nowhere .. not anywhere has 6 years been mentioned
it'll be 600 mill
& the kiwis are paying 150 million for 5 years

is there anything else i can help you with hahaha

First of all don’t be supercilious (feel free to look that word up). See it’s not pleasant to be talked down to.

Secondly learn how to write because your last post was indecipherable